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Posted by rjlockhart on February 13, 2007, at 23:39:34
I take Temazepam 30mg at night.
I have read on halcion and heard many sarcastic jokes, like "oh, man i would take a halcion" which really wouldnt be good because i have read that it causes anger and has a VERY short half life.
Temazpeam is pretty stable for me, its calming, and mellowly well i take 30mg with 1mg of Xanax.
Someone tell me about Halcion.
I heard president Bush ('89) took it for jetjag and thew up in some primeministers lap.
MMmm not a very good rep.
Rj
Posted by halcyondaze on February 14, 2007, at 5:59:04
In reply to Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion), posted by rjlockhart on February 13, 2007, at 23:39:34
I love Halcion. I have had no bad side effects from it. I take it, and am asleep 1 hour later. Restoril never helped me fall asleep.
I have no rebound anxiety in the a.m., no "psychotic thoughts," no "violent anger" impulses.
I have found the perfect sleep aid, for once.
[I take 0.5 mg, for the record]
Posted by Phillipa on February 14, 2007, at 11:49:28
In reply to Re: Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion), posted by halcyondaze on February 14, 2007, at 5:59:04
Didn't know they still used halcion. Love Phillipa
Posted by randermin on February 16, 2007, at 10:04:34
In reply to Re: Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion) » halcyondaze, posted by Phillipa on February 14, 2007, at 11:49:28
is temazepam's restoritive sleep hype a myth?
Posted by psychobot5000 on February 16, 2007, at 11:30:22
In reply to Re: Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion), posted by randermin on February 16, 2007, at 10:04:34
> is temazepam's restoritive sleep hype a myth?
I think so, yes. Just like ambien and Lunesta's, more or less. I read a study abstract comparing temazepam and Lunesta's sleep patterns, and they basically said that both disrupted deep sleep patterns, but temazepam moreso.
Still, maybe it disrupts sleep less than other benzos.
Posted by Ctemene on February 16, 2007, at 15:40:45
In reply to Re: Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion), posted by halcyondaze on February 14, 2007, at 5:59:04
I agree. Halcion is one of the very best sleep meds I have taken. I can easily get to sleep with Halcion (.5mg) and I wake up at an early but reasonable time the next morning and never feel hung over. In fact, I sometimes use it even in the daytime. I dissolve a .25mg tablet in 4 oz of water and sip it when I feel I am becoming anxious.
> I love Halcion. I have had no bad side effects from it. I take it, and am asleep 1 hour later. Restoril never helped me fall asleep.
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> I have no rebound anxiety in the a.m., no "psychotic thoughts," no "violent anger" impulses.
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> I have found the perfect sleep aid, for once.
>
> [I take 0.5 mg, for the record]
Posted by notfred on February 16, 2007, at 17:54:42
In reply to Re: Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion), posted by psychobot5000 on February 16, 2007, at 11:30:22
"I think so, yes. Just like ambien and Lunesta's, more or less. I read a study abstract comparing temazepam and Lunesta's sleep patterns, and they basically said that both disrupted deep sleep patterns, but temazepam moreso."
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Intresting, I posted some studies a while back that indicated Lunesta did not change time spent the stages 3 & 4.
Posted by psychobot5000 on February 20, 2007, at 14:31:37
In reply to Re: Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion), posted by notfred on February 16, 2007, at 17:54:42
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> Intresting, I posted some studies a while back that indicated Lunesta did not change time spent the stages 3 & 4.The studies I read were meant to check the veracity of those claims--which come, I believe, from drug company-funded studies. I remember specifically that, in this particular study, it was not all bad--Lunesta increased stage 4 sleep in the second 150 minute segment of sleep, but almost completely removed stage 3 sleep during the first 150 minutes.
Ambien and temazepam are also claimed to prevent sleep disruption, but again, according to what I've read, these claims to not seem to be reproduced by independent studies. That doesn't seem to prevent the marketers from continuing to claim this is the case, though. I've been disappointed with Lunesta, myself. It knocks me out, but doesn't seem to provide very restful sleep.
Posted by notfred on February 22, 2007, at 8:36:52
In reply to Re: Lunesta and sleep patterns » notfred, posted by psychobot5000 on February 20, 2007, at 14:31:37
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"The studies I read were meant to check the veracity of those claims--which come, I believe, from drug company-funded studies. I remember specifically that, in this particular study, it was not all bad--Lunesta increased stage 4 sleep in the second 150 minute segment of sleep, but almost completely removed stage 3 sleep during the first 150 minutes."
I will take it, it is far more sleep than I would get off meds. people in their 40-50's tend to have very little stage 4 sleep as part of the aging process.
"Ambien and temazepam are also claimed to prevent sleep disruption, but again, according to what I've read, these claims to not seem to be reproduced by independent studies. That doesn't seem to prevent the marketers from continuing to claim this is the case, though."Ambien is only active for a few hours so most of sleep is not under its effects. I have not doubt
benzos effect stages.
"I've been disappointed with Lunesta, myself. It knocks me out, but doesn't seem to provide very restful sleep. "6mgs works a treat for me. I have been on it over a year and have not hit tolerance issues.
Posted by psychobot5000 on February 23, 2007, at 18:49:04
In reply to Re: Lunesta and sleep patterns, posted by notfred on February 22, 2007, at 8:36:52
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> I will take it, it is far more sleep than I would get off meds. people in their 40-50's tend to have very little stage 4 sleep as part of the aging process.
>No one's trying to tell you what to take--glad it works for you. I'd take it too, if it didn't mess with my emotions!
Posted by Diego Abreu on September 10, 2010, at 3:36:56
In reply to Re: Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion), posted by notfred on February 16, 2007, at 17:54:42
I take a lot of benzos, i have epilepsy, i take clonazepam regulary but i have halcion as a back up if i have a seizure about to start, to try and stop it in its tracks, sometimes during a seizure, a long one i either use diazepam (diazestat) which you insert rectaly or midazpolam injected. Ive also had tempazepam, lorazepam and xanax.
temazepam never did anything for me, halcion is great works very quick also good is lorazepam (but your body gets used to it very quick).
I like halcion, helps me in so many ways, but it has had some weird effects, wears off quick and causes palputations and anger, that i dont get with the others.
so best just to take it at night before bed
Posted by SLS on September 10, 2010, at 4:55:17
In reply to Re: Temazpem (Restoril) V.S Trizolam (Halcion), posted by Diego Abreu on September 10, 2010, at 3:36:56
Hi.
If Halcion (or perhaps Ambien) is the only drug that work for you to get to sleep, you might consider combining it with Ativan or Restoril. The short-acting Halcion will be strong enough to get you to sleep and the longer-acting Ativan or Restoril will keep you asleep and possibly prevent the rebound behavioral effects when the Halcion wears off.
- Scott
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