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Posted by Jeroen on August 13, 2010, at 8:50:02
can someone explains this to me please????????????
im in a ward, this is the second patient, a friend of me gets HALDOL Injection, but tells me he wont get better with so called anti psychotics, then another woman in my group said, i hope i am dead soon
this is just horrible i am not seeing any improvement with myself nor i'm about to try LITHIUM, maybe i won't get it, maybe it won't work?????
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN ME?????????????????????
Posted by Phillipa on August 13, 2010, at 10:37:06
In reply to can someone explains this to me please????????????, posted by Jeroen on August 13, 2010, at 8:50:02
Jeroen I feel for you. Sounds like some really psychotic people in your ward. Are they afraid of meds? I thought your seroquel and abilify were working for you? Concentrate on you and not them. Love Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on August 13, 2010, at 10:56:28
In reply to Re: can someone explains this to me please???????????? » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on August 13, 2010, at 10:37:06
they are working
but 1. my heart is broken (i miss an old friend)
she just dropped our friendship
Posted by bleauberry on August 13, 2010, at 18:34:38
In reply to can someone explains this to me please????????????, posted by Jeroen on August 13, 2010, at 8:50:02
i agree with your friend....he won't get better on antipsychotics and neither will you. Your history has already proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Lithium makes sense, sort of. But if it isn't helping after 3 or 4 weeks, then you know it is not the one.
TCAs, antibiotics, antivirals, DMSA, LDN....I'm no doc but I've been following you for a long time. I would place money that within this group of choices you would find major improvement. I think an up-to-date doctor who knows things and/or an Infectious Disease Specialist would do more good for you than a Psychiatrist. Or at the very least, if your care is confined to just a Psychiatrist, it should be one willing to think outside the box and try different stuff. I mean, when someone fails all the antipsychotics, gets worse on mood stabilizers, the doctor himself displays more insanity than the patient by insisting to stay on that course of treatment. Just my opinion.
Remember that antiviral dopamine agonist you tried a long time ago? You got some real important clues from that, which are being ignored as if they didn't mean anything. They meant a lot.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on August 13, 2010, at 19:11:02
In reply to Re: can someone explains this to me please????????????, posted by bleauberry on August 13, 2010, at 18:34:38
>antibiotics....
>Infectious Disease Specialist would do more good for you than a Psychiatrist....Blueberry,
I have noticed that you seem to be recommending antibiotic treatment to quite a few people on psycho-babble. Are you aware of any evidence (eg. from clinical trials) which suggests that patients with treatment-resistant psychiatric illness should be treatment with antibiotics?
Antibiotics can cause unpleasant side effects. Occasionally, they can cause serious adverse reactions, especially if treatment is prolonged. Perhaps most importantly, the widespread use of these drugs is contributing to the problem of bacterial resistance. I am not sure that it is a good idea to recommend antibiotic treatment without a clear justification.
There are a wide variety of different antibiotics on the market. Which antibiotics in particular are you advocating?
>antivirals
Which antivirals?
Commonly used antivirals such as acyclovir have a narrow spectrum of activity. Acyclovir is predominantly active against herpes virus.
Amantadine appears to be active against some strains of influenza virus and herpes virus. Most viruses are not inhibited. Amantadine causes dose-dependent neuropsychiatric adverse reactions.
Take care,
Ed
Posted by Phillipa on August 13, 2010, at 19:31:17
In reply to they are working, posted by Jeroen on August 13, 2010, at 10:56:28
Jeroen really your meds are working for you???? That's fantastic. Is this the girlfriend that is making you so sad and not feel well? Love Phillipa
Posted by morgan miller on August 13, 2010, at 20:14:11
In reply to Re: can someone explains this to me please????????????, posted by bleauberry on August 13, 2010, at 18:34:38
>Lithium makes sense, sort of. But if it isn't helping after 3 or 4 weeks, then you know it is not the one.
I've been taking lithium for several months now. I just recently decided to double the dose from 150 mg twice a day to 300 mg twice a day. I really think I am starting to notice an improvement with the higher dose. So, I would not necessarily say that you know lithium is the not the right drug just because you are not benefiting from it much after 3 or 4 weeks. One, I think our brains can go through some adjustment and healing on lithium, and this may take some time. Two, it may take much longer than 3 or 4 weeks to figure out where your sweet spot is with lithium, if you have one.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on August 13, 2010, at 22:21:09
In reply to Re: can someone explains this to me please????????????, posted by morgan miller on August 13, 2010, at 20:14:11
>I would not necessarily say that you know lithium is the not the right drug just because you are not benefiting from it much after 3 or 4 weeks.
They do say that the full stabilising effect of lithium only occurs after several months.
Posted by Jeroen on August 14, 2010, at 3:09:29
In reply to Re: can someone explains this to me please???????????? » morgan miller, posted by ed_uk2010 on August 13, 2010, at 22:21:09
hey friend,
yes i do know my short amantadine trial is a clue, and my short remission of seroquel (2 months too)
i think too my illness is caused by a virus, and i still might be infected, it just doesnt show up on those primitive scans...
the almost relief from depression from my short trial of amantadine
maybe i had low dopamine levels, the amantadine raised them a bit, and i felt better
god only knows i think...
Posted by ed_uk2010 on August 14, 2010, at 9:20:20
In reply to to bleauberry, posted by Jeroen on August 14, 2010, at 3:09:29
>maybe i had low dopamine levels, the amantadine raised them a bit, and i felt better
Possibly. Amantadine's NMDA antagonist properties may have been what caused the improvement.
Posted by Jeroen on August 14, 2010, at 10:36:56
In reply to Re: to bleauberry, posted by ed_uk2010 on August 14, 2010, at 9:20:20
then a NMDA Receptor modulate anti psychotic is what i need
Posted by Phillipa on August 14, 2010, at 19:39:38
In reply to NMDA Receptor modulate anti psychotic is what i ne, posted by Jeroen on August 14, 2010, at 10:36:56
Jeroen I'm confused as thought the meds you are now on were working and you were asking if lithium might help? Phillipa
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