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Posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 6:49:43
General public without licensing can access this information if they care to. Just wanted to clear that myth up.
Posted by linkadge on August 3, 2010, at 9:27:18
In reply to Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 6:49:43
Are you refering to the information on drug websites which requires you to declare that you are a "health care professional"?
If so, I just click yes anyway. WFT does it matter? Why should a doctor ever have access to information that is restricted to patients? This is B.S. We are the ones ingesting the drugs.
Its just like medical journals requiring people to pay $35+ just to read a medical abstract. Its a great way to control information.
Posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 9:42:54
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by linkadge on August 3, 2010, at 9:27:18
I am also referring to sites with case studies and clinical study results such as Medscape and its subcategories. I have seen posted here one must register with a licensing number. Simply not true. That is true only if edu. time is wanted to be tracked. Having to have some type of license is not required to access the information.
I also get irritated at medical journal sites that charge per article look or want an expensive subscription paid.
Posted by violette on August 3, 2010, at 10:00:54
In reply to Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 6:49:43
Do you have a good link or particular journal that allows access w/o the license no. ?
I registered for BMJ journal access-which allows access to limited articles. I've tried other journals w/o sucess.
thanks
Posted by Phillipa on August 3, 2010, at 10:34:47
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals » 8675309, posted by violette on August 3, 2010, at 10:00:54
I register with license for medscape as I get CME's for licensing. Kindda silly seeing I can't go back to school to reactivate my inactive liense. I find it scary that pharmacists and doctor use these also for CME's as my internist is the one who told me about it. Phillipa
Posted by violette on August 3, 2010, at 10:47:52
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by Phillipa on August 3, 2010, at 10:34:47
What are CME's?
Posted by linkadge on August 3, 2010, at 12:50:35
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals » Phillipa, posted by violette on August 3, 2010, at 10:47:52
I just think it defeats the purpose to have acess fees for abstracts, articles etc. Sure, I know, people want to get paid for research, and many doctors don't like patients going online and doing their own research. But, there is a lot of useful information for patients that is prohibitive by cost.
One publishes it to the internet so that the results are well known. There are a lot of 'amateur scientists' out there that could benefit.
Posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 12:51:51
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by Phillipa on August 3, 2010, at 10:34:47
What do you think is scary about Medscape's offerings? It's a quick easy way to get small amounts of CEU's. A larger number of hours usually requires a class or conference. Most don't use it as the whole of obtaining CEU's anyway.
Posted by 10derHeart on August 3, 2010, at 13:06:37
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals » Phillipa, posted by violette on August 3, 2010, at 10:47:52
CME = continuing medical education
CEU = continuing education units
CLE = continuing legal education
Professionals with licenses and some paraprofessionals with (or without) certifications are required to obtain a certain amount of educational credits to keep their credentials current. I was a paralegal for many years and had to do units of CLE regularly.
Hope that helps.
Posted by violette on August 3, 2010, at 13:30:46
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals » violette, posted by 10derHeart on August 3, 2010, at 13:06:37
Posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 13:43:23
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by linkadge on August 3, 2010, at 12:50:35
I agree.
I did want to make the point clear about general public access in particular to Medscape and its subcategories.
Jounrnals on line and paper versions require a subscription but not any licensing requirements for access. That has been my experience. As said, the subscriptions are high $
Posted by Phillipa on August 3, 2010, at 20:52:45
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals » linkadge, posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 13:43:23
Thanks l0der for explaining to Violette what the CEU's are as wasn't home. Just now on computer. Anyway to add the scarey thing about Medscape CEU's is for me they are very easy. I have a stack of run off from printer passing CEU certificates. And to access my site you need the password as all my licensing info and CEU's to date earned are listed there. Phillipa safety for the user.
Posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 21:09:20
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by Phillipa on August 3, 2010, at 20:52:45
Easy does not imply good information can't be gotten and helpful. I have seen very accurate and useful applicable information on Medscape. To repeat, tracking CEU count is a reason for licensing information disclosure. Any statement licensing disclosure is a requirement for receiving the information is incorrect. If a HC worker is active in a clinical or therapeutic setting, article reviews and case study reviews are a small part of ongoing education to be informed.
Posted by Phillipa on August 3, 2010, at 21:49:51
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals » Phillipa, posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 21:09:20
I couldn't agree more on the content of the aforementioned articles. And certainly it's a small part as CPR for instance can't be certified via computer it's an inperson demonstration. Hospital policies or the speciality are uniquely important. Hence in my case was Nationally Certified in Psych Nursing. But need supervision over five years to renew so lost that. I'm sure it could be reeaarned but not working makes it a bit hard. I can reactivate my license at any time. As long as do clinicals or supervision for a month on med/surg and pscy to work part time. Just doesn't make sense to me. My back keeps me from the lifting requirement of 50 lbs for example. Could work in a doc office but the excitment and skill of managing an acutely ill patient are stimulating and gratifying to me. Phillipa
Posted by 8675309 on August 4, 2010, at 4:11:20
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals » Phillipa, posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 21:09:20
I have not looked closely into the sharing of articles from site to sites. It varies on original site policies. My thought is to stop the idea of insider information being presented as that and to inform access is available. I hope I see no further posting stating an article was taken from another site and posted here because the poster has a professional license to access the information. It is misleading. I have repeated that in various ways, I am running out of new options.
Posted by 8675309 on August 4, 2010, at 6:48:54
In reply to Re: Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by 8675309 on August 4, 2010, at 4:11:20
> I have not looked closely into the sharing of articles from site to sites.
To follow up on Medscapes particular policies per their website as it does relate to the subject (*) are my addition:
"Electronic Republishing or Reprinting: We do not allow our articles or materials to be reproduced in full on any website. (*)You may include a link to the article on your site(*), but may not reproduce the material in its entirety. This restriction also applies to reproductions on (*)bulletin boards (*), in emails, electronic newsletters, or any other mediums. The only exception applies to educational institutions and their online syllabi, or password-protected websites related to a specific instructor or course, or for internal training purposes."
Posted by 8675309 on August 5, 2010, at 19:45:26
In reply to Please note if referencing Medscape Material, posted by 8675309 on August 4, 2010, at 6:48:54
Going, Going, Gone
I hope good health comes to all
Posted by Phillipa on August 5, 2010, at 21:28:14
In reply to Please note if referencing Medscape Material, posted by 8675309 on August 4, 2010, at 6:48:54
I just posted two articles from medscape that say share by e-mail or to facebook or twitter. Phillipa
Posted by 8675309 on August 5, 2010, at 22:28:18
In reply to Re: Please note if referencing Medscape Material » 8675309, posted by Phillipa on August 5, 2010, at 21:28:14
Allow posting of LINKS going to articles on their site. This happens when articles are tweeted or facebooked or placed here even. Cutting and pasting an entire article is a violation of Medscape policy per ther own site.
Most users know posting links is different from cutting and pasting an entire article I would hope.
Grumble grumble bang arrrrrgh. Sound of hitting my head against a brick wall.
Posted by Phillipa on August 6, 2010, at 0:29:44
In reply to Medscape Policies, posted by 8675309 on August 5, 2010, at 22:28:18
And parts were deleted so not copied in all entirety so not breaking the rules. Phillipa. Not banging her head against any walls. Work is done on ebay so shower and bed.
Posted by 8675309 on August 6, 2010, at 6:17:31
In reply to Re: Medscape Policies » 8675309, posted by Phillipa on August 6, 2010, at 0:29:44
lol
Posted by 8675309 on August 6, 2010, at 8:25:44
In reply to Medscape Policies, posted by 8675309 on August 5, 2010, at 22:28:18
Wow editing lifted articles belonging to another site and researchers. Hmmm that is even worse. Hope there's permission by owners to do that.
Posted by 8675309 on August 7, 2010, at 18:18:26
In reply to Information designed for Health Professionals, posted by 8675309 on August 3, 2010, at 6:49:43
Oh man, I feel the need to clarify my points.
A) Access to articles of RESEARCH CONCLUSIONS specifically those on Medscape can be gotten without a professional license for sign up.
This point morphed to
B) The policy of Medscape as I read it states entire articles are not allowed for posting to other sites, the links to them are allowable.
I don't wish to discuss the above points again thank you. However, given new posts, I IN NO WAY was referring to personal medical records as in those covered by confidentiality procedures of health care workers or ANY personal information on any poster. TY
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