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Posted by maya3 on July 28, 2010, at 14:26:23
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » maya3, posted by Phillipa on July 27, 2010, at 20:06:00
Thank you Phillipa.
Posted by maya3 on July 28, 2010, at 14:28:51
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by morgan miller on July 28, 2010, at 10:37:58
Thank you, Morgan, for your advice and support.
Posted by maya3 on July 28, 2010, at 14:30:47
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by chujoe on July 27, 2010, at 20:56:52
> I'll look up a couple of studies in the morning that demonstrate therapy can be very helpful in all forms of psychosis; if I'm remembering correctly, the therapy is usually a combination of psychodynamic and behavioral approaches. In any case, I'm with the other folks here Maya, you can definitely benefit from therapy and the therapist who told you otherwise was either profoundly misinformed or irresponsible. And that's a fact.
Thanks for your message. I'm beginning to see that now :)
Posted by maya3 on July 28, 2010, at 15:31:57
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » maya3, posted by violette on July 28, 2010, at 11:20:32
Violette, thank you for your encouragement and support. You are a very sensitive, kind and empathetic person. I found the links you sent me very helpful.The problem with finding a T is that where I live (not in the U.S.), the records tend to follow you around, so it is not easy to prevent automatic conclusions based on other Ts' assumptions or experience. I have even considered using a fictitious name.
It is true that Ts' personal issues can affect their judgement and willingness to accept certain patients for treatment. It is possible that some have perceived my behavor to be characteristic of borderline personality disorder. That could explain why one particular T constantly made insensitive and undermining remarks using an angry tone of voice. He dismissed my uneasiness as "manipulation" and "emotional blackmail". I began to see myself as he portrayed me and this eventually lead me to see suicide as my only option.
I did not experience childhood traumas of any kind. There are, however, periods of time I have repressed. I remember myself thinking as a little kid about how glad I was about having almost completely succeeded in blocking out certain periods. A while later I noticed no longer having access to them. It is clear to me that my genetic sensitivity and weaknesses were responsible for my being overwhelmed by things people usually take for granted. However, I suspect that this may have resulted in problems such as emotional blocks and flooding .
It is not possible to mention this to any T, as the expected reaction would be too much for me to handle. They see me as a psychotic, disturbed, manipulative and dysfunctonal person who should be concentrating on behavioral change only. I understand that, and they have a point. But constantly being unable to bring up issues that confuse and upset me due to knowing that the response would be unbearable is driving me crazy.I am glad to hear that you have finally found the right T. Your point was clear, by the way, and did not seem to imply that finding a T usually takes 10 years.
May I ask what you suffer from (only if you feel comfortable replying).
Hugs to you too!
Posted by maya3 on July 28, 2010, at 15:33:03
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by maya3 on July 28, 2010, at 15:31:57
Posted by morgan miller on July 28, 2010, at 16:22:36
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by maya3 on July 28, 2010, at 15:31:57
>I did not experience childhood traumas of any kind. There are, however, periods of time I have repressed. I remember myself thinking as a little kid about how glad I was about having almost completely succeeded in blocking out certain periods. A while later I noticed no longer having access to them. It is clear to me that my genetic sensitivity and weaknesses were responsible for my being overwhelmed by things people usually take for granted. However, I suspect that this may have resulted in problems such as emotional blocks and flooding .
It is not possible to mention this to any T, as the expected reaction would be too much for me to handle. They see me as a psychotic, disturbed, manipulative and dysfunctonal person who should be concentrating on behavioral change only. I understand that, and they have a point. But constantly being unable to bring up issues that confuse and upset me due to knowing that the response would be unbearable is driving me crazy.I'm so sorry you have had such bad experiences with therapists. Please try not to let it keep you from finding a seeing a really good genuinely empathic and compassionate therapist. Believe me! There are some out there! These therapists will have an open mind and are willing to disregard any opinions/conclusions previously written by the therapists you have seen.
Are you sure you haven't suffered any childhood trauma? Merely going through a divorce, even the most amicable of divorces, is a traumatic event. You don't have to be abused physically to have been traumatized in any way. Verbal abuse and verbal criticism can be forms of trauma that can impact the development of your mental health. I remember my old therapist told me one time that if there were no criticism in the world, she would probably be out of a job.
>A while later I noticed no longer having access to them. It is clear to me that my genetic sensitivity and weaknesses were responsible for my being overwhelmed by things people usually take for granted. However, I suspect that this may have resulted in problems such as emotional blocks and flooding .
It is not possible to mention this to any T, as the expected reaction would be too much for me to handle.Can you further elucidate and expand on this? I really think you just have not found the right therapist.
If you don't mind my asking, where do you live?
Morgan
Posted by violette on July 28, 2010, at 20:07:31
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by maya3 on July 28, 2010, at 15:31:57
Maya-
I wrote a long message to you, but changed my mind about posting it here. If you turn your Babblemail on, I'll send it to you (it won't give me your real email address to do it that way).
Considering it contains personal information which would be fed to various sites around the internet, I decided to cancel posting the message Although it could have the potential to help others, it's not worth the risk in case for some reason later, I'd have to or want to delete something out of it I would be screwed.
If you don't want to turn on your Babblemail through the settings menu, I can revise it (as I saved it to a file) and post the message after deleting various information.
:)
Posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 9:03:09
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » maya3, posted by violette on July 28, 2010, at 20:07:31
Violette, I am trying to find the settings menu in order to turn on babblemail. I hope to find it eventually :)
Posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 9:22:35
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by morgan miller on July 28, 2010, at 16:22:36
> I'm so sorry you have had such bad experiences with therapists. Please try not to let it keep you from finding a seeing a really good genuinely empathic and compassionate therapist. Believe me! There are some out there! These therapists will have an open mind and are willing to disregard any opinions/conclusions previously written by the therapists you have seen.
Thank you for your encouragement.
> Are you sure you haven't suffered any childhood trauma? Merely going through a divorce, even the most amicable of divorces, is a traumatic event. You don't have to be abused physically to have been traumatized in any way. Verbal abuse and verbal criticism can be forms of trauma that can impact the development of your mental health. I remember my old therapist told me one time that if there were no criticism in the world, she would probably be out of a job.
All my difficulties were a direct result of my having been mentally ill all my life and not having been diagnosed. Having been expected to lead a normal life while having major handicaps ignored was too much for me to handle. Secondary problems developed as a result
> >A while later I noticed no longer having access to them. It is clear to me that my genetic sensitivity and weaknesses were responsible for my being overwhelmed by things people usually take for granted. However, I suspect that this may have resulted in problems such as emotional blocks and flooding .
> It is not possible to mention this to any T, as the expected reaction would be too much for me to handle.
>
> Can you further elucidate and expand on this?I know from experience that any T hearing something like that from me will mock me and see me as pathetic, delusional and unwilling to face the real issues (my mental illness).
> I really think you just have not found the right therapist.
Perhaps you are right.
>
> If you don't mind my asking, where do you live?Sorry that I prefer not to reply on public boards. Is it ok to send you babblemail?
>
> Morgan
Posted by morgan miller on July 29, 2010, at 9:46:58
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » morgan miller, posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 9:22:35
>Sorry that I prefer not to reply on public boards. Is it ok to send you babblemail?
Of course.
Posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 14:02:54
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » maya3, posted by violette on July 28, 2010, at 20:07:31
I sent you babblemail.
Posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 14:16:33
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by morgan miller on July 29, 2010, at 9:46:58
Morgan, I tried to send you babblemail but didn't succeed. Is your babblemail on?
Posted by ed_uk2010 on July 29, 2010, at 16:05:52
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » morgan miller, posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 14:16:33
> Morgan, I tried to send you babblemail but didn't succeed. Is your babblemail on?
Morgan's babblemail is off. You can tell this because his name is in black, not blue, at the top of his posts.
Posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 16:18:11
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by ed_uk2010 on July 29, 2010, at 16:05:52
> > Morgan, I tried to send you babblemail but didn't succeed. Is your babblemail on?
>
> Morgan's babblemail is off. You can tell this because his name is in black, not blue, at the top of his posts.
Thanks for the explanation.
Posted by violette on July 29, 2010, at 20:24:28
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » violette, posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 14:02:54
Hi Maya! I sent you a Babblemail too-but now have one to read myself. :)
I just sent you what I wrote yesterday-nothing I wouldn't share with the community here..(just nothing I want on various websites the rest of my life.)
Talk to you later!
Posted by morgan miller on July 29, 2010, at 23:05:35
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » morgan miller, posted by maya3 on July 29, 2010, at 14:16:33
> Morgan, I tried to send you babblemail but didn't succeed. Is your babblemail on?
OOps, nope it's not. I'm going to turn it on now.
Posted by maya3 on July 30, 2010, at 9:18:30
In reply to Re: sound familiar?, posted by morgan miller on July 29, 2010, at 23:05:35
Morgan, for some reason I am still unable to send you babblemail. It appears to still be off, perhaps due to some mistake.
Posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 16:45:29
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » morgan miller, posted by maya3 on July 30, 2010, at 9:18:30
OOps passed out before I got around to it : )
I will do it right now I promise!
Posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 16:57:17
In reply to Re: sound familiar? » morgan miller, posted by maya3 on July 30, 2010, at 9:18:30
I thought I knew how to do this but I'm having trouble with it now. Please Help!
Posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2010, at 21:05:04
In reply to O.K. How do I turn Babble Mail on?, posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 16:57:17
Morgan go to registration page where you signed up and you will see a place to click that says whether you wish to receive babblemail or not. Phillipa
Posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 23:29:04
In reply to Re: O.K. How do I turn Babble Mail on? » morgan miller, posted by Phillipa on July 30, 2010, at 21:05:04
Hmm, I went to registration before. Will try again. Thanks Phillipa
Posted by morgan miller on July 31, 2010, at 0:07:55
In reply to Re: O.K. How do I turn Babble Mail on?, posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 23:29:04
Still can't do it! What's wrong with me?! I know I've done it before.
Posted by Phillipa on July 31, 2010, at 20:09:06
In reply to Re: O.K. How do I turn Babble Mail on?, posted by morgan miller on July 31, 2010, at 0:07:55
I seriously don't know babble mail Dr Bob and ask him to help? Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on July 31, 2010, at 23:02:37
In reply to O.K. How do I turn Babble Mail on?, posted by morgan miller on July 30, 2010, at 16:57:17
> I thought I knew how to do this but I'm having trouble with it now. Please Help!
See:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#babblemail
Hope that helps,
Bob
Posted by morgan miller on August 1, 2010, at 2:46:29
In reply to Re: O.K. How do I turn Babble Mail on? » morgan miller, posted by Phillipa on July 31, 2010, at 20:09:06
O.K.! Babblemail is on! I must have been tired and impatient the other day and did not scroll down far enough on the settings page.
Thank you!
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