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Posted by Lou Pilder on May 1, 2010, at 7:03:16
Friends,
I am requesting that you bring up a video that gives statistics on suicide in relation to those taking psychotropic drugs. I think that this is important in discussions here concerning the advice given by members to othe rmembers and in relation to you having this educational video in order for you to make a more informed decision as to taking or not taking psychotropic drugs.
There are two videos that I think could answer a lot of questions. One question is if a person is suicidal, and a drug is classified as one that could induce a mind-alterd state to compell a person to think of killing themselves, would it be a sound mental-health practice for one to advocate taking a drug like that to another person while the other person is in a depressed state that could mean that the person could be contemplating suicide.
I have no kick against anyone taking psychotropic drugs, as long as the prescriber gives them with the proper stats. Then one could make their own determination as to if the benifits outweigh the risks.
So give me some FDA statistics, any old way to show them. These videos could be a helpful way to view them, any old way you choose them.
Lou
You can see the first video by bringing up google, then key in;
The Truth About Suicide-Part 1
If you bring up more than one video, the one that I am requesting that you view is from a group called Psychtruth.
Then you could click on Part 2 that may be on that page, or type in the same with Part 2
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 1, 2010, at 7:40:43
In reply to Lou's request-morinformsuicide, posted by Lou Pilder on May 1, 2010, at 7:03:16
> Friends,
> I am requesting that you bring up a video that gives statistics on suicide in relation to those taking psychotropic drugs. I think that this is important in discussions here concerning the advice given by members to othe rmembers and in relation to you having this educational video in order for you to make a more informed decision as to taking or not taking psychotropic drugs.
> There are two videos that I think could answer a lot of questions. One question is if a person is suicidal, and a drug is classified as one that could induce a mind-alterd state to compell a person to think of killing themselves, would it be a sound mental-health practice for one to advocate taking a drug like that to another person while the other person is in a depressed state that could mean that the person could be contemplating suicide.
> I have no kick against anyone taking psychotropic drugs, as long as the prescriber gives them with the proper stats. Then one could make their own determination as to if the benifits outweigh the risks.
> So give me some FDA statistics, any old way to show them. These videos could be a helpful way to view them, any old way you choose them.
> Lou
> You can see the first video by bringing up google, then key in;
> The Truth About Suicide-Part 1
> If you bring up more than one video, the one that I am requesting that you view is from a group called Psychtruth.
> Then you could click on Part 2 that may be on that page, or type in the same with Part 2Friends,
To bring up the videos, first bring up google, then type in:
Youtube, The Truth About Suicide-Part 1
I had left out the "Youtube" in the previous post.
Lou
Posted by bleauberry on May 1, 2010, at 18:03:55
In reply to Lou's request-morinformsuicide, posted by Lou Pilder on May 1, 2010, at 7:03:16
My own take on this issue is as follows.
If a person starts to feel worse upon starting a psychotropic drug, stop it immediately.
If the doctor says keep with it because the drug needs more time, get another doctor.
And get to the emergency room to allow professionals the opportunity to help stabilize in a safe environment before making any further decisions.
To the white coats and doctors and families and millions who have never experienced it, I can say from personal experience that yes a drug can indeed create a much worse depression than the original one, and do so in a very short period of time. If the person is already on the suicidal borderline, there is no elbow room to play with.
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 1, 2010, at 20:33:27
In reply to Re: Lou's request-morinformsuicide, posted by bleauberry on May 1, 2010, at 18:03:55
> My own take on this issue is as follows.
>
> If a person starts to feel worse upon starting a psychotropic drug, stop it immediately.
>
> If the doctor says keep with it because the drug needs more time, get another doctor.
>
> And get to the emergency room to allow professionals the opportunity to help stabilize in a safe environment before making any further decisions.
>
> To the white coats and doctors and families and millions who have never experienced it, I can say from personal experience that yes a drug can indeed create a much worse depression than the original one, and do so in a very short period of time. If the person is already on the suicidal borderline, there is no elbow room to play with.
>
> bleau,
You wrote,[...if the doctor says to keep with it because the drug needs more time...].
But does not the person seeing the doctor and taking the drug think that the doctor is right and thearfore will take the drug day after day as he/she is told to do?
Now if the drug could induce a mind-alterd state to the person to compell them to think of killing themselves, then could not the taking of the drug more and more cause the potential for the mind-alterd state to be more and more probable?
You see, do not people trust doctors when they go to them? Are they not seeking help and think that a doctor will do what will be good for them and thearfore follow what they tell them to do?
Here is a video that I would like to include in this discussion.
Lou
A. bring up google
B then type in:
youtube,Antidepressants found to be no better than Placebo
Posted by sigismund on May 2, 2010, at 15:42:35
In reply to Lou's request-gudfordem » bleauberry, posted by Lou Pilder on May 1, 2010, at 20:33:27
>You see, do not people trust doctors when they go to them? Are they not seeking help and think that a doctor will do what will be good for them and thearfore follow what they tell them to do?
My parents' generation did. Not so much any more.
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