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Posted by Roslynn on April 28, 2010, at 16:44:28
Hi, does anyone else experience a sort of inner agitation combined with a sense of unreality? This can last for hours for me.
Is it part of bipolar II? Is it a mixed state? It includes a feeling of horror and depression. I feel like I need to escape from my own mind yet can't.
Thank you for any help!
Roslynn
Posted by SLS on April 29, 2010, at 5:35:12
In reply to derealization with bipolar II?, posted by Roslynn on April 28, 2010, at 16:44:28
> Hi, does anyone else experience a sort of inner agitation combined with a sense of unreality? This can last for hours for me.
>
> Is it part of bipolar II? Is it a mixed state? It includes a feeling of horror and depression. I feel like I need to escape from my own mind yet can't.I experienced profound derealization when I was younger. Now, it is infrequent. It coincided with increased depression / anhedonia and anxiety. I am bipolar, but experience mania and mixed states only in association with antidrepressant use. It might help if you were to reduce your level of anxiety. My periods of derealization are definitely not a product of a mixed state.
- Scott
Posted by Netch on April 29, 2010, at 6:09:30
In reply to derealization with bipolar II?, posted by Roslynn on April 28, 2010, at 16:44:28
> Hi, does anyone else experience a sort of inner agitation combined with a sense of unreality? This can last for hours for me.
>
> Is it part of bipolar II? Is it a mixed state? It includes a feeling of horror and depression. I feel like I need to escape from my own mind yet can't.
>
> Thank you for any help!
>
> RoslynnI know the feeling. There are many epithets to describe it but the feeling is the same.
Posted by g_g_g_unit on April 29, 2010, at 8:22:37
In reply to Re: derealization with bipolar II?, posted by Netch on April 29, 2010, at 6:09:30
i'm just curious whether bipolar derealization is accompanied by obsessive thinking?
i experience DP/DR as a part of OCD, but it's more a product of uncertainty - i.e. i will question over and over again whether i am "truly" experiencing something, and then try to reassure myself that i am.
alternatively, i have experienced dp/dr as a part of depression which is not accompanied by obsessive thinking, but is instead a very real state of mind/being in which i literally feel blank - emotionally, mentally, etc.
Posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 18:58:35
In reply to derealization with bipolar II?, posted by Roslynn on April 28, 2010, at 16:44:28
Roslynn,
How are your other symptoms? Night waking, etc. I experience what you describe at my depressive worst, so I'm wondering if you have any sense, no matter how small, that the awful feelings are diminishing in frequency and duration. I would take that as indications of slowly healing.
I was/am actually terrified by those episodes--they were scarring. However, I have improved as my depression lifted. My understanding of BP II is it that the depression is more stubborn and the risk of hypo-mania not as high.
Any improvement? You will make it out of this state--you really will. The thoughts will diminish and so will the fear.
Posted by Roslynn on April 30, 2010, at 16:54:02
In reply to Re: derealization with bipolar II? » Roslynn, posted by floatingbridge on April 29, 2010, at 18:58:35
Hi floatingbridge,
I am also experiencing waves of depression and crying jags. My derealization symptoms started in 2007...
It's interesting that you experienced this as part of depression. Do you have bipolar II or strictly depression?My doctor had taken away one of my antidepressants a few months ago and I'm thinking possibly that could have made things worse. I'm going to talk to him about this...
Thank you for your support!
> Roslynn,
>
> How are your other symptoms? Night waking, etc. I experience what you describe at my depressive worst, so I'm wondering if you have any sense, no matter how small, that the awful feelings are diminishing in frequency and duration. I would take that as indications of slowly healing.
>
> I was/am actually terrified by those episodes--they were scarring. However, I have improved as my depression lifted. My understanding of BP II is it that the depression is more stubborn and the risk of hypo-mania not as high.
>
> Any improvement? You will make it out of this state--you really will. The thoughts will diminish and so will the fear.
>
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