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Posted by worriedmom2 on April 23, 2010, at 11:53:10
My teenage son has an ASD though at the very high end - variously dx'd with AS, NVLD, Semantic-Pragmatic Disorder etc along with a huge co-dx of Anxiety Disorder which has led to OCD/disordered thinking.
Anyway, an academic superstar, but alone socially. This didn't seem to bother him much until this year...he became clinically depressed with suicidal ideations. We pulled him from his school and got him into an acute assessment facility.
He is doing MUCH better and self-reports he no longer feels depressed but anxiety remains a huge issue.
He is on Lexapro which they recently upped to a therapeutic level from an intro level and this certainly could be part of the reason my son is past the depression. re: the anxiety/disoredered thinking -- The med dr there knows that at one point in the recent past we gave a month trial to Risperdal and it was awful - totally flat affect in demeanor and speech and appetite and large weight increase. So, given that, the dr is suggesting Invecta which even he admits is pretty much the active part of Risperdal. Yet, he says for reasons noone can explain some clinical evidence supports that some people respond positively to one and not the other.
Has anyone got any information or anecdotal evidence either pro or con?
Thank you.
Posted by Phillipa on April 23, 2010, at 12:03:03
In reply to Invicta?, posted by worriedmom2 on April 23, 2010, at 11:53:10
No but I feel for you and your Son and hoping you get a large response to your post. Love Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk2010 on April 23, 2010, at 14:11:18
In reply to Invicta?, posted by worriedmom2 on April 23, 2010, at 11:53:10
Hi there,
>Invicta
Did you mean Invega (paliperidone)?
If so, it sounds like an unusual choice since it is indeed closely related to risperidone.
Posted by worriedmom2 on April 23, 2010, at 16:43:02
In reply to Re: Invicta?, posted by ed_uk2010 on April 23, 2010, at 14:11:18
Yes. I meant Invega.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 23, 2010, at 18:01:56
In reply to Invicta?, posted by worriedmom2 on April 23, 2010, at 11:53:10
> My teenage son has an ASD though at the very high end - variously dx'd with AS, NVLD, Semantic-Pragmatic Disorder etc along with a huge co-dx of Anxiety Disorder which has led to OCD/disordered thinking.
> Anyway, an academic superstar, but alone socially. This didn't seem to bother him much until this year...he became clinically depressed with suicidal ideations. We pulled him from his school and got him into an acute assessment facility.
> He is doing MUCH better and self-reports he no longer feels depressed but anxiety remains a huge issue.
> He is on Lexapro which they recently upped to a therapeutic level from an intro level and this certainly could be part of the reason my son is past the depression. re: the anxiety/disoredered thinking -- The med dr there knows that at one point in the recent past we gave a month trial to Risperdal and it was awful - totally flat affect in demeanor and speech and appetite and large weight increase. So, given that, the dr is suggesting Invecta which even he admits is pretty much the active part of Risperdal. Yet, he says for reasons noone can explain some clinical evidence supports that some people respond positively to one and not the other.
> Has anyone got any information or anecdotal evidence either pro or con?
> Thank you.wm2,
You wrote,[...risperdal..Invecta..has anyone...or con?...].
Well, I do not know of the drug Invecta but it could be a name given in another country for Risperdal.
Now Risperdal has many potential life-ruining posssibilities. In my study of ancient pharmacology, those that used drugs to alter the minds of people found that particular plants and insects had chemicals in them to produce mind-altering effects and to poison people to death. The people that used those drugs to do so are called sorcerers in English and in Greek the word translated as sourcererr iss pharmikapia or some form of that word which we get our word pharmacy from.
The plant that has a chemical called piperidine was used to kill people or to slowly alter one's mind so that they would become easily controlled. Piperidine is in some pepper plants or in poison hemlock and other plants. Today, the synthesis of piperdine compounds can be dome by chemists. Risperdal contains compounds of some form of piperidine. So if you think that psychotropic drugs are new, they have been around for thousands of years to alter the mind of someone or to kill them by people back then called today as sorcerers.
There is a list of potential life-ruining events that could happen to one taking risperdal that one could look up in a search. There is an FDA warning also now about this chemical substance. (reaacted by respondent)really?
Lou
Posted by Deneb on April 23, 2010, at 21:07:17
In reply to Invicta?, posted by worriedmom2 on April 23, 2010, at 11:53:10
Hello worriedmom2!
Welcome to Psycho-Babble! I'm afraid I don't know anything about Invega, but I hope it works for your son.
Deneb
Posted by Zyprexa on April 24, 2010, at 3:59:45
In reply to Invicta?, posted by worriedmom2 on April 23, 2010, at 11:53:10
I've taken risperdal and had a negative response to it. Invega is pretty much the same thing as risperdal, although I have never taken it. I do recomend zyprexa anouther Atypical antipsychotic. Which I find very good for anxiety. Its good for a lot of other disorders too. I also take perphenazine which is the only other AP that I find works. Its generic and sedating. I can't say I've found anyone who uses risperdal for anxiety. Also some doctors think antidepressants (SSRIs) can work for anxiety. I've never taken one that does.
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 24, 2010, at 8:08:04
In reply to Lou's response-sokrateez » worriedmom2, posted by Lou Pilder on April 23, 2010, at 18:01:56
> > My teenage son has an ASD though at the very high end - variously dx'd with AS, NVLD, Semantic-Pragmatic Disorder etc along with a huge co-dx of Anxiety Disorder which has led to OCD/disordered thinking.
> > Anyway, an academic superstar, but alone socially. This didn't seem to bother him much until this year...he became clinically depressed with suicidal ideations. We pulled him from his school and got him into an acute assessment facility.
> > He is doing MUCH better and self-reports he no longer feels depressed but anxiety remains a huge issue.
> > He is on Lexapro which they recently upped to a therapeutic level from an intro level and this certainly could be part of the reason my son is past the depression. re: the anxiety/disoredered thinking -- The med dr there knows that at one point in the recent past we gave a month trial to Risperdal and it was awful - totally flat affect in demeanor and speech and appetite and large weight increase. So, given that, the dr is suggesting Invecta which even he admits is pretty much the active part of Risperdal. Yet, he says for reasons noone can explain some clinical evidence supports that some people respond positively to one and not the other.
> > Has anyone got any information or anecdotal evidence either pro or con?
> > Thank you.
>
> wm2,
> You wrote,[...risperdal..Invecta..has anyone...or con?...].
> Well, I do not know of the drug Invecta but it could be a name given in another country for Risperdal.
> Now Risperdal has many potential life-ruining posssibilities. In my study of ancient pharmacology, those that used drugs to alter the minds of people found that particular plants and insects had chemicals in them to produce mind-altering effects and to poison people to death. The people that used those drugs to do so are called sorcerers in English and in Greek the word translated as sourcererr iss pharmikapia or some form of that word which we get our word pharmacy from.
> The plant that has a chemical called piperidine was used to kill people or to slowly alter one's mind so that they would become easily controlled. Piperidine is in some pepper plants or in poison hemlock and other plants. Today, the synthesis of piperdine compounds can be dome by chemists. Risperdal contains compounds of some form of piperidine. So if you think that psychotropic drugs are new, they have been around for thousands of years to alter the mind of someone or to kill them by people back then called today as sorcerers.
> There is a list of potential life-ruining events that could happen to one taking risperdal that one could look up in a search. There is an FDA warning also now about this chemical substance. (reaacted by respondent)really?
> Louwm2,
You wrote,[...anyone..or con?...]
Someone here posted about another drug. But what are these drugs? What can they do to your son?
Now I know that parents generally want to be the right kind of parent. But do you know what could happen to your son if he takes these drugs?
I'm talking about dystonia, and sudden death, and mind-altered states and to have their mind altered to think to commit suicide. And then there is the death threat of neuroleptic malignant syndrome and the potential permanetly disfiguring condition of Tardive Dyskinesia.
And then you say that your doctor doesn't know things. Well here is what you could know. There are drugs said here that are made that have been used as chemical dyes and insecticides. They poison the nerve cells to kill the insect by blocking neurotransmitter chemicals of the nerves. They are called neuroleptics. Do you know what they do to the nervous system? Well, they can cause life-ruining conditions such as Tardive Dyskinesia and Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome which could be fatal.
You say that your doctor doesn't know some things. Well I say to go back to your doctor and ask him/her if he/she knows about Tardive Dyskinesia and Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome and ask him to explaine that to you. And then you can make up your own decision as to if having your son take these drugs if the benifits outweigh the risk.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on April 24, 2010, at 12:37:35
In reply to Invicta?, posted by worriedmom2 on April 23, 2010, at 11:53:10
> My teenage son has an ASD though at the very high end - variously dx'd with AS, NVLD, Semantic-Pragmatic Disorder etc along with a huge co-dx of Anxiety Disorder which has led to OCD/disordered thinking.
> Anyway, an academic superstar, but alone socially. This didn't seem to bother him much until this year...he became clinically depressed with suicidal ideations. We pulled him from his school and got him into an acute assessment facility.
> He is doing MUCH better and self-reports he no longer feels depressed but anxiety remains a huge issue.
> He is on Lexapro which they recently upped to a therapeutic level from an intro level and this certainly could be part of the reason my son is past the depression. re: the anxiety/disoredered thinking -- The med dr there knows that at one point in the recent past we gave a month trial to Risperdal and it was awful - totally flat affect in demeanor and speech and appetite and large weight increase. So, given that, the dr is suggesting Invecta which even he admits is pretty much the active part of Risperdal. Yet, he says for reasons noone can explain some clinical evidence supports that some people respond positively to one and not the other.
> Has anyone got any information or anecdotal evidence either pro or con?
> Thank you.wm2,
You wrote,[...anyone...con?...]
Lou
If you choose to see this video, I think that you could have more education in relation to makeing your own determination if the benefits outway the risks of supplying your child with psychotropic drugs. Here is a way to see a video.
A. bring up google (www.google.com)
B. Type in the box:
youtube, Correlation Between Prescription Drugs, Children, Violence
Lou
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