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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on April 9, 2010, at 23:42:08
I've been on Zyprexa 30mg for a while now, and I wanted to share that it seems to reverse the memory back to previous period of time how I used to see life from the previous stages, it seems to shutdown some ... active regions that are too active and I feel like i'm in 2006 again.
I know that ... i'm just being lazy and not looking up many hundred of posts that can provide info from the past, and maybe that's an awnser to look for in the previous posts since 1998-1999. It's been a decade and lets make this decade memorable with better feeling of today and tommorow.
Also I wanted to ask...Zyprexa causes weight gain...what can stop it from doing this?
rj
Posted by morganator on April 9, 2010, at 23:56:56
In reply to Zyprexa - need some input, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on April 9, 2010, at 23:42:08
Metformin may prevent the weight gain and assist in weight loss. On that high a dose, I don't see why a doctor would not be open to letting you try Metformin.
Resveratrol has been shown to have some of the same mechanisms as Metformin, so it may help with weightloss as well. The best supplier/manufacturer of resveratrol is Revgenetics at Revgenetics.com.
Fish oil and Coconut oil may help with weight loss as well. They are also both good for your brain and body.
Other than supplements, exercise and diet, if you don't do these already.
Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2010, at 0:17:53
In reply to Re: Zyprexa - need some input, posted by morganator on April 9, 2010, at 23:56:56
RJ what's this? Love Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on April 10, 2010, at 14:03:43
In reply to Zyprexa - need some input, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on April 9, 2010, at 23:42:08
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> Also I wanted to ask...Zyprexa causes weight gain...what can stop it from doing this?
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> rjFor me the weight gain stopped on its own at about 3 months and then backed off a little bit. Others seem to keep gaining. Others not really a problem.
I'm not sure there is any way to stop it except for targeted food choices. Which is an excellent idea anyway, regardless of anything else. If there is a health issue, any kind, I always believe the roots of healing are in the choices we make at the grocery store.
Somehow we humans, especially Americans, seem to think we have complete freedom without consequence to eat whatever we want. I truly do not believe we can. Food choices significantly impact health.
Zyprexa likely interacts with the particular genes responsible for directing whether food goes to fat storage or to be burned off. Limiting the calories will take away the power of those genes. That doesn't mean limiting food. It means limiting which kinds of foods are bought. Heavy emphasis on veggies. Limit all junk foods, chips, pizzas, pastas, breads, sugars. Eat the right kinds of fats, which are organic eggs, avocados, nuts, olive oil. Consume a lot of purified water before meals to trick the stomach to feel fuller than it is.
This is similar to the Atkins diet, which is basically limiting carbs. Replace them with veggies, but not root veggies.
People naturally complain about diet changes all the time. I did too when I found out I was gluten intolerant. Here I am already underweight and I have to now avoid one of the primary fat/weight promoting things I ate? (foods made of wheat...buns, breads, pizzas, cereals, pastas). Not fair. Not cool. I've since discovered I can replace all of them with non-wheat subsititutes. Trial and error I found the good ones that are hard to tell the difference from wheat.
I also limited sugars due to doctor's hunch of an underlying yeast/candida problem.Three months later, I think the only wheat product I still wish I could eat are english muffins. Other than that, my taste buds have changed, just like a book said they would, and just like my doc said they would, and I would not eat my former foods given a choice. I like my new ones better.
It happens every time it is tried. The thing is, it is not a diet. Not a project. Not a fad. It is a new lifestyle that is not bound by a calender or by a weight scale.
Zyprexa is a tough one. It can be done though. The changes would all be for the better in every way...weight, cancer, other diseases, and even your psychiatric symptoms.
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 11, 2010, at 7:50:12
In reply to Re: Zyprexa - need some input, posted by bleauberry on April 10, 2010, at 14:03:43
> I'm not sure there is any way to stop it except for targeted food choices.
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding food choices to Psycho-Babble Alternative. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20100322/msgs/943054.html
That'll be considered a new thread, so if you'd like to be notified by email of follow-ups to it, you'll need to request that there. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by morganator on April 11, 2010, at 23:14:03
In reply to Redirect: food choices, posted by Dr. Bob on April 11, 2010, at 7:50:12
Aren't we talking about how to deal with Zyprexa and weight gain? Why should it go in the Alternatives area?
Posted by Phillipa on April 11, 2010, at 23:44:36
In reply to Re: Redirect: food choices, posted by morganator on April 11, 2010, at 23:14:03
I agree the original thread is on a med zyprexa and how not to gain weight on the med. Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on April 12, 2010, at 17:21:40
In reply to Zyprexa - need some input, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on April 9, 2010, at 23:42:08
I guess this thread is still about how to deal with zyprexa weight gain, except now the only option is the addition of another drug, not a lifestyle adjustment approach. Makes sense though, considering this is a "medication" board.
I admittedly do find it hard to call strategic food choice as an alternative treatment. Seems to me it should actually be the primary foundation, and the zyprexa is an alternative added to it.
I guess it depends on the viewer's vantage point.
Ok. Lower the dose or stop it completely. Add an amphetamine. Add trileptal.
I think I'll try the food approach first and then use other medication things as an alternative if the foods alone don't fully gain control of the situation.
Posted by emmanuel98 on April 12, 2010, at 19:33:55
In reply to Re: Zyprexa - need some input, posted by bleauberry on April 12, 2010, at 17:21:40
I just want to say that I gained 2-3 pounds a week on zyprexa (also on abilify). I never ate more, was not hungry, do not have an eating disorder and never gained weight rapidly in the past. There's something about zyprexa and metabolism that diet can't change. I tried cytomel but that didn't help.
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