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Posted by floatingbridge on January 10, 2010, at 15:21:39
In Sunday's magazine section, a fascinating essay. Might trigger some disagreement--however, I found it a long, worthwhile read to the end.
I was unable to post link from my phone. If someone else finds it noteworthy, maybe they can post the link.
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Posted by obsidian on January 10, 2010, at 15:45:08
In reply to NYT: the Americanization of mental illness, posted by floatingbridge on January 10, 2010, at 15:21:39
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/magazine/10psyche-t.html?scp=1&sq=mental%20illness&st=cse
Posted by floatingbridge on January 10, 2010, at 15:47:47
In reply to I think I found the link :-) thanks fb, posted by obsidian on January 10, 2010, at 15:45:08
Posted by Sigismund on January 10, 2010, at 18:33:14
In reply to ((thanks sid)) (nm) » obsidian, posted by floatingbridge on January 10, 2010, at 15:47:47
Wasn't that wonderful?
What an experiment.
>Analyzing the data, Mehta found a difference between the group of subjects given the psychosocial explanation for their partners mental-illness history and those given the brain-disease explanation. Those who believed that their partner suffered a biochemical disease like any other increased the severity of the shocks at a faster rate than those who believed they were paired with someone who had a mental disorder caused by an event in the past.
Posted by Phillipa on January 10, 2010, at 19:42:18
In reply to Re: ((thanks sid)), posted by Sigismund on January 10, 2010, at 18:33:14
I disagree to an extent that my favorite patients when nursing were schizophrenic as they are sweet and kind and gentle. Now I do agree they need meds to treat their illness. This is a real illness. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on January 11, 2010, at 18:42:32
In reply to Re: ((thanks sid)), posted by Phillipa on January 10, 2010, at 19:42:18
I disagree with my own previous message after thinking it over. This is more to me a psychsocial issue to me as society does here in the US and other countries as well stigmatize schizophrenics. But I wonder in the countries that support and care for those who have it. How do they deal with their symptoms without meds? Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on January 11, 2010, at 19:25:22
In reply to Re: Disagree with my previous answer after thought, posted by Phillipa on January 11, 2010, at 18:42:32
> I disagree with my own previous message after thinking it over. This is more to me a psychsocial issue to me as society does here in the US and other countries as well stigmatize schizophrenics. But I wonder in the countries that support and care for those who have it. How do they deal with their symptoms without meds? Phillipa
Phillipa,
I spoke with my pdoc about the essay--in many regards he was appalled and felt that the author did not grasp the topic as a psych would--I mean, of course. What transpired after that is another topic. Regarding schizophreinics, about whom I know little, I felt the author's intent was to discuss the cultural enviornments around the illness--I thought the idea of "high emotional" respose in US familes very interesting. Did the author really support the idea of no meds for these patients? I must re-read.
BTW, my great aunt, whom I adored was schizophrenic. Not to cast a generalization, she really was one of the sweetest, loving people I knew in my early life (I was unaware of her illness and where she went on her extended absences). Sometimes, when she became paranoid, she suffered greatly. Children loved her, but the neighbors would become fearful and pull them inside when she would appear as the virgin mary with a bread basket on her head. Guess she might not make a good babysitter. But my, she was a gentle person.
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Posted by Phillipa on January 11, 2010, at 21:18:32
In reply to Re: Disagree with my previous answer after thought » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on January 11, 2010, at 19:25:22
FB to be honest didn't reread it. It stuck in my head as I realized not all have worked individually with people like this so might be scared of bizarre behavior when off meds. I just assumed that these remote areas kind of just accepted the relatives as they were. Geez now maybe I better reread also. Thanks Phillipa
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