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Posted by floatingbridge on September 20, 2009, at 14:15:19
In reply to Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on September 19, 2009, at 9:56:50
Hmmm. I wonder if that's why my Barr 'spansules' never seemed to last more than 4 hours.
I've only experienced generic.
Thank you for bringing this to attention. I'm not one in the 'know' to do much about it...but it might tip me towards trying vyvanse....
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Posted by yxibow on September 21, 2009, at 4:25:12
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by bulldog2 on September 19, 2009, at 12:59:58
> > teva's a horrible company for psych drugs. every teva drug i have is completley different than other generics/brand name.
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> > HEAR THIS: micheal jacksons propofol was made by Teva. Nobody says nething about that. Teva is terrible in my experience
What the heck does a generic anesthetic have to do with Michael Jackson's death ? It's been around since the 80's for short acting anesthesia.
Teva has nothing to do with an irresponsible doctor injecting someone with a drug to be used in ERs.
> I disagree. I've had Teva nortriptyline and gabapentin and both were excellent.
I've had "real" Lamictal, Teva lamotrigine and Apotex lamotrigine. I thought there was some difference in the way it took effect, but this may really have been nothing to do with the medication and instead due to raising the level of Anafranil as there really hasn't been any reports of thirst with Lamictal.
Teva has been one of Israel's most successful bio-tech corporations, and yes, it acquired two other companies (Ivax and Barr specifically) bringing it to the status of a multinational entity. But, that's trivia....
If you take an example of any generic medication, say a tricyclic or a benzodiazepine, you are bound to find by this point at least half a dozen generic manufacturers.Apotex, Teva, Watson, Mylan, Sandoz, Dr. Reddy's, the list goes on.
Yes, Teva is the world's largest generic manufacturer. They also have brought two of their own medications to market and are partering to do more of their own research.
My point is, I'm sure someone will find their generic to be "awful" compared to the original or another one because 1) possibly the binding is different meaning the drug is released a bit faster or slower or 2) it has nothing to do with the generic and they had a shift in their illness that happened to coincide with it.
It's a tight market out there so pharmacies frequently order different generics because the price for a particular generic has risen or fallen with the stock market and numerous other factors.I recently retried the Teva lamotrigine because I had some still around and I can't say I felt the same side effect sensation (yet) anyhow that I felt before.
Conclusion... I don't know ?
The pharmacy did say I could request the Teva generic instead of the Apotex if they ordered it a bit in advance. I think other pharmacies can special order that too -- depends on their flexibility.
-- tidings
Posted by RMFlorida on September 21, 2009, at 10:32:57
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared » bulldog2, posted by yxibow on September 21, 2009, at 4:25:12
@yxibow -- I'll clarify a couple points to be certain my post is not misinterpreted...
I did not attempt to demonize Teva/Barr in a generalized sense; I don't have any information to support that.
Rather, I simply pointed out the very significant difference in their particular formulation of Dexedrine, and the fact that there exists *no alternative* in the event people do have bad luck with that particular formula.
In my humble opinion, I'm sure Teva/Barr's drugs are no more toxic than the brand-drugs (on the whole) and had nothing to do with Michael Jackson's death. I agree that was not relevant to this post.
However, with that said, you've taken an off-topic point (Teva/Barr beyond the Dexedrine issues, and in general) and continued to take it further off-topic, and these off-topic points dillute the important point I attempted to make.
For example, you mention that some people may have a different response to generics and that it's probably not the generic (rather, it's a change in their environment, condition, mental perspective, etc).
Nothing I wrote disagreed with this in any way. However, if you read my post, you'll realize that I didn't come to my conclusion lightly; only once I returned to the original drug and noticed a profound difference. In other words: taking the original for months, no problems ... taking the Barr for a month, WITH problems ... go back to the original, no problems once again.
All the while, having assumed that I was on the same drug / generic (in other words, there was no subjective logic relating to Barr or any other vendor, because I shared your opinion that such differences were not empirically justified, and had believed I was on the same prescription until speaking with the pharmacist).
In short, I'm not looking to start a thread discussing the strengths or weaknesses of Teva/Barr as a whole, or of generics-versus-brand drugs.
Rather, my point was much simpler, and very explicitly declared:
Those prescribed to Dexedrine (conventional, immediate release) no longer have *options*. Barr is the only manufacturer, and there have been *more than the usual* number of complaints about their formulation.
One such compliant is from me, a person who until they took the Barr Dexedrine, swore that generics were the same as brand-drugs.
My goal was to present this in hopes of helping others who stumble upon this thread. People who, like myself, wonder if they're crazy because they've run into these same issues.
I also hoped to bring this issue to the attention of others, on the odd chance that it might eventually help get to the bottom of this issue by raising awareness and eventually fixing the problems.
Finally, I wrote this point as a request, in the event that I'm wrong, or that someone has information to share about an elusive alternative to Barr Dexedrine that does exist, or an accepted work-around, so to speak.
To anyone that would prefer to discuss Teva/Barr beyond their Dexedrine product, it detracts from the original topic, and if at all possible, I'd like to keep this on-topic as much as possible.
Posted by cII on September 21, 2009, at 19:23:20
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on September 21, 2009, at 10:32:57
Hi, I registered just to reply to this current thread.
I've been a longtime Dexedrine user, since the early 90's before there were any generics available. Went ~10 years without medication and within that time generics became available, as well as the rise in popularity of Adderall. At age 27 I went back to seek help from a psychiatrist who at first prescribed Adderall XR. Found it unacceptable, too buzzy and speedy. Later got brand name GSK Dexedrine Spansules which were always good but my insurance hassled me and my doctor to no end for specifically requesting the GSK brand. They always refused to pay for the brand name, using the claim that there was a "generic equivalent" available. Like so many other stories you find on the internet, I found Barr's extended release Dextroamphetamine made me feel like total garbage. I actually had to throw away a couple bottles of it (doctor didn't want it, pharmacy wouldn't take it back). I did enjoy a couple of prescription fills with Mallinckrodt's extended release Dextroamphetamine, but sadly they have discontinued making it.
It is true, the only options as of now (Fall 2009) is stuff made by Barr or the extremely expensive GSK brand name Spansules. Right now I'm settling with 10mg Barr IR tablets. They are not ideal, but I have to say they are nowhere near as awful as Barr's extended release dextroamphetamine. Something about Barr's ER dex was very wrong. I'd call their IR tablets just a "little dirty" but usually tolerable.
I have yet to try Vyvanse, but would rather not even bother with testing it out (I personally think it is a BS reformulation of the same old drug for patent purposes). I just want good old tried-and-true Dexedrine back, without garbage generic versions. Hopefully there will be some change in options for us soon.
Posted by bulldog2 on September 23, 2009, at 15:20:49
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared » RMFlorida, posted by cII on September 21, 2009, at 19:23:20
> Hi, I registered just to reply to this current thread.
>
> I've been a longtime Dexedrine user, since the early 90's before there were any generics available. Went ~10 years without medication and within that time generics became available, as well as the rise in popularity of Adderall. At age 27 I went back to seek help from a psychiatrist who at first prescribed Adderall XR. Found it unacceptable, too buzzy and speedy. Later got brand name GSK Dexedrine Spansules which were always good but my insurance hassled me and my doctor to no end for specifically requesting the GSK brand. They always refused to pay for the brand name, using the claim that there was a "generic equivalent" available. Like so many other stories you find on the internet, I found Barr's extended release Dextroamphetamine made me feel like total garbage. I actually had to throw away a couple bottles of it (doctor didn't want it, pharmacy wouldn't take it back). I did enjoy a couple of prescription fills with Mallinckrodt's extended release Dextroamphetamine, but sadly they have discontinued making it.
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> It is true, the only options as of now (Fall 2009) is stuff made by Barr or the extremely expensive GSK brand name Spansules. Right now I'm settling with 10mg Barr IR tablets. They are not ideal, but I have to say they are nowhere near as awful as Barr's extended release dextroamphetamine. Something about Barr's ER dex was very wrong. I'd call their IR tablets just a "little dirty" but usually tolerable.
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> I have yet to try Vyvanse, but would rather not even bother with testing it out (I personally think it is a BS reformulation of the same old drug for patent purposes). I just want good old tried-and-true Dexedrine back, without garbage generic versions. Hopefully there will be some change in options for us soon.Since you can get a free script of vyvanse it might be worth trying?
Posted by cII on September 24, 2009, at 10:58:51
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by bulldog2 on September 23, 2009, at 15:20:49
>Since you can get a free script of vyvanse it might be worth trying?
I may try it eventually. My doctor hasn't really pushed it on me even though it looks like the rep visited him already. I'm also busy with life (work/family) at the moment don't really want to go through that "new med" period in case Vyvanse doesn't work the quite the same way.
BTW, I'd be a little more inclined to try Vyvanse if it had a easier scheduling than cII.
(However, less-than-cII might not always be a good thing; hence my handle for this forum. I have a loose belief that "if it's not a cII than it's not a good drug" ;-) Take Strattera for example, YUCK! I got suckered into trying that one just to avoid cII scowls at the pharmacy and monthly hand-written refills, but that garbage threw my life off track for well over a month. The SSRI I got suckered into trying at one time also had a quality-of-life-killing effect for over a month. I guess the only exception to my cII beliefs are benzos, although I can't understand why they don't have a higher scheduling, seeing as they are far more addictive than any amphetamine. Sorry for this little OT section, but this is a forum and I feel a need to get these things off my chest.)I guess it just doesn't seem worth it to switch meds right away when I haven't heard overly-wonderful reviews of the new Vyvanse alternative. Good point about the free script though, I should probably pick one up while the offer is still out there. Maybe I'll save it and test it out over the holidays.
Posted by RMFlorida on September 24, 2009, at 12:39:14
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by cII on September 24, 2009, at 10:58:51
CII-
I completely agree with you on the issues with the stigma. It would be great if there were an alternative; although, I'm just thankful it exists, because it's such a tremendous resource for people who truly need it.Regarding testing different meds. I'm not rich, but no amount of "free" is worth going through the month-long ordeal of trying another med that doesn't work. In other words, while "free" is very nice, the price is of much less concern than losing a month to a hazy-feel.
I really appreciate your feedback, thank you for taking the time to write.
Posted by mistermulti on October 27, 2009, at 22:10:52
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on September 21, 2009, at 10:32:57
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> I also hoped to bring this issue to the attention of others, on the odd chance that it might eventually help get to the bottom of this issue by raising awareness and eventually fixing the problems.
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> Finally, I wrote this point as a request, in the event that I'm wrong, or that someone has information to share about an elusive alternative to Barr Dexedrine that does exist, or an accepted work-around, so to speak.
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> To anyone that would prefer to discuss Teva/Barr beyond their Dexedrine product, it detracts from the original topic, and if at all possible, I'd like to keep this on-topic as much as possible.
>Just got prescribed Dex spanels a couple of weeks ago, and Dex 5 IR today. I have noticed differences with generics before, but I have no previous experience with Dex other than this new script.They are both Barr, thank you for your feedback, I will attempt to ferret out some background from a GSK source if at all possible.
Posted by Deneb on October 27, 2009, at 22:19:18
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared » RMFlorida, posted by mistermulti on October 27, 2009, at 22:10:52
Hello mistermulti!
Welcome to Psycho-Babble. I hope your new prescription works out for you!
Deneb
Posted by RMFlorida on October 27, 2009, at 22:42:07
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared » mistermulti, posted by Deneb on October 27, 2009, at 22:19:18
Wishing you the best of luck with both.
To update others here...
I've begun taking the 5mg Spanules (as opposed to 5mg IR). I actually prefer the alternative brand IR generics (no longer made) over the Spanules, and the cost of the Spanules is certainly an issue, roughly 8+ times more expensive.
Trying to keep my dosage low, and going with the Spanules, is a tough road to travel. However, it's better than the alternative ;-).
Posted by floatingbridge on October 27, 2009, at 22:57:41
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on October 27, 2009, at 22:42:07
Good Luck RMFlorida. Your post has me thinking, too. I take the barr spansules (the only one's I've ever had) and sometimes they seem to last about 4 hours! Maybe a tad longer, but for me they are unreliable. I have given up on the barr ir tabs--that was too rocky a road.
I too am trying to keep my dose down. I'm going to see what my co-pay would be for the gsk. Probably a fortune. Humph!
Let us know how it goes.
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Posted by RMFlorida on October 27, 2009, at 23:41:11
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared » RMFlorida, posted by floatingbridge on October 27, 2009, at 22:57:41
@floatingbridge-
I don't think the GSK will give you a longer effect, unfortunately. Of course I could be wrong, but my impression is that the GSK Spanules are barely noticeable.Of course one way of offsetting that is to take a large amount of B-Vitamins (for example, drink 1/3 of a '5 Hour Energy Drink' every 4 hours). This does not have much caffiene (which IMHO is a terribly dangerous thing for people with ADD/particularly ADHD), and yet the B's compliment the Dexedrine very well, from a mental function and motivation.
Speaking of supplements (and I don't want to take this post off-topic, but I'll throw it out there).. I've had very good luck with a *particular* type of Rhodiola that, while a tad bit expensive, you can get at Vitacost for a reasonable price (about $22 or so).
This is: Nature's Plus Herbal Actives Rhodiola Extended Release
There is much more about Rhodiola around this forum and on the 'net, that is beyond the scope of this post, but I thought the suggestion may help you -- in the event this might fit your unique needs (stress "unique" as certainly there is no miracle fix that applies to everyone's unique condition).
To digress... This is a summary of my Dexedrine experience, as it may apply to yours/others here:
* Eliminating Barr because of the "Rocky Road" problem (inconsisent/dirty feel) seems to make sense to me, and fit my own experiences. Unfortunately, there is *no alternative*, neither a 'brand' availble, which is the reason for this post.
* Taking Dexedrine in Extended Release form (Spanules), GSK may not give you any more longevity than Barr (in my experience).
* Taking Dexedrine in Extended Release form (Spanules), may feel like a half-dose (and for all intensive purposes, it is -- released, in simplest terms, half-and-half).
* GSK (Brand Name) Dexedrine Extended (Spanules) is *much* more of a 'dirty' feel to me. I much preferred the IR. Both Barr IR and GSK Spanules cause the occasional headache/stomach problems, where as other IR generics did not cause me any such problems.
Note: To compensate for the Barr-related stomach problems, I also found what I believe may be a help. I've taken some "Probiotics" along with yogurt, at least 15-30 minutes before I took the pill, and I didn't seem to feel as bad. However, I only tested this for a few days before going on the Spanules.
Good luck everyone; I hope this saves someone else a little time, somewhere along the way :-).
Posted by psych chat on October 28, 2009, at 0:16:58
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on October 27, 2009, at 23:41:11
I've been reluctant to post lately, but I wanted to comment about the dextroamphetamine in case it helps anyone.
There is another version of dextroamphetamine -Dextrostat (only available in generic/I think its only Barr). For me, it works for 6 hours and is so much better than Dexadrine. While it may be different for others, Dexadrine only made me able to stay awake longer, and made my stomache hurt. I get no side effects from Dextrostat (the tablets). The Dextrostat seems to work on my brain, the Dexadrine does not seem to, but only gave me a bit of a speedy feeling I did not like.
Just an option for those who may not be aware. Dextrostat has to be written via the brand name, then substitute the generic. The brand does not exist anymore, but the RX still has to be written this way or you will automatically get Dexedrine if PDoc writes a script for dextroamphetamine.
Posted by RMFlorida on October 28, 2009, at 0:49:32
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by psych chat on October 28, 2009, at 0:16:58
I believe that if you research this, you'll find that DextroStat = Dexedrine. The generic you receive is the *exact* generic you will receive if the prescription was written for Dexedrine. Unfortunately, this is the Barr brand I've referred to here (although it's great to hear you've had good luck with this, unlike many of us).
Have a jog over to wikipedia and enter DextroStat, I believe that's the most straightforward explanation there.
Posted by psych chat on October 28, 2009, at 10:47:43
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on October 28, 2009, at 0:49:32
No, when I'm prescribed dexedrine, I get a (colored) capsule (and its also the generic). It's different.
Posted by RMFlorida on October 28, 2009, at 11:28:32
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by psych chat on October 28, 2009, at 10:47:43
Yes, in the past, you received a different pill.
At present, there is only one generic for DextroStat or Dexedrine. It's Barr, and regardless of color/etc -- it's the same formulation. This is exactly the point of the thread.
Your pharmacist might tell you there are multiple available (just about every pharmacy here claims there are), but once you ask them to place the order, they'll be updated by their rep, with the news that the *only* remaining IR formula is Barr Dexedrine.
Again, I'm not disagreeing with you that in the past, the Dexedrine generic had a difference appearance. However, if you compared both prescriptions, as of today, you'll notice they are identical.
Posted by psych chat on October 28, 2009, at 16:28:41
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on October 28, 2009, at 11:28:32
I just got this script filled today-there are 2 versions of the Barr generic dextro amphetamine. I got the tablet again-NOT the capsule. While they may technically have the same substance inside, the capusles work differently than the tablets. (for me - completely different effects).
If your doc writes Dextrostat you will get a different med than if your doc writes Dexedrine.
I might be misunderstanding what you are saying (maybe I'm dense today)....I see you are saying its the same formulation..but I am confused that you said:
"*only* remaining IR formula is Barr Dexedrine."
But if that's the case, why do I get Barr Dextrostat and not the Dexedrine?
And if they are the same, then why is there 2 versions of the script; why would doctors need to specifiy Dextrostat rather than Dexedrine to provide me with the version of d-amp that works for me?
Hey-I'm not trying to be argumentive-just a bit confused. If there is only one version, why do would there be 2 ways to write the script, rather than one? Dexedrine is a brand name; so is Dextrostat. If they are exactly the same, why would they be called different names?
Ok-if you are saying the 2 are the same substance - capsule/spanules vs. the tablets, I get that. But I think they work much differently-maybe there is something done to the capusles/spanules in the way they metabolize. That's why I request my doctor write Dextrostat.
Sorry if I am confusing and getting too wordy here. Hopefully that clarifies what I'm trying to say.
Posted by psych chat on October 28, 2009, at 16:38:05
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on October 28, 2009, at 11:28:32
Oh-I should have looked it up before I posted, not after....
Not saying this is the "official" source regarding what's going on with dextroamp..
But it says:
"Dextrostat tablets are equivalent to Dexedrine tablets."
It doesn't say that Dextrostat tables are equivalent to Dexedrine CAPSULES.
Also:
"Dexedrine comes in two forms: tablets and Spansules®. Dexedrine Spansules are specially designed to release the medication slowly over time."
I am still saying Dextrostat the tablet works differently that Dexedrine the spanules/capsules.
Ok, so I didn't mean to turn around what you have said-the intent of your post. I guess after thinking of the situation, my point would be - for anyone unhappy with whatever version of Dexedrine they are taking, it might be worth it to try the Dextrostat.
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Generic Dexedrine: An Overview
Dexedrine® (dextroamphetamine sulfate) is a prescription medication that is used for the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). It is also used to treat narcolepsy. Dexedrine comes in two forms: tablets and Spansules®. Dexedrine Spansules are specially designed to release the medication slowly over time. Because Spansules release the medication slowly over time, they can be taken just once a day, eliminating the need to take the medication at school or work.
Dexedrine was originally manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline. However, it has since come off patent and is now available as a generic. Interestingly, brand-name Dexedrine tablets are also made by another company (Shire Richwood Inc.) under a different name: Dextrostat® tablets. Dextrostat tablets are equivalent to Dexedrine tablets.
Generic Dexedrine is currently sold as Dextroamphetamine Sulfate tablets and Dextroamphetamine Sulfate Extended Release capsules.
Posted by RMFlorida on October 28, 2009, at 23:23:28
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared » RMFlorida, posted by psych chat on October 28, 2009, at 16:38:05
I think you may be mixing up the IR v. Spanules. This was covered in the beginning of this post. To be clear, by "IR" I'm referring to "Immediate Release" or what you're calling the "tablet".
Whether your doc writes Dextrostat or Dexedrine, if there is no "ER" or "Spansules" behind that name, then you're getting the same Barr generic. That's it -- your ony option, BARR, period.
If the text "ER" or "Spansules" (et al) is present, then you're going to receive an extended release capsule that is *not* limited to one brand (yet the point of the original post was referring to IR specifically).
The fact that there are two names (Dextrostat v. Dexedrine) is inconsequential. I do hear 100% what you're saying, and I'm also not intending to argue. I'm simply trying to explain what I've learned after exhausting every option, hoping there was some sort of variation of d-amphetamine that remains on the market.
Unfortunately, for IR (tablets), the *only* option, whether Dextrostat or Dexedrine, is the Barr generic. And herein lies the problem, because the Barr generic is terrible (which many people here attest to).
Capsules (extended release), again, are an entirely different story.
Posted by mistermulti on October 29, 2009, at 8:28:41
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by RMFlorida on October 28, 2009, at 11:28:32
Sadly after only 2 days of Dexedrine 5mg IR, I have to say that I agree with your findings. Again I started with the 10mg ER Spanuels 10-5-09,which have provided some benefit, I noticed they only last maybe 10-11 hrs, so I asked my doc if there was a IR to complete the day maybe a 4 or 5 hrs duration. This is how I got the 5mg IR. My results included anxiety/disphoria (had to take a couple of Lorazepams last night to make it through a business meeting )about 1 hr after taking the 5mg IR, not to mention what I will describe as nasty onset and delivery. I think now I will attempt to stage my 10ER and take a second one at some time after noon today, which will of course double my 10 dose for a while until the first spanuel dissipates. Anyone have any feedback on this double up method good or bad?
Posted by metafunj on October 29, 2009, at 9:16:46
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by mistermulti on October 29, 2009, at 8:28:41
It would be nice if the original patent holder could sue the generic companies for making inferior replicas, after all it makes the patent holder's drug and name look bad since I'm sure many don't realize the problem with some drugs is often with the generic.
Posted by floatingbridge on October 29, 2009, at 10:40:16
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by mistermulti on October 29, 2009, at 8:28:41
mistermulti,
I haven't had a problem overlapping my spansules. However, I have been taking the Barr spansules which in no way last 10 hours. I'm looking into whether I can afford the gsk spansules.
Which name spansules or capsules are you taking?
I agree about the ir tabs. I quit taking them. Dysphoria--who needs it?
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> Sadly after only 2 days of Dexedrine 5mg IR, I have to say that I agree with your findings. Again I started with the 10mg ER Spanuels 10-5-09,which have provided some benefit, I noticed they only last maybe 10-11 hrs, so I asked my doc if there was a IR to complete the day maybe a 4 or 5 hrs duration. This is how I got the 5mg IR. My results included anxiety/disphoria (had to take a couple of Lorazepams last night to make it through a business meeting )about 1 hr after taking the 5mg IR, not to mention what I will describe as nasty onset and delivery. I think now I will attempt to stage my 10ER and take a second one at some time after noon today, which will of course double my 10 dose for a while until the first spanuel dissipates. Anyone have any feedback on this double up method good or bad?
Posted by diego on October 29, 2009, at 14:27:47
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared, posted by mistermulti on October 29, 2009, at 8:28:41
I can't compare immediate relase vs. spansules because I"ve never tried the spansules. However, I'm a long time Desoxyn user and asked the doc to try Dexedrine because the Desoxyn has gotten so expensive.
Absolutely horrible! I tried 2.5 mg BID or TID for about three days and experienced the dysphoria and crashing you describe. Also suffered from over-stimulation and profound anorexia; something that Desoxyn didn't do at al.
Posted by mistermulti on October 29, 2009, at 16:28:00
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared » mistermulti, posted by floatingbridge on October 29, 2009, at 10:40:16
the spansuels I am taking are Barr. Based on that feedback I will get my next script with brand, which I assume is GSK ? How long do the GSK spansuels last for you? My Barr duration was an estimate, but I have not noticed Dysphoria or crashing after the Barr Spansuels disipate.
Posted by floatingbridge on October 29, 2009, at 18:29:29
In reply to Re: Dexedrine (Dextroamphetamine) Has Disappeared » mistermulti, posted by floatingbridge on October 29, 2009, at 10:40:16
> mistermulti,
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> I haven't had a problem overlapping my spansules. However, I have been taking the Barr spansules which in no way last 10 hours. I'm looking into whether I can afford the gsk spansules.
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> Which name spansules or capsules are you taking?
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> I agree about the ir tabs. I quit taking them. Dysphoria--who needs it?
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> > Sadly after only 2 days of Dexedrine 5mg IR, I have to say that I agree with your findings. Again I started with the 10mg ER Spanuels 10-5-09,which have provided some benefit, I noticed they only last maybe 10-11 hrs, so I asked my doc if there was a IR to complete the day maybe a 4 or 5 hrs duration. This is how I got the 5mg IR. My results included anxiety/disphoria (had to take a couple of Lorazepams last night to make it through a business meeting )about 1 hr after taking the 5mg IR, not to mention what I will describe as nasty onset and delivery. I think now I will attempt to stage my 10ER and take a second one at some time after noon today, which will of course double my 10 dose for a while until the first spanuel dissipates. Anyone have any feedback on this double up method good or bad?
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>Yahoo! My insurance company will supply brand name spansules (gsk) for only $80 extra for a 3 month supply. I can fit that into my budget. (My pharmacy quoted 238$ for one month!)
I'll let anyone interested in any difference I feel. (I won't receive the new script for about a month.)
Now I'm hoping I'm following the gist of this thread. The gsk were farmed out to another manufacturer, right? But they are still superior?
hoping,
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