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Posted by jms600 on September 23, 2009, at 16:33:46
This might be an odd question, but does anyone know of any other medications or natural remedies that has a MAO inhibitory effect? I want to try phenelzine for my treatment resistant panic disorder but my doctor won't even consider it. I can't move on to a new doctor as it's not that easy. So I'm wondering if there's maybe a naural remedy out there which may also inhibit monoamine oxidase up to a point, which I could try?
Any suggestions anyone?
Posted by sowhysosad on September 23, 2009, at 17:41:09
In reply to Alternatives to MAOIs??, posted by jms600 on September 23, 2009, at 16:33:46
> This might be an odd question, but does anyone know of any other medications or natural remedies that has a MAO inhibitory effect? I want to try phenelzine for my treatment resistant panic disorder but my doctor won't even consider it. I can't move on to a new doctor as it's not that easy. So I'm wondering if there's maybe a naural remedy out there which may also inhibit monoamine oxidase up to a point, which I could try?
>
> Any suggestions anyone?I seem to remember reading that nicotine inhibits MAO - can anyone confirm?
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 23, 2009, at 18:00:23
In reply to Re: Alternatives to MAOIs??, posted by sowhysosad on September 23, 2009, at 17:41:09
It does to some degree, yet it helps more with focus and sustained attention.
Posted by Phillipa on September 24, 2009, at 0:35:45
In reply to Re: Alternatives to MAOIs??, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 23, 2009, at 18:00:23
Nicotine? Really? How? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by desolationrower on September 24, 2009, at 2:28:57
In reply to Re: Alternatives to MAOIs??, posted by Phillipa on September 24, 2009, at 0:35:45
no its other stuff in cigarette smoke
'natural' stuff might be somethign like harmaline in syrian rue, like as used for potentiating psychadelics. actually i think there might be some harmaline in tobacco.
-d/r
Posted by SLS on September 24, 2009, at 5:54:03
In reply to Re: Alternatives to MAOIs??, posted by desolationrower on September 24, 2009, at 2:28:57
> no its other stuff in cigarette smoke
>
> 'natural' stuff might be somethign like harmaline in syrian rue, like as used for potentiating psychadelics. actually i think there might be some harmaline in tobacco.
>
> -d/r
If I am not mistaken, harmaline is selective for MAO-A. This is a good thing.Effexor + nortriptyline might be worth considering.
- Scott
Posted by jms600 on September 24, 2009, at 10:09:30
In reply to Re: Alternatives to MAOIs??, posted by SLS on September 24, 2009, at 5:54:03
> > no its other stuff in cigarette smoke
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> > 'natural' stuff might be somethign like harmaline in syrian rue, like as used for potentiating psychadelics. actually i think there might be some harmaline in tobacco.
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> > -d/r
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> If I am not mistaken, harmaline is selective for MAO-A. This is a good thing.
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> Effexor + nortriptyline might be worth considering.
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> - Scott
SLS - would this be effective in treating anxiety based disorders or is the nortripyline likely to exacerbate the anxiety??
Posted by SLS on September 24, 2009, at 12:36:08
In reply to Re: Alternatives to MAOIs?? » SLS, posted by jms600 on September 24, 2009, at 10:09:30
> > > no its other stuff in cigarette smoke
> > >
> > > 'natural' stuff might be somethign like harmaline in syrian rue, like as used for potentiating psychadelics. actually i think there might be some harmaline in tobacco.> > If I am not mistaken, harmaline is selective for MAO-A. This is a good thing.
> >
> > Effexor + nortriptyline might be worth considering.> SLS - would this be effective in treating anxiety based disorders or is the nortripyline likely to exacerbate the anxiety??
The Effexor certainly can treat anxiety disorders. Nortriptyline is not known for treating anxiety disorders per se. However, if the anxiety is part of major depression, it can get rid of the anxiety as the depression lifts. Either way, I don't think nortriptyline will make anxiety worse. I think that desipramine is more apt to do this. There are always exceptions, of course.
- Scott
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