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Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 16, 2009, at 22:09:25
Ugh, hello folks!
My teeth are going "chi-chit", i'm serious, just dial 911, if they have smoking section at the hospital i'll be fine.
Anyways, there is the medication the I take called Clonodine, it's for ADHD, (it's an off-label use) because my doctor does not prefer stimulants. Is this, does anyone take it here? I do know that it calms down some anixiety, yet it 'slows' things down. It doesnt work in the regin of the brain that benzodiapines do, yet slowing things down, slow's blood pressure.
I'm sweating, it's sometimes i feel I can't live life the best, because attentional problems enter in throught leaving my key's, doing things backwards that litterly drives me to where I am off the wall's, people say "stay clear" when i'm not even treated right. Well, you have to accept misery in life.
Anyways, i take .01mg, at a higher dose could if help for anxiety?
that or stick to Xanax XR
appricaite imput.
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2009, at 10:25:09
In reply to Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 16, 2009, at 22:09:25
RJ sure you already googled but here's the main uses. I didn't know half the stuff it's used for. Phillipa
Posted by desolationrower on September 17, 2009, at 10:36:37
In reply to Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 16, 2009, at 22:09:25
yeah it can, might want to try guanfacine too, it is less sleep-indcing. unless that sleepyness helps feel less anxiety
can you get nicotine lozoenges? its quite good for attention.-d/r
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 17, 2009, at 13:25:42
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety? » rjlockhart04-08, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2009, at 10:25:09
Thanks Phillipa! Whole article, i love Wiki, yet you know all the knowlage that has been in book's from 1700's should be put somewhere on the internet, (some people, or universties maybe want to keep it, in just "paper print", old studies on medication, and life.).
Ds, yea..it's the only thing that can treat, ADHD, because my attention, i get lost on highway's, key's, yet Clonodine the effect, slow's things down maybe to where you can think, or hyperactivity slowing the blood pressure, yet it's not on the frountal cortex that releases the proper nuerotransmitter's needed. I take Nuvigel, all i can say it it work's on enengy, actaully a bit better than d-amphetamine some aspect's.
I think off-label use now, is becoming more aware because of misuse. Yet some aspect's of dexamphetamine help's with life, the only thing I know when i took it, was "changes" the way you see things..in a rewarding since (getting paper work done) You don't get exicited about going to an event (well with me), because it provides the mental stimulation in itself. I take Geodon also for ADHD, Zyprexa works the best out of all. It stabilizes the mood. Thanks for the imput!
Thinking for a better society, and give knowlage so it won't be forgotten
Thanks!
Posted by West on September 17, 2009, at 13:38:43
In reply to Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 16, 2009, at 22:09:25
Yup, got it from GP for night sweats. Less cognitive sfx than clonazepam but more anticholinergic ones (tiredness, delirium) doesn't help night sweats but good norepi blocker for overstimulaion. Think it can cause insomnia so look out for that.
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 17, 2009, at 13:56:18
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by West on September 17, 2009, at 13:38:43
Yea, Xanax XR doesnt help some anxiety, then Clonodine does...
I take it for anxiety and ADHD, yet i pray for the correct medication that worked.
Just do what the doctor say's. Clonodine, and Nuvigel.
Posted by jparsell82 on September 17, 2009, at 14:16:58
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 17, 2009, at 13:56:18
I also would ask your doctor about Guanfacine. They're both a2-adrenoreceptor antagonists, but Guanfacine is more selective and causes less side effects such as sedation. They've been compared in studies for ADHD. I listed a link for one below. Guanfacine's usually more effective.
Posted by SLS on September 17, 2009, at 14:51:56
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by jparsell82 on September 17, 2009, at 14:16:58
> I also would ask your doctor about Guanfacine. They're both a2-adrenoreceptor antagonists, but Guanfacine is more selective and causes less side effects such as sedation. They've been compared in studies for ADHD. I listed a link for one below. Guanfacine's usually more effective.
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> http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v21/n4/abs/1395372a.html
Does guanfacine have the same liability to produce depression as does clonodine?
- Scott
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 17, 2009, at 18:25:52
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by SLS on September 17, 2009, at 14:51:56
Scott, thank you for saying it that!
That is the one thing clonodine causes, depression. Very similar to Klonopin (benzo), yet it doesnt work on the benzo center in the brain.
whew! i am not alone.
Posted by West on September 17, 2009, at 21:09:30
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 17, 2009, at 18:25:52
ahem, yes- there's the depression part too.
Sometimes I feel like it's still 1955.
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on September 17, 2009, at 21:57:09
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by West on September 17, 2009, at 21:09:30
yea, that delirium feeling from. I see reality a bit diffrent, but believe me it's not pleasant, everything is slow.
Posted by jparsell82 on September 22, 2009, at 14:09:12
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by SLS on September 17, 2009, at 14:51:56
> > I also would ask your doctor about Guanfacine. They're both a2-adrenoreceptor antagonists, but Guanfacine is more selective and causes less side effects such as sedation. They've been compared in studies for ADHD. I listed a link for one below. Guanfacine's usually more effective.
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> - ScottI wonder that too Scott. I still haven't tried it yet. I just went to my GP and showed him that it's been approved for ADHD and he said he wouldn't prescribe it to me yet. He wrote it down and said he was going to ask his pharmacist about it. So, perhaps maybe next visit.
That is one thing I'm worried about though, I'd hate for it to be helpful for one thing yet cause depression for me... we'll see. There are some who get depressed on propranolol too.
Posted by desolationrower on September 22, 2009, at 15:45:52
In reply to Re: Clondine - Good for anxiety?, posted by SLS on September 17, 2009, at 14:51:56
> > I also would ask your doctor about Guanfacine. They're both a2-adrenoreceptor antagonists, but Guanfacine is more selective and causes less side effects such as sedation. They've been compared in studies for ADHD. I listed a link for one below. Guanfacine's usually more effective.
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> Does guanfacine have the same liability to produce depression as does clonodine?
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> - Scottyeah, though i think the 'depression' is mostly the flip side to the antidepressant effect of a stimulant - low energy->low activity->low goal achievment, nonenriched environment, etc. probably less so, because it doesn't have the alpha1 antagonism, which causes most of the fatigue-inducing effect.
so i wouldn't like it personally, since i feel good taking yohimbe (5ht probably complicates that though). if you feel panicky on it, probably the alpha2 agonists would improve things.
-d/r
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