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Posted by G-man885858 on August 14, 2009, at 20:30:08
Hey,
I was wondering if anyone knows if depression can be worsened by consumption of dairy.
Does anyone know?
Thanks!
Posted by yxibow on August 15, 2009, at 7:04:21
In reply to Dairy worsens depression?, posted by G-man885858 on August 14, 2009, at 20:30:08
> Hey,
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows if depression can be worsened by consumption of dairy.
>
> Does anyone know?
>
> Thanks!I seriously doubt it, but humans were never intended to um... drink from the teats of cows. Most people are vaguely dairy sensitive, some are definitely.
-- Jay
Posted by subduedpatient on August 15, 2009, at 10:35:29
In reply to Dairy worsens depression?, posted by G-man885858 on August 14, 2009, at 20:30:08
yeah at least indirectly.. anything that messes with my digestion makes me more depressed.. besides too much calcium can cause mental problems (think there's documentation for this somewhere out there)..
Posted by Phillipa on August 15, 2009, at 10:44:33
In reply to at least indirectly, posted by subduedpatient on August 15, 2009, at 10:35:29
I seriously never heard of calcium causing mental problems? Is that if it's unbalanced with magnesium? Phillipa
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 19, 2009, at 3:42:30
In reply to Dairy worsens depression?, posted by G-man885858 on August 14, 2009, at 20:30:08
> Hey,
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows if depression can be worsened by consumption of dairy.
>
> Does anyone know?
>
> Thanks!
I think unless you are dairy or lactolse intolerant or allergic, I wouldn't sweat it.
Posted by Dima on August 20, 2009, at 1:36:42
In reply to Re: Dairy worsens depression?, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 19, 2009, at 3:42:30
Having bad reactions to milk is not very rare. Many people have very delayed effects from drinking milk and never know about the link. I've heard about very long lasting cases of depression which were alleviated after milk was eliminated from the diet.
Posted by Sigismund on August 21, 2009, at 0:57:35
In reply to Dairy worsens depression?, posted by G-man885858 on August 14, 2009, at 20:30:08
If there is a problem, it likely comes from metabolic difficulties with casein.
Posted by SLS on August 21, 2009, at 5:56:18
In reply to at least indirectly, posted by subduedpatient on August 15, 2009, at 10:35:29
> yeah at least indirectly.. anything that messes with my digestion makes me more depressed.. besides too much calcium can cause mental problems (think there's documentation for this somewhere out there)..
This might not be the same phenomenon that you speak of, but a single megadose of calcium will exacerbate my depression significantly within an hour. The increase in severity last for a few hours thereafter. Who would have thought?
One of my doctors theorized that the etiology of depression included an imbalance between magnesium and calcium.
- Scott
Posted by Ron Hill on August 21, 2009, at 16:44:47
In reply to Re: at least indirectly, posted by SLS on August 21, 2009, at 5:56:18
> This might not be the same phenomenon that you speak of, but a single megadose of calcium will exacerbate my depression significantly within an hour. The increase in severity last for a few hours thereafter. Who would have thought?
> One of my doctors theorized that the etiology of depression included an imbalance between magnesium and calcium.
> - Scott
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Subduedpatient,FWIW, I have the exact same reaction as Scott to a tablet of calcium.
-- Ron
dx: Bipolar II and mild OCPD
600 mg/day Trileptal
200 mg/day Lamictal
500 mg/day Keppra
90 mg/day Nardi
Posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 20:21:02
In reply to Re: at least indirectly » subduedpatient, posted by Ron Hill on August 21, 2009, at 16:44:47
What????Calcium? Ratio is 2 of calcium to l or magnesium. Have to supplement with it as arthritis and osteopororis and Vita D is fine. Tested for it. I don't get how calcium can be depressing? Phillipa
Posted by Ron Hill on August 21, 2009, at 20:48:01
In reply to Re: at least indirectly, posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 20:21:02
> What????Calcium? Ratio is 2 of calcium to l or magnesium. Have to supplement with it as arthritis and osteopororis and Vita D is fine. Tested for it. I don't get how calcium can be depressing? Phillipa
Jan,
Everyone responds differently to vitamins and meds.
All I was saying is that, for me, a calcium supplement causes depression. I do not know why. However, like Scott said, I suspect it is a Ca to Mg ratio issue.
--Ron
Posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 21:00:59
In reply to Re: at least indirectly » Phillipa, posted by Ron Hill on August 21, 2009, at 20:48:01
Ron I know just seems so strange. Must google it. Makes me wonder what's in boniva, actonel, and the other one as the last a month? Jan to you
Posted by yxibow on August 23, 2009, at 0:00:36
In reply to Re: at least indirectly » subduedpatient, posted by Ron Hill on August 21, 2009, at 16:44:47
> > This might not be the same phenomenon that you speak of, but a single megadose of calcium will exacerbate my depression significantly within an hour. The increase in severity last for a few hours thereafter. Who would have thought?
>
> > One of my doctors theorized that the etiology of depression included an imbalance between magnesium and calcium.
>
> > - Scott
> -----------------
> Subduedpatient,
>
> FWIW, I have the exact same reaction as Scott to a tablet of calcium.
>
> -- Ron
>
> dx: Bipolar II and mild OCPD
>
> 600 mg/day Trileptal
> 200 mg/day Lamictal
> 500 mg/day Keppra
> 90 mg/day Nardi
>You have a fair set of anticonvulsants -- it is not common but postured by some that calcium supplements may possibly interfere with absorption or other functions.
That being said, its best to take calcium with food.
What is a "megadose" ?
One should only take about 500mg of calcium equivalent at a a time spread throughout the day to about 2g if you are taking the maximum one should have generally.....
....but food, if you drink milk, have certain vegetables, etc, will have some of that already....
....mainly because overdoing calcium supplements has been known to cause kidney stones in those possibly prone.
It is quite rare to have actual calcium toxicity, its quite low compared to potassium, e.g.
-- Jay
Posted by Ron Hill on August 25, 2009, at 6:46:40
In reply to Re: at least indirectly » Ron Hill, posted by yxibow on August 23, 2009, at 0:00:36
> What is a "megadose" ?
For me, 500 mg will cause depression.
-- Ron
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