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Posted by floatingbridge on July 12, 2009, at 21:38:33
Was wondering if parnate was a no-no to consider for someone who suspects adrenal fatigue. I'm still in the process of finding out about adrenals, and my current pmeds are not working. Wholesale change!
Any info, two cents, experience very welcome,
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Posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2009, at 23:32:48
In reply to adrenals and parnate, posted by floatingbridge on July 12, 2009, at 21:38:33
Have you google the symtoms of adrenal fatigue? Seriously. And seems from what I've read on the thyroid link I posted as you can poke around into different categories that adrenal fatigue preceeds thyroid pooping out. Oh what a conplicated system the hormonal one is. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2009, at 23:50:25
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2009, at 23:32:48
Lucky quick find. Love Phillipa
http://www.naturalnews.com/024985_cortisol_blood_adrenal_fatigue.html
Posted by floatingbridge on July 13, 2009, at 0:05:13
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2009, at 23:50:25
Thnaks, Phillipa, will look now.
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Posted by floatingbridge on July 13, 2009, at 12:29:07
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2009, at 23:50:25
Phillipa,
Link seemed good until I read one of it's source links--Dianetics! Now that stuff scares me!
Posted by Phillipa on July 13, 2009, at 19:45:44
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on July 13, 2009, at 12:29:07
Oh Ron Hubbard good catch negate that thread thanks will read it again. No wouldn't do a thing he suggests. Wow so sorry. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on July 13, 2009, at 19:54:38
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on July 13, 2009, at 12:29:07
I can't find it could you point it out? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on July 13, 2009, at 21:38:17
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on July 13, 2009, at 19:45:44
Now worries, Phillipa--! It was funny, really. Type in tuberose.com and see if you get it. They are listed at the bottom of the article as a source site.
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> Oh Ron Hubbard good catch negate that thread thanks will read it again. No wouldn't do a thing he suggests. Wow so sorry. Love Phillipa
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 14, 2009, at 6:43:50
In reply to adrenals and parnate, posted by floatingbridge on July 12, 2009, at 21:38:33
> Was wondering if parnate was a no-no to consider for someone who suspects adrenal fatigue. I'm still in the process of finding out about adrenals, and my current pmeds are not working. Wholesale change!
>
> Any info, two cents, experience very welcome,
>
> fbI've wondered about this too. I think if you can find a way to get proper sleep while on parnate, you are good to go.
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 14, 2009, at 16:46:32
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2009, at 23:32:48
> Have you google the symtoms of adrenal fatigue? Seriously. And seems from what I've read on the thyroid link I posted as you can poke around into different categories that adrenal fatigue preceeds thyroid pooping out. Oh what a conplicated system the hormonal one is. Love Phillipa
Sorry philippa, that is utter b*llsh*t. Adrenal fatigue only preceds thyroid disorder, in people with out clinical hypothyroidism. In people with clinical hypothryoidism and/or hashimoto's it is very often the other way around.
Posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2009, at 20:04:12
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 14, 2009, at 16:46:32
Since I'm not an expert and didn't write the article I don't appreciate being talked to this way when trying to help. Think you might consider apologizing? Phillipa ps I'm not perfect.
Posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2009, at 22:04:21
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate » Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2009, at 20:04:12
Interesting From Mayo Clinic references bottom of article. Phillipa
Adrenal fatigue: What causes it?Is there such a thing as adrenal fatigue?
Answer
from Todd B. Nippoldt, M.D.
Adrenal fatigue is a term applied to a collection of nonspecific symptoms, such as body aches, fatigue, nervousness, sleep disturbances and digestive problems. The term often shows up in popular health books and on alternative medicine Web sites, but it isn't an accepted medical diagnosis.Your adrenal glands produce a variety of hormones that are essential to life. The medical term "adrenal insufficiency," or Addison's disease, refers to inadequate production of one or more of these hormones as a result of an underlying disease. Signs and symptoms of adrenal insufficiency include fatigue, body aches, unexplained weight loss, low blood pressure, lightheadedness and loss of body hair. Adrenal insufficiency can be diagnosed by blood tests and special stimulation tests that show inadequate levels of adrenal hormones.
Proponents of the adrenal fatigue diagnosis claim this is a mild form of adrenal insufficiency caused by chronic stress. The unproven theory behind adrenal fatigue is that your adrenal glands are unable to keep pace with the demands of perpetual fight-or-flight arousal. As a result, they can't produce quite enough of the hormones you need to feel good. Existing blood tests, according to this theory, aren't sensitive enough to detect such a small decline in adrenal function but your body is. That's why you feel tired, weak and depressed.
It's frustrating to have persistent symptoms your doctor can't readily explain. But accepting a medically unrecognized diagnosis from an unqualified practitioner could be worse. Unproven remedies for so-called "adrenal fatigue" may leave you feeling sicker, while the real cause such as depression or fibromyalgia continues to take its toll.
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Salt craving: A symptom of Addison's disease?References
0.Nieman LK. Clinical manifestation of adrenal insufficiency in adults. http://www.uptodate.com/home/index.html. Accessed Feb. 19, 2009.0.Nieman LK. Diagnosis of adrenal insufficiency in adults. http://www.uptodate.com/home/index.html. Accessed Feb. 19, 2009.0.Addison's disease (primary or chronic adrenocortical insufficiency). The Merck Manuals: The Merck Manual for Healthcare Professionals. Accessed Feb. 20, 2009.0.Nippoldt TB (expert opinion). Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minn. March 2, 2009.
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Posted by floatingbridge on July 14, 2009, at 22:40:24
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2009, at 22:04:21
Hi Phillipa,
This is pretty much what my pdoc said about adrenal fatigue. BTW, my spit test came back relatively normal, so.... a mixed blessing, I suppose. Obviously, I'm feeling pretty shot to pieces these days, so I'm just taking in all info to try and get a workable answer--so thanks for this post! And I appreciate your time!
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Posted by Phillipa on July 15, 2009, at 0:10:37
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on July 14, 2009, at 22:40:24
FB no problem as wanted to know answer myself. Glad it came back normal as seriously I think this means you are physically healthy. Love Phillipa
Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 16, 2009, at 6:11:07
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate » Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by Phillipa on July 14, 2009, at 20:04:12
> Since I'm not an expert and didn't write the article I don't appreciate being talked to this way when trying to help. Think you might consider apologizing? Phillipa ps I'm not perfect.
Sorry Philippa, I didn't mean to insult you. We just can't have people ditching thyroid meds or thinking their thyroid disorder will go away if they learn how relax and fix their adrenal fatigue. A lot of people won't recover from adrenal fatigue if they don't also fix the thyroid problem
Posted by Phillipa on July 16, 2009, at 20:07:05
In reply to Re: adrenals and parnate, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on July 16, 2009, at 6:11:07
Thanks I appreciate that apology and agree that both must be fixed so we're on the same team. Love Phillipa
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