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Posted by ColoradoSnowflake on June 24, 2009, at 15:23:48
In reply to Re: Thanks: Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by morganpmiller on June 24, 2009, at 14:44:31
I have had low thyroid for many many years. When I first got depressed 15 years ago they checked it and yes, it was low. I was on Synthroid for a while but just didn't like the idea of it so I switched to Armour and have been taking that ever since. Doc and pharmacist are always trying to get me to change, say you can't depend on what is in Armour, etc., but I stick with it. It does bring my thyroid levels up, but other than that I really don't know. I just like it that its natural. I have been interested in taking those alternative thyroid panels and the cortisol one, but they are SO expensive.
That's my 2 cents worth! Gayle
Posted by floatingbridge on June 25, 2009, at 19:10:38
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by ColoradoSnowflake on June 24, 2009, at 15:23:48
Gayle,
I'm thinking of going that route--that, and a cortisol test--I suspect adrenal issues as well. Thaks for your two cents!
Candace
Posted by rskontos on June 28, 2009, at 15:36:03
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » ColoradoSnowflake, posted by floatingbridge on June 25, 2009, at 19:10:38
I have taken armour since last July. It helped bring my tsh levels under control. But not completely. I went to a new endo and he switched me to Levoxyl. I took at the last time I took Armour 5 weeks ago 90 mg. It took increases and my doc was slow about it.
All the research I have read, and that is plenty says you should go up sooner than my doc did. She did it every 6 weeks.I was reluctant to switch. But must confess I feel better. Some symptoms are gone. I have Hashimoto's as well. Which was confirmed two ways.
I have had the adrenal tests, cortisol both salvia and blood and the supplements I used to improve my adrenals worked. My levels are back in the normal range.
Go to the site
adrenalfatigue.org. It is a wealth of information. Dr. Wilson is one of the leaders in adrenal fatigue and has thyroid information there.
I am going to a conference in Oct where Mary Solomon will be the guest speaker. I will relate to you guys what she says.
I have changed my diet to help my thyroid and adrenals. I try to exercise as much as possible but not too much because too much will cause more stress on both adrenals and thyroid.
After my labs the first of july I will see how the synthetic worked versus armour. I have plenty of armour left and I can add it to the Levoxyl or insist that my endo let me take armour. Some people need both T-3/T-4 combos to feel better.
In any case, let me know if you guys need more research I have found way too much out and now I confused myself.
I am still not sure if synthetic is better because I feel it will be based on how your body uses whatever you are given.
rsk
Posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2009, at 20:49:11
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by rskontos on June 28, 2009, at 15:36:03
Sent you a babblemail. Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:04:05
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by rskontos on June 28, 2009, at 15:36:03
Thank you, rsk, for the site and your experience. I'll check it out tonight (that is, if I'm not too tired!).
I have an rx appointment tomorrow with a new *holistic* doc. I laid it all out for her, what I want that is, what treatments I'm thinking about, just to see if see'd blanche, but no. So I'm hopeful.
I am don't want to argue with docs anymore about hashimoto's or adrenal fatigue!
Posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:08:16
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:04:05
BTW I'm glad to hear about your adrenals healing. Must feel so much better!
Mary Santos... I think Phillipa recommended her book.
Thanks again!
Posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2009, at 21:47:16
In reply to RSK: Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:08:16
Mary J. Shoman. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2009, at 21:49:17
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by rskontos on June 28, 2009, at 15:36:03
Yours is Soloman not Shoman? Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:58:36
In reply to Re: RSK: Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2009, at 21:47:16
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:26:03
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2009, at 20:49:11
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:32:19
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:04:05
Yeah I know what you mean. Mine new endo has this 6 weeks lab results to show me the better of the two, armour or synthetic. I have read some interesting information about some people need to augment their synthetic with armour because neither of them alone is enough. So save that thought. IT will take time because of the nature of it all, the way your body responds and your doc's views.
I am not sure why most endo's aren't willing to take views that include all available treats.I know that my new GI uses a very basic old medication for my collagenous collits and when I expressed my surprise about him supporting the use of a very old medication, he said sometimes the best meds are those that have been around for a while. He said it will help you. He is right it has and I only have about 2 more weeks on it and then he said should be done until it flares up again and to repeat the treatment as needed for flareups. He said it might, might make it stay gone. HUH I needed to find this guy years ago.
Now if only I could find an endo like him. If I need to I will ask him for recommendation or go to a holistic doc, a medical doctor certified in anti-aging.
That site has so much and he , Dr. Wilson has an excellent book. I got it and it helped me help my adrenals which are now functioning much better.
take care and good luck
rsk
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:33:03
In reply to RSK: Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by floatingbridge on June 28, 2009, at 21:08:16
No Mary Solomon. Google thryoid information and she is on the about.com site.
rsk
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:33:41
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by Phillipa on June 28, 2009, at 21:49:17
Nope your are right I misspelled her name. I always do add an extra o.
rsk
Posted by Phillipa on June 29, 2009, at 19:23:20
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » Phillipa, posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 11:33:41
Rsk why can't the doc with the colitis be your thyroid doc too? Endos at least here don't listen. Google antiading doctors in your location see who turns up. Phillipa
Posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 21:42:53
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by Phillipa on June 29, 2009, at 19:23:20
I think Phillipa because he is a gastroenterologist and I don't think he would handle it.
I found a doctor here that specializes in treating the whole person, whom I believe could help with all, including the psyche thing, he is a trained md and psychiatrist. He specializes in biochemistry, physiology and inflammatory responses that occur in the brain and body and treats the body as a whole unit to help try and customize treatment and reduce the # of presciptions medications. He also is certified in advanced clinical psychopharmacology. The biggest problem is he doesn't accept insurance.
I think I would like to go to him to see if he could handle the endo issues. Plus the hormonal issues I think are still a problem. Or is just that my thyroid isn't doing completely better and maybe it will never be better than now.
It is all so confusing.
But thanks for the suggestion.
rsk
Posted by floatingbridge on June 29, 2009, at 22:52:34
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 21:42:53
Wow. this doc sounds great (and expensive).
good luck!
Posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 20:07:07
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by rskontos on June 29, 2009, at 21:42:53
Reminds me a bit of the doc paid out of pocket for for the bioidenticals. Lady patient has my endo and says she takes armour and feels great. All I know is I don't feel great and am always wired and tired. I seriously know it's the thyroid as didn't have the problems I have til hasimotos. Keep me informed okay please? Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 20:12:04
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » rskontos, posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 20:07:07
Phillipa,
What type of thyroid are you taking?
FB
Posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 21:57:39
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 20:12:04
Synthroid. Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 22:01:43
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 21:57:39
Synthroid hasn't been keeping my hashimoto's in check. pdoc (of all people) switched me to levoxyl. (After a concerned talk about armour).
More later
fb
Posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 22:12:01
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 22:01:43
Tease!!!!!! Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 22:18:06
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on June 30, 2009, at 22:12:01
: D
Posted by softheprairie on July 1, 2009, at 7:19:42
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid?, posted by floatingbridge on June 30, 2009, at 22:01:43
> Synthroid hasn't been keeping my hashimoto's in check. pdoc (of all people) switched me to levoxyl. (After a concerned talk about armour).
>
> More later
>
> fbIsn't levoxyl just a generic form of Synthroid?
Posted by floatingbridge on July 1, 2009, at 12:41:12
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » floatingbridge, posted by softheprairie on July 1, 2009, at 7:19:42
Hi!
No, it's not a generic. I think something else that begins with an L is a generic form of sythroid. By any name, however, it still isn't a t3t4 combo--but by now I am so confused!
fb
Posted by Phillipa on July 1, 2009, at 19:09:54
In reply to Re: better than synthroid for Thyroid? » softheprairie, posted by floatingbridge on July 1, 2009, at 12:41:12
FB think it's generic never positive though will goggle it. Love Phillipa
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