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Posted by Maxime on March 16, 2009, at 21:01:39
Is Chloral hydrate still used for insomnia? Does it only come in liquid form? I am thinking of asking for it to help me sleep. I have tried just about everything except for barbituates.
Anyone here take it? Thoughts?
Thanks!
Maxime
Posted by Neal on March 16, 2009, at 22:20:15
In reply to Chloral Hydrate, posted by Maxime on March 16, 2009, at 21:01:39
Maxime,
I haven't tried it. That's an old fashioned sleep med. There's probably reasons it's not used much anymore.
Not up to speed with your history. You've tried the usual? mirtazapine, benzos, Seroquel, gabapentin, doxepin? What's your AD, if any?
Posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 1:01:11
In reply to Re: Chloral Hydrate, posted by Neal on March 16, 2009, at 22:20:15
I used it up until about five years ago yes only liquid in the states. Not many pdocs use it and no alchohol as becomes a Mickey Finn with it. Maxie how ya doing other than not sleeping? Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on March 17, 2009, at 6:11:30
In reply to Chloral Hydrate, posted by Maxime on March 16, 2009, at 21:01:39
> Is Chloral hydrate still used for insomnia? Does it only come in liquid form? I am thinking of asking for it to help me sleep. I have tried just about everything except for barbituates.
>
> Anyone here take it? Thoughts?It would be basically like downing alcohol, in fact it is used as an adulterant.
Its as ancient as Placidyl.
I would try a usual sleep dose of amitriptyline before going near that stuff. Even that carries enough liability.
Or as suggested, doxepin.
I don't recall though if you're on an MAOI, which would rule out those two.
I would find few doctors who would prescribe it today, maybe older doctors who prescribe medications not used commonly.
It really is not safe.
-- Jay
Posted by Maxime on March 17, 2009, at 10:32:54
In reply to Re: Chloral Hydrate, posted by Neal on March 16, 2009, at 22:20:15
> Maxime,
>
> I haven't tried it. That's an old fashioned sleep med. There's probably reasons it's not used much anymore.
>
> Not up to speed with your history. You've tried the usual? mirtazapine, benzos, Seroquel, gabapentin, doxepin? What's your AD, if any?Hi, yes I have tried the usual and even the unusual. My ADs are Cymbalta and Wellbutrin. Plus I take Seroquel, thorazine and clonazepam.
Posted by Maxime on March 17, 2009, at 10:34:00
In reply to Re: Chloral Hydrate, posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 1:01:11
> I used it up until about five years ago yes only liquid in the states. Not many pdocs use it and no alchohol as becomes a Mickey Finn with it. Maxie how ya doing other than not sleeping? Phillipa
Thanks Phillipa. I'm not doing that great. My depression is severe right now. Woe is me.
Posted by Maxime on March 17, 2009, at 10:36:04
In reply to Re: Chloral Hydrate » Maxime, posted by yxibow on March 17, 2009, at 6:11:30
> > Is Chloral hydrate still used for insomnia? Does it only come in liquid form? I am thinking of asking for it to help me sleep. I have tried just about everything except for barbituates.
> >
> > Anyone here take it? Thoughts?
>
> It would be basically like downing alcohol, in fact it is used as an adulterant.
>
> Its as ancient as Placidyl.
>
> I would try a usual sleep dose of amitriptyline before going near that stuff. Even that carries enough liability.
>
> Or as suggested, doxepin.
>
> I don't recall though if you're on an MAOI, which would rule out those two.
>
> I would find few doctors who would prescribe it today, maybe older doctors who prescribe medications not used commonly.
>
> It really is not safe.
>
> -- Jay
>Thanks Jay. I need to find something that works. What is the usual sleep dose for amitriptyline. I think I used to take 10 mg but I don't remember.
Posted by Abby Cunningham on March 17, 2009, at 14:20:13
In reply to Re: Chloral Hydrate » Maxime, posted by yxibow on March 17, 2009, at 6:11:30
I second Jay's opinion. It was the drug that finally tipped the scales and was the demise of Anna Nicole Smith, on top of all the other substances she was on, according to the most reliable news sources.
>
> It would be basically like downing alcohol, in fact it is used as an adulterant.
>
> Its as ancient as Placidyl.
>
> I would try a usual sleep dose of amitriptyline before going near that stuff. Even that carries enough liability.
>
> Or as suggested, doxepin.
>
> I don't recall though if you're on an MAOI, which would rule out those two.
>
> I would find few doctors who would prescribe it today, maybe older doctors who prescribe medications not used commonly.
>
> It really is not safe.
>
> -- Jay
>
Posted by Maxime on March 17, 2009, at 15:29:40
In reply to Chloral Hydrate, posted by Maxime on March 16, 2009, at 21:01:39
I could get the chloral hydrate prescribed because my pdoc is ancient (in his 80s), but will stick to something safer.
What is the usual amount of amitriptyline used for sleep.
Thanks for all your input!
Posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 20:13:02
In reply to amitriptyline dosage, posted by Maxime on March 17, 2009, at 15:29:40
Maxie sorry about the depression. I did have a neurologist prescribe chloral hydrate for me also. 5cc and sleep. Phillipa
Posted by Justherself54 on March 17, 2009, at 22:39:23
In reply to amitriptyline dosage, posted by Maxime on March 17, 2009, at 15:29:40
I tried amitriptyline for fibromyalgia. 10 mg. knocked me out for 10 hours..might be worth a try..sorry to hear you're not feeling well..hope you get the right mix again..wish we all could!
Posted by Neal on March 17, 2009, at 22:52:31
In reply to Chloral Hydrate, posted by Maxime on March 16, 2009, at 21:01:39
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Maxime,If I were taking the same as you're taking . . . and I have taken Wellbutrin until a few months ago . . I would can the Wellbutrin and raise the other or get a less arousing AD.
I found out by accident that if I forgot to take my late afternoon dose of Wellbutrin, I slept like a baby that night. I thought, "Here I am taking an arousing AD during the day, and I have to take a bunch of things at night so my mind will stop, and go to sleep".
If you say you need the arousal during the day, there are other short acting arousing things that don't last around the clock.
just my personal experience . . .
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Posted by yxibow on March 18, 2009, at 7:57:22
In reply to amitriptyline dosage, posted by Maxime on March 17, 2009, at 15:29:40
> I could get the chloral hydrate prescribed because my pdoc is ancient (in his 80s), but will stick to something safer.
>
> What is the usual amount of amitriptyline used for sleep.
>
> Thanks for all your input!10mg
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