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Posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2009, at 12:57:20
Please don't take this lightly as seriously am terrified. Insomnia for over 37 years and severe anxiety. Well have cut doses of valium and xanax at night as only time take it. Last night tired only took 5mg instead of l0mg valium and .5 of xanax and slept from 3am till 9am. Then saw the time as usually wake about 6-7 for 2.5 more of valium with usual dose of l0mg at bed with the .5 of xanax. It was after 9 and today is day for full pill of synthroid so took it freaked as no valium cause thought should have had insomnia and took 2.5mg and went back to bed and lay there worrying why am I not having withdrawal. Seriously even if you don't like me why would this happen I terrified. Husband couldn't care less he just acts mean. Another story. Love Phillipa ps could I be dying?
Posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on January 3, 2009, at 20:37:35
In reply to Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2009, at 12:57:20
Phillipa...no worries. Even after over a decade, I can take a high dose of meds one night and it will feel like 'nothing', and other times like a truck ran over me. Best,
Jay :)
Posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2009, at 20:56:43
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years?? » Phillipa, posted by Jay_Bravest_Face on January 3, 2009, at 20:37:35
Jay really? Does it happen often? Thanks for answering. Love Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on January 5, 2009, at 17:25:01
In reply to Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2009, at 12:57:20
Well, your clinical picture holding onto intracellular mercury from previous amalgams, thyroiditis, and Lyme, certainly throw a monkey wrench into any kind of explanation as to why, what, or how. It just is the way it is. Sleep better on less Valium? Fine, take less valium and sleep better.
As a sidenote, even though benzos do cause sedation, they provide a poor quality of sleep. Maybe you are experiencing an improved quality of sleep that seems foreign because it has been so long since you felt it?
Sent you a babblemail. DMSA and ALA; antibiotics or microbial herbs. Those are your answers, not the endo and not the psych. Those docs of yours can help manage symptoms in the meantime. But as you already know, their results are pitiful and not worth a dime as I see it. You could conceivably be 80% better, feel 20 years younger, in 12 months. But one striking thing has to happen. YOU have to take over the steering wheel. Disease progression needs to be stopped and reversed. It is a different mindset that merely attempting to remedy symptoms. It is actually an easier game than the one you've been in for years.
In the meantime, take less Valium and enjoy a good sleep. :-) Good sleep is not something to worry about, obsess over, or try to explain. Just enjoy it and go with it.
Posted by elanor roosevelt on January 5, 2009, at 18:43:53
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by bleauberry on January 5, 2009, at 17:25:01
that's interesting
perhaps
the lower dose is "allowing" you to go to sleep
but it's not actually causing sleep so you don't have the half-life whammy waking you upwhatever works
be well
Posted by Phillipa on January 5, 2009, at 20:07:01
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by bleauberry on January 5, 2009, at 17:25:01
Got it read it will probably reply tomorrow as got here so late and have to do my ebay posting. Thanks I'm really not feeling I even need anything for sleep. I'd cold turkey it all but then not as young as was when did it once before. Didn't have a seizure through just rocky . Love Phillipa
Posted by West on January 6, 2009, at 16:55:05
In reply to Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by Phillipa on January 3, 2009, at 12:57:20
Hi Phillipa get the same thing with benzos, seem to prolong time taken to sleep. clonazepam + diazepam are used in ptsd nightmares sometimes by cutting out rem sleep. I would try other avenues with sleep. Do you have a pet?
Posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2009, at 20:23:47
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by West on January 6, 2009, at 16:55:05
West one pup sleeps with us, the cat, and other little dog in her cage as she's the brat pup. Love Phillipa
Posted by West on January 7, 2009, at 11:05:17
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years?? » West, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2009, at 20:23:47
Well you're spoilt there with two mutts. I just mentioned it because they can help take your mind off things. How's the sleep? W
Posted by Phillipa on January 7, 2009, at 20:16:29
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by West on January 7, 2009, at 11:05:17
Sometimes good sometimes not as good. Why spoiled with two? One keeps other company. Always have two. Love Phillipa
Posted by desolationrower on January 8, 2009, at 22:42:36
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years?? » West, posted by Phillipa on January 6, 2009, at 20:23:47
benzos decrease slow wave sleep. they aren't good for sleep quality.
-d/r
Posted by Elanor Roosevelt on January 11, 2009, at 21:53:51
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by desolationrower on January 8, 2009, at 22:42:36
what increases slow wave sleep?
Posted by ANSKEL on January 31, 2009, at 20:39:38
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years?? » West, posted by Phillipa on January 7, 2009, at 20:16:29
I do not know your age... but if you have been taking V's for 37 years... I can only guess you are getting to a point where your metabolism is slowing down. Lower doses of meds are generally required as we get older because we do not metabolize them a quickly. Of course this is a general statement that depends on the drug and the individual.... ANSKEL
Posted by Phillipa on January 31, 2009, at 21:15:59
In reply to Re: Why Sleep Better With Less Valium After 37 Years??, posted by ANSKEL on January 31, 2009, at 20:39:38
Not afraid to say 62 years old. Ride bike 6 miles a night up and down steep hills without gears. I try and stay very active as was a runner for years, then a nurse, and Aerobics instructor with own business at one time. I believe if anything slows down metabolism it's the hypothyroidism. Thanks Love Phillipa
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