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Posted by okydoky on May 18, 2008, at 16:13:15
In reply to Re: Pluto Are You There?????? » Pluto, posted by Sigismund on May 18, 2008, at 16:00:52
Beautiful
On a more positive note:
I would not exchange the laughter of my heart
for the fortunes of the multitudes;
nor world I be content with converting my tears,invited by my agonized self, into calm.
It is my fervent hope that my whole life on thisearth will ever be tears and laughter.
Kahlil Gibran
Posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 16:16:58
In reply to Re: Pluto Are You There??????, posted by Fivefires on May 18, 2008, at 15:47:59
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> Where's your heart? Did your mother leave no room in it for your children?It is in its place buddy. Don't cry for me f*ckard. My mother left a stone in that place. You know I don't have a childhood because all I can still hear abuses, nasty curses. But still don't f*ck the hell question my heart. I have it despite of all this.
> I had a father who didn't care so much about how much $ he made or how much $ it looked like he made ...
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> He cared about .. WHO HE WAS .. THE KIND OF PERSON HE WAS.
And see good gentleman, I have still a father alive. Only to recall with horror. I couldn't develop that thing called personality because I was traummatised. Don't talk sh*t if you don't know.> Why did you post here? I'm so glad I'm not you.
Is this forum your private property? I can post anywhere where I am allowed. Spew the sh*t and wash your mouth. And yes I am glad because I am not a f*ckin freek like you.
Posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 16:19:49
In reply to Re: Pluto Are You There?????? » Pluto, posted by Sigismund on May 18, 2008, at 16:00:52
> They must still teach English where you come from.
Your point? I am bad in English. Should I be need to be in trash for that?
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 16:31:00
In reply to Re: Pluto Are You There?????? » Phillipa, posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 13:06:25
Pluto I think I'm beginning to understand your torment. I feel that you wish you were not married with childrean as you have found a woman that you wish to be with. Pluto this happens every day in the World. People get divorced, have affairs but they survive and kids survive. Have you ever lived in the USA before? There are many programs for people without money docs, colleges, technical schools, places where you at such a tender young age could learn a trade or get an education. Now that would allow you to continue to support your children and wife and I can't advise you on your other woman. I feel that sitting down with a third party and discussing your options might be a very good thing for you. Is there someone where you are that is a professional that would be willing to help you sort out your emotional turmoil? I feel your pain and I shed tears for your sorrow. But please keep talking with us too. I'm sure we can help. Will you allow this favor to your new Mom? Love Phillipa
Posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 16:49:08
In reply to Re: Pluto Are You There?????? » Pluto, posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 16:31:00
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 17:19:43
In reply to I babble mailed you mom (nm) » Phillipa, posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 16:49:08
Pluto yes and I've replied now a favor would you post here a lot of your sorrow so we as a group can try to help you find a solution as there is one so many talented and gifted people here. Someone will say the magic words to you. Love Mom Phillipa
Posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 17:44:20
In reply to Re: I babble mailed you mom » Pluto, posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 17:19:43
> Pluto yes and I've replied now a favor would you post here a lot of your sorrow so we as a group can try to help you find a solution as there is one so many talented and gifted people here. Someone will say the magic words to you. Love Mom Phillipa
No. I am not here to share my sorrows, because sorrows are not patented to me. All are suffering and I am just one of them. I came here for help to end this business once and forever. Now, help? No I have come a long way and there is nothing that could reverse me. Let me secure my kid's lives. Until then I will be here.
Posted by Deputy Racer on May 18, 2008, at 18:02:05
In reply to I am here you fuckin freek » Fivefires, posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 16:16:58
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>Don't cry for me f*ckard. But still don't f*ck the hell question my heart.
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> Don't talk sh*t if you don't know.
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> Spew the sh*t and wash your mouth. And yes I am glad because I am not a f*ckin freek like you.
>Please don't post anything which could lead others to feel accused or put down, and please do not use profanity on this website. This warning is offered based on your behavior in this post, and is not meant to indicate that you are unwelcome in any way.
Additionally, no one on this website will offer information regarding lethal doses of any medication. That is not allowed here, and anyone who breaks that rule will also face a reprimand.
If you have any questions regarding the posting policies on this site, please read the FAQ, located at http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil Follow ups to this action should be directed to the Administration board and should themselves be civil.
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Deputy Racer
Posted by SLS on May 18, 2008, at 18:14:25
In reply to Re: I babble mailed you mom, posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 17:44:20
Yes. I have an agenda. I don't want anyone to kill themselves when they are in an altered state of consciousness. Drunk, depressed, or psychotic, these are all altered states within which it is nearly impossible to maintain good judgment. You area capable of good judgment, but not in your current state.
I respect your right to autoeuthansia. However, I don't think now is the time. You have too many untried alternative treatments.
My agenda is to not help you die nor help you live in pain. I would much rather that you live well.
I wish I had guarantees for you. I don't. I want you to take a calculated risk and live to try more treatments. You have not tried nearly enough.
First, though, if you do want to live for a day or a week or a month or more, you might as well do it in the absence of intolerable pain. Take Zyprexa. I can ALMOST guarantee that it will take away much of your pain and allow you to make better decisions. I am not saying that the decision to kill yourself has no psychosocial background. Maybe it can be justified at some point in the future, but not today.
Choose to live WELL. Work for it. I know you have already worked hard. I'm asking that you make things easier on yourself by taking an anti-suicide drug like Zyprexa, rather than be haunted by an obsession with death. Zyprexa will take away the sense of urgency, anger, anxiety, and pain.
Stop the pain. No longer allow your thinking to be influenced by the pain.
I know you want out. Things for you suck. However, you are young and angry enough to live well despite your current thought style.
I WANT YOU TO BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF ME. I don't mind.Tell me what I don't know about you. Tell me how I have made errors in judgment regarding you.
Yell at me. Tell me how I don't understand. Educate me. Make me understand. I want to understand.
Zyprexa will dramatically reduce your pain. Try it.
- Scott
Posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 18:39:24
In reply to Pluto, posted by SLS on May 18, 2008, at 18:14:25
zyprexa is the start of a non ending psychotic nightmare
Posted by SLS on May 18, 2008, at 19:00:46
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 18:39:24
> zyprexa is the start of a non ending psychotic nightmare
For YOU, maybe.
Please don't discourage everyone from taking a drug that you personally had a problem with, especially when you represent a minority. I have taken Zyprexa several times. It helps both mania and depression, and makes an ideal anti-suicide drug.
- Scott
Posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 19:04:52
In reply to Re: Pluto » Jeroen, posted by SLS on May 18, 2008, at 19:00:46
pluto, listen to my story of what i am going trough it takes 30 seconds
i was psychosis free and happy and i took lamictal only s few days until all hell came trough,
now that i have this psychosis it wont go away and when i take an anti psychotic it will get lot worse, so when i take zyprexa now i get psychotic from time to time, its all for the money your right!
you can try of course, but its just a pain money med
Posted by SLS on May 18, 2008, at 19:07:18
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 19:04:52
Zyprexa is a lifesaver.
By the way, what do YOU mean by "psychosis"? Why did you take Zyprexa in the first place? Psychosis?
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 19:08:02
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 19:04:52
Pluto it's Mom and I'm on my hands and knees begging you to take zyprexa Scott is a wonder person and an expert at meds he said take zyprexa and you will feel suicide free so please do it for me? I don't want to shed tears. I want to see my boy better and zyprexa will do it Please? Love Phiilipa
Posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 19:09:04
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 19:08:02
yea take it .....
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 19:13:24
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 19:09:04
Pluto see we all care and I knew we could all come up with a plan to start you on you way to wellness. This makes me happy. Love Mom Phillipa
Posted by Deputy Racer on May 18, 2008, at 19:28:16
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 19:04:52
> zyprexa is the start of a non ending psychotic nightmare
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> i was psychosis free and happy and i took lamictal only s few days until all hell came trough,
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> so when i take zyprexa now i get psychotic from time to time, its all for the money your right!
>Please don't post exaggerations or over-generalizations. Doing so violates the civility guidelines of this site. When it comes to medications, mileage varies. For you, the medication in question may not have been effective. It is very effective for others, and over-generalizing your experience is not respectful of them.
f you have any questions regarding the posting policies on this site, please read the FAQ, located at http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil Follow ups to this action should be directed to the Administration board and should themselves be civil.
Dr Bob has ultimate authority over all administrative issues on this site, and may choose at any time to revise or reverse any action taken by a deputy.
Deputy Racer
Posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 19:37:05
In reply to Please be civil » Jeroen, posted by Deputy Racer on May 18, 2008, at 19:28:16
ok sorry, this is the last time i am posting on this site, has no more good use
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 20:11:36
In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by Jeroen on May 18, 2008, at 19:37:05
Pluto it's been a while are you sleeping since it's late there? I've love to hear what you think of the plan of zyprexa. Trust me. Love Mom Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 20:38:17
In reply to Re: Please be civil, posted by Phillipa on May 18, 2008, at 20:11:36
Pluto guess it's bedtime there will talk in the morning night my Son. Love Mom Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 19, 2008, at 0:01:57
In reply to Re: One more question if you can help, posted by Molybdenum on May 16, 2008, at 20:25:45
> Eat [xxx] paracetamol tablets and you'll die too.
Please be careful not to post information that could (even if you don't want it to) be used to harm oneself. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 19, 2008, at 0:09:56
In reply to Re: Pluto Are You There??????, posted by Fivefires on May 18, 2008, at 15:47:59
> Where's your heart?
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> Why did you post here? I'm so glad I'm not you.Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person. And Pluto, I'm sorry if you felt hurt.
I encourage anyone who has questions about this or about posting policies in general, or is interested in alternative ways of expressing themselves, to see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Fivefires on May 19, 2008, at 7:55:54
In reply to I am here you fuckin freek » Fivefires, posted by Pluto on May 18, 2008, at 16:16:58
I'm so sorry Pluto.
My heart is just so broken at your situation.
I know how you feel, ... but there is a child I would be very afraid would follow my example if I were to leave and there will be grandchildren I will not see, and more ...
I cannot feel love or happiness easily at this time.
I've become angry at all of it; the illness, the cost of care, the seemingly unimportance of the caring for this illness, the places like you say you fear you will end up if you stay.
I'm here at this website because all of these people, suffering themselves, put forth effort, in their different ways, to help me hang on.
(They know how wicked it is and it is most always not something we have brought upon ourselves.)
They offer their knowledge and experiences, endlessly, because they know my wish is to be well.
I don't have have much $ and I am alone and I'm not receiving good care at this time.
I've heard you say you don't want pity or tears, and I guess, I should have backed off right then, as I am, for some reason, extremely drawn to trying to help people who feel this horrid pain w/ this heart of mine, which at this time is filled with a lot of sadness about this.
It's been four years since my father passed away. There have been loves come and go. I have had homes and security come and go. For too many months, I've felt a huge burden to those I love and even to those I don't.
I don't know if it is a blessing or a curse, but in my life I am simply just not able to give up. (I am not suggesting you are doing this.) I'm trying to explain myself. I've had sadness inside for a long time. I think it was my father's death which brought so much to the surface of me, and now, a new medication I'm taking seems to be uncovering some 'aggression' beneath this sadness, and, I'm just very sorry.
5f
Posted by B2chica on May 19, 2008, at 8:20:36
In reply to Pluto, posted by SLS on May 18, 2008, at 18:14:25
i doublely second that.
try zyprexa.i KNOW you don't want to get fixed. you want to die, you want to find an end.
but think about it.
.......THEN what?
Posted by Phillipa on May 19, 2008, at 11:10:05
In reply to Re: Pluto, posted by B2chica on May 19, 2008, at 8:20:36
Pluto please let the others know that you have babbledmailed me and you are awake now. Love Mom Phillipa
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