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Posted by SLS on April 19, 2008, at 8:09:27
Have a look at Phenergan (promethazine) as an anxiolytic. I've seen this drug work when others have not.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on April 19, 2008, at 10:45:35
In reply to Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by SLS on April 19, 2008, at 8:09:27
Scott thanks how kind of you to think of me. I will for sure. Love Phillipa
Posted by Molybdenum on April 19, 2008, at 19:25:03
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety. » SLS, posted by Phillipa on April 19, 2008, at 10:45:35
Somewhat funny true-life story:
I had hayfever when I was a teenager. I had been given every kind of antihistamine & none seemed to work. This was just before the newer non-sedating ones were developed. Anyway, so the doc gave me these little blue ones one day called phenergan. On the way to school in the morning I took 3. An hour later I was fighting to stay awake. I snuck out of school & went home - just made it..!
I flaked on my bed & luckily nobody else was home. I woke up about 4pm. My first official drug induced knockout, albeit unintentionally.
BTW, I've also heard of parents giving this to their kids when they're sick & just can't sleep and also on long plane trips to knock 'em out. ;) So that suggests it's relatively safe.
Hmmm....on the other hand, I recall my mother telling me that when she was a child, you'd give your baby a few drops of laudanum to help it sleep. If you don't know what that is, it'll amuse you looking it up.. ;)
Posted by Phillipa on April 19, 2008, at 20:33:16
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by Molybdenum on April 19, 2008, at 19:25:03
Oh I read women's old fashioned novels and women used to take it for nerves it's older than chloral hydrate. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on April 19, 2008, at 20:52:27
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety. » Molybdenum, posted by Phillipa on April 19, 2008, at 20:33:16
Here's what I found as I have it from surgery in case of nausea didn't take it no nausea. Phillipa
Promethazine
(proe meth' a zeen)
Contents of this page:
Why is this medication prescribed?
How should this medicine be used?
Other uses for this medicine
What special precautions should I follow?
What special dietary instructions should I follow?
What should I do if I forget a dose?
What side effects can this medication cause?
What storage conditions are needed for this medicine?
In case of emergency/overdose
What other information should I know?
Brand names
Brand names of combination products
IMPORTANT WARNING: Return to top
Promethazine may cause breathing to slow or stop, and may cause death in children. Promethazine should not be given to babies or children who are younger than 2 years old and should be given with caution to children who are 2 years of age or older. Combination products containing promethazine and codeine should not be given to children younger than 16 years old. Promethazine should not routinely be used to treat vomiting in children; it should only be used in specific cases when a doctor decides that it is needed. Tell your child's doctor if your child has any condition that affects his/her breathing such as lung disease, asthma, or sleep apnea (stops breathing for short periods of time during sleep). Tell your doctor or pharmacist about all the medications your child is taking, especially barbiturates such as phenobarbital (Luminal), medications for anxiety, narcotic medications for pain, sedatives, sleeping pills, and tranquilizers. Call your child's doctor immediately and get emergency medical treatment if your child has difficulty breathing, wheezes, slows or pauses in breathing, or stops breathing.Talk to your doctor about the risks of giving promethazine to your child.
Why is this medication prescribed? Return to top
Promethazine is used to relieve the symptoms of allergic reactions such as allergic rhinitis (runny nose and watery eyes caused by allergy to pollen, mold or dust), allergic conjunctivitis (red, watery eyes caused by allergies), allergic skin reactions, and allergic reactions to blood or plasma products. Promethazine is used with other medications to treat anaphylaxis (sudden, severe allergic reactions) and the symptoms of the common cold such as sneezing, cough, and runny nose. Promethazine is also used to relax and sedate patients before and after surgery, during labor, and at other times. Promethazine is also used to prevent and control nausea and vomiting that may occur after surgery, and with other medications to help relieve pain after surgery. Promethazine is also used to prevent and treat motion sickness. Promethazine helps control symptoms, but will not treat the cause of the symptoms or speed recovery. Promethazine is in a class of medications called phenothiazines. It works by blocking the action of a certain natural substance in the body.How should this medicine be used? Return to top
Promethazine comes as a tablet and syrup (liquid) to take by mouth and as a suppository to use rectally.When promethazine is used to treat allergies, it is usually taken one to four times daily, before meals and/or at bedtime. When promethazine is used to relieve cold symptoms, it is usually taken every 4-6 hours as needed. When promethazine is used to treat motion sickness, it is taken 30-60 minutes before travel and again after 8-12 hours if needed. On longer trips, promethazine is usually taken in the morning and before the evening meal on each day of travel. When promethazine is used to treat or prevent nausea and vomiting it is usually taken every 4-6 hours as needed. Promethazine may also be taken at bedtime the night before surgery to relieve anxiety and produce quiet sleep. Follow the directions on your prescription label carefully, and ask your doctor or pharmacist to explain any part you do not understand. Take promethazine exactly as directed. Do not take more or less of it or take it more often than prescribed by your doctor.Promethazine suppositories are for rectal use only. Do not try to swallow the suppositories or insert in any other part of your body.
If you are taking promethazine liquid, do not use a household spoon to measure your dose. Use the measuring spoon or cup that came with the medication or use a spoon made especially for measuring medication.
To insert a promethazine suppository, follow these steps:
If the suppository feels soft, hold it under cold, running water for 1 minute. Remove the wrapper.
Dip the tip of the suppository in water.
Lie down on your left side and raise your right knee to your chest. (A left-handed person should lie on the right side and raise the left knee.)
Using your finger, insert the suppository into the rectum, about ˝ to 1 inch in children who are 2 years of age older and 1 inch in adults. Hold it in place for a few moments.
Stand up after about 15 minutes. Wash your hands thoroughly and resume your normal activities.Other uses for this medicine Return to top
This medication may be prescribed for other uses; ask your doctor or pharmacist for more information.What special precautions should I follow? Return to top
Before taking promethazine,tell your doctor and pharmacist if you are allergic to promethazine, other phenothiazines (certain medications used to treat mental illness, nausea, vomiting, severe hiccups, and other conditions) or any other medications. Also tell your doctor and pharmacist if you have ever had an unusual or unexpected reaction when you took promethazine, another phenothiazine, or any other medication. Ask your doctor or pharmacist if you do not know if a medication you are allergic to is a phenothiazine.
tell your doctor and pharmacist what prescription and nonprescription medications, vitamins, nutritional supplements and herbal products you are taking or plan to take. Be sure to mention any of the following: antidepressants ('mood elevators') such as amitriptyline (Elavil), amoxapine (Asendin), clomipramine (Anafranil), desipramine (Norpramin), doxepin (Adapin, Sinequan), imipramine (Tofranil), nortriptyline (Aventyl, Pamelor), protriptyline (Vivactil), and trimipramine (Surmontil); antihistamines; azathioprine (Imuran);barbiturates such as phenobarbital (Luminal); cancer chemotherapy; epinephrine (Epipen); ipratropium (Atrovent)medications for anxiety, irritable bowel disease, mental illness, motion sickness, Parkinson's disease, seizures, ulcers, or urinary problems; monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs) such as isocarboxazid (Marplan), phenelzine (Nardil), tranylcypromine (Parnate), and selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam, Zelapar); narcotics and other pain medication; sedatives; sleeping pills;and tranquilizers. Your doctor may need to change the doses of your medications or monitor you carefully for side effects.
tell your doctor if you have or have ever had an enlarged prostate (a male reproductive gland); glaucoma (a condition in which increased pressure in the eye can lead to gradual loss of vision); seizures; ulcers; blockage in the passage between the stomach and intestine; blockage in the bladder; asthma or other lung disease; sleep apnea; cancer;any condition that affects the production of blood cells in your bone marrow; or heart or liver disease. If you will be giving promethazine to a child, also tell the child's doctor if the child has any of the following symptoms before he or she receives the medication: vomiting, listlessness, drowsiness, confusion, aggression, seizures, yellowing of the skin or eyes, weakness, or flu-like symptoms. Also tell the child's doctor if the child has not been drinking normally, has had excessive vomiting or diarrhea, or appears dehydrated.
tell your doctor if you are pregnant or plan to become pregnant. If you become pregnant while taking promethazine, call your doctor. Do not breastfeed while you are taking promethazine.
if you are having surgery, including dental surgery, tell the doctor or dentist that you are taking promethazine.
you should know that this medication may make you drowsy. Do not drive a car or operate machinery until you know how this medication affects you. If you are giving promethazine to a child, watch the child to be sure he or she does not get hurt while riding a bike or participating in other activities that could be dangerous.
remember that alcohol can add to the drowsiness caused by this medication.
plan to avoid unnecessary or prolonged exposure to sunlight and to wear protective clothing, sunglasses, and sunscreen. Promethazine may make your skin sensitive to sunlight.
What special dietary instructions should I follow? Return to top
Unless your doctor tells you otherwise, continue your normal diet.What should I do if I forget a dose? Return to top
Take the missed dose as soon as you remember it. However, if it is almost time for the next dose, skip the missed dose and continue your regular dosing schedule. Do not take a double dose to make up for a missed one.What side effects can this medication cause? Return to top
Promethazine can cause side effects. Tell your doctor if any of these symptoms are severe or do not go away:dry mouth
drowsiness
listlessness
difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep
nightmares
dizziness
ringing in ears
blurred or double vision
loss of coordination
upset stomach
vomiting
nervousness
restlessness
hyperactivity
abnormally happy mood
stuffy nose
itchingSome side effects can be serious. If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately:
wheezing
slowed breathing
breathing stops for a short time
fever
sweating
stiff muscles
decreased alertness
fast or irregular pulse or heartbeat
faintness
abnormal or uncontrollable movements
hallucinations (seeing things or hearing voices that do not exist)
confusion
overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotion
seizures
uncontrollable shaking of a part of the body
unusual bruising or bleeding
sore throat, fever, chills, and other signs of infection
uncontrolled eye movements
tongue sticking out
abnormal neck position
inability to respond to people around you
yellowing of the skin or eyes
rash
hives
swelling of the face, eyes, lips, tongue, throat, arms, hands, feet, ankles, or lower legs
hoarseness
difficulty breathing or swallowingIf you experience a serious side effect, you or your doctor may send a report to the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) MedWatch Adverse Event Reporting program online [at http://www.fda.gov/MedWatch/index.html] or by phone [1-800-332-1088].
Promethazine may cause other side effects. Call your doctor if you experience any unusual problems while you are taking this medication.
What storage conditions are needed for this medicine? Return to top
Keep this medication in the carton or container it came in, tightly closed, and out of reach of children. Store promethazine tablets and liquid at room temperature and away from excess heat and moisture (not in the bathroom). Store promethazine suppositories in the refrigerator. Protect the medication from light. Throw away any medication that is outdated or no longer needed. Talk to your pharmacist about the proper disposal of your medication.In case of emergency/overdose Return to top
In case of overdose, call your local poison control center at 1-800-222-1222. If the victim has collapsed or is not breathing, call local emergency services at 911.Symptoms of overdose may include:
difficulty breathing
slowed or stopped breathing
dizziness
lightheadedness
fainting
loss of consciousness
fast heartbeat
tight muscles that are difficult to move
loss of coordination
continuous twisting movements of the hands and feet
dry mouth
wide pupils (black circles in the middle of the eyes)
flushing
upset stomach
constipation
abnormal excitement or agitation
nightmaresWhat other information should I know? Return to top
Keep all appointments with your doctor.Promethazine can interfere with the results of home pregnancy tests. Talk to your doctor if you think you might be pregnant while you are taking promethazine. Do not try to test for pregnancy at home.
Before having any laboratory test, tell your doctor and the laboratory personnel that you are taking promethazine.
Do not let anyone else take your medication. Ask your pharmacist any questions you have about refilling your prescription.
It is important for you to keep a written list of all of the prescription and nonprescription (over-the-counter) medicines you are taking, as well as any products such as vitamins, minerals, or other dietary supplements. You should bring this list with you each time you visit a doctor or if you are admitted to a hospital. It is also important information to carry with you in case of emergencies.
Brand names Return to top
Phenergan®
Promacot®
Promethegan®
Brand names of combination products Return to top
Prometh® VC Syrup (containing Promethazine Hydrochloride and Phenylephrine
Posted by Molybdenum on April 20, 2008, at 18:54:32
In reply to Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by SLS on April 19, 2008, at 8:09:27
Hi,
I recall taking phenergan a few times when I was growing up into a fine young junkie. As I recall it wasn't a particularly nice kind of sedation. I remember feeling quite relieved when I discovered the benzos.
Also, as you mentioned nausea - I used to vomit on long car trips when I was a kid. Likewise my kids did too so I got them a bag of crystalised ginger to munch on. They never barfed again..!
Maybe it would work for post surgery nausea - maybe not. Those anaesthetics are dynamite. The only time I vomited after surgery was because my stomach had filled with blood...!
Disgusting but true.. :)
Take Care
M.
Posted by Sigismund on April 20, 2008, at 19:48:35
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety + anti-barfing, posted by Molybdenum on April 20, 2008, at 18:54:32
>As I recall it wasn't a particularly nice kind of sedation
I didn't like it either.
Posted by Phillipa on April 20, 2008, at 20:31:34
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety + anti-barfing, posted by Molybdenum on April 20, 2008, at 18:54:32
M you make me laugh it's so disgusting. But I like you a lot. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on April 20, 2008, at 20:34:07
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety + anti-barfing, posted by Sigismund on April 20, 2008, at 19:48:35
Sigi sounds like I wouldn't either. BTW a mutual friend said I should talk to you more. English lad. Love PJ
Posted by undopaminergic on April 20, 2008, at 22:59:40
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by Molybdenum on April 19, 2008, at 19:25:03
>
> Hmmm....on the other hand, I recall my mother telling me that when she was a child, you'd give your baby a few drops of laudanum to help it sleep. If you don't know what that is, it'll amuse you looking it up.. ;)
>I've read about cocaine toothache drops too. They had many interesting home remedies that worked, before someone decided the party is over.
Posted by Phillipa on April 20, 2008, at 23:18:58
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by undopaminergic on April 20, 2008, at 22:59:40
OMG you're so funny!!!!!!! cocaine tooth stuff???? Love Phillipa
Posted by Molybdenum on April 21, 2008, at 5:46:45
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by undopaminergic on April 20, 2008, at 22:59:40
>
> I've read about cocaine toothache drops too. They had many interesting home remedies that worked, before someone decided the party is over.Damn those right-wing bastards..! Or is it left wing? Damn wingless flightless whatevers...!
Now strictly speaking I'm still on topic because undopaminergic mentioned teeth :)
Is there any truth to the idea of using clove oil for tooth pain? I am thinking of Dustan Hoffman in The Marathon Man....that movie must have put the dentistry associations PR depts back 50 years....!
Posted by undopaminergic on April 22, 2008, at 21:27:02
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety. » undopaminergic, posted by Phillipa on April 20, 2008, at 23:18:58
> OMG you're so funny!!!!!!! cocaine tooth stuff???? Love Phillipa
>Exactly:
http://cocaine.org/cocatooth.htmFor more historical - and contemporary - cocaine trivia, I highly recommend reading the rest of the above web site, starting with the front page:
http://cocaine.org/
and proceeding to the next pages by clicking on the numbers (01, 02, 03, etc.) below.Once finished, check out http://opioids.com/ by the same author, and why not http://mdma.net/
Also from the same source, there's also a good review of antidepressants: http://www.biopsychiatry.com/
Posted by undopaminergic on April 22, 2008, at 22:07:31
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety. » undopaminergic, posted by Molybdenum on April 21, 2008, at 5:46:45
> >
> > I've read about cocaine toothache drops too. They had many interesting home remedies that worked, before someone decided the party is over.
>
> Damn those right-wing bastards..! Or is it left wing? Damn wingless flightless whatevers...!
>I think it was some sort of religious movements. They managed to get alcohol banned in some US states long before cocaine, and after cocaine and morphine were out of the way, their efforts culminated in the outstanding success of prohibition with its golden opportunities for entrepreneurs like Al Capone.
>
> Is there any truth to the idea of using clove oil for tooth pain?
>Yes, apparently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clove_oilBut is it as effective as the -caines? Not just cocaine, but the synthetic analogues like benzocaine, lidocaine (Xylocaine), procaine (Novocaine), etc...
Strong alcohol works, too, but it's not as good as the caines.
Posted by Phillipa on April 22, 2008, at 22:38:56
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by undopaminergic on April 22, 2008, at 21:27:02
Covered all the bases!!!!!!! Thanks funny how phenergan became the prohibition times. Never into cocaine but had a lidocaine pump for my recent surgery not tooth. Love Phillipa
Posted by Shadowplayers721 on April 27, 2008, at 23:58:40
In reply to Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by SLS on April 19, 2008, at 8:09:27
I had this drug given to me via IV push for nausea and I had the hallucinations. When my eyes were open, I saw pyramids turning fast everywhere. When my eyes were closed, I was in a room with many quests talking to people. It was a weird experience. I can't take a lot of meds in this class. I hallucinate like someone on LSD, but in not in a good way according to the patient that was in the bed next to mine in the hospital. :(
I got very anxious, because I knew I was hallucinating.
Posted by Phillipa on April 28, 2008, at 19:48:14
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by Shadowplayers721 on April 27, 2008, at 23:58:40
Wow I imagine you did I would too. Scarey for you. Love Phillipa
Posted by chante on May 1, 2008, at 12:30:19
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety. » Shadowplayers721, posted by Phillipa on April 28, 2008, at 19:48:14
Hi, phillipa, I notice you been in this web for a while and I remember you been having said your having major problem with anxiety, I'm the same I was wondering witch one med, you try you like the best. I been having difficulty with all anti-depressant too doozoft or sleepy or drugout, but the only one who help is valium and my doct doesnt'want to prescribed it to me anymore she said it could be too addictive , I know that but I said to her I only need 5mg a day and it make the all day so much better, at least I can fonction.
anyway I remember once you said you tried a patch how was that. thank you so much for your time .
getting a little discourage here... oxox
Posted by Phillipa on May 1, 2008, at 20:04:47
In reply to Re: Phillipa: Phenergan for anxiety., posted by chante on May 1, 2008, at 12:30:19
Chante never got on the patch I really wanted to but at the time the pdoc said it would be too activating for me so at a standstill with valium and luvox. Love Phillipa what a good memory you have!!!!
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