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Posted by Racer on March 3, 2008, at 19:49:57
For a while, I took propranalol for anxiety, and now my pdoc has suggested one of the two above. The propranalol was a mixed bag -- it certainly stopped the anxiety, but it also stopped any motivation whatsoever, which didn't add to my functioning.
Any thoughts? Has anyone tried one, the other, or both?
And do either cause weight gain?
Thanks
Posted by Phillipa on March 3, 2008, at 22:18:19
In reply to betaxolol vs pindolol?, posted by Racer on March 3, 2008, at 19:49:57
Not those but because of the thyroid took lopressor 25mg and it wiped me out. It was told to me it was a beta blocker. Phillipa they lower your heart heart hence less anxiety is the way I understand it also can augment an ad. Good luck if you do try one.
Posted by yxibow on March 8, 2008, at 2:45:27
In reply to Re: betaxolol vs pindolol? » Racer, posted by Phillipa on March 3, 2008, at 22:18:19
> Not those but because of the thyroid took lopressor 25mg and it wiped me out. It was told to me it was a beta blocker. Phillipa they lower your heart heart hence less anxiety is the way I understand it also can augment an ad. Good luck if you do try one.
Lopressor is metoprolol, which is a pretty powerful cardio-selective beta blocker next to bisoprolol and intravenous agents.
Non-cardio selective (older) beta blockers are used to improve peripheral limbic functions (tremors), lower the heart rate (racing heart from an anxiety situation) and address to a degree all that the autonomic nervous system is putting out in epinephrine (that is its mode of putting a halt on things), except for actually the cause of the anxiety.
Only benzodiazepines, successful trials of SRIs, SSRIs and SSNRIs and atypical neuroleptics, etc actually address it directly.
Betaxolol is also a cardioselective agent and would not be a first line choice for anxiety relief at all. It is firstmost a heart medication.
Propranolol is really the only medication currently prescribed for such psychiatric functions.
Some psychiatric uses are available for pindolol and nadolol but I have no idea if they are at all similar to propranolol's function and relative record of safety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_blocker#Non-selective_agents
Posted by Phillipa on March 8, 2008, at 19:10:09
In reply to Re: betaxolol vs pindolol? » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on March 8, 2008, at 2:45:27
Jay so that pdoc got me again as he said since I couldn't take inderal cause of high ANA that lopressor would get my body ready to accept an SSRI cause of my high anxiety. Stopped in a few months on my own cause of the tiredness and couldn't get my pulse up when excercising and he know I ran at the time. I did not like that med at all. Phillipa ps could it have hurt me? also had just a few months before had my thyroid go. Supposed to be hyopo.
Posted by yxibow on March 9, 2008, at 0:17:18
In reply to Re: betaxolol vs pindolol? » yxibow, posted by Phillipa on March 8, 2008, at 19:10:09
> Jay so that pdoc got me again as he said since I couldn't take inderal cause of high ANA that lopressor would get my body ready to accept an SSRI cause of my high anxiety. Stopped in a few months on my own cause of the tiredness and couldn't get my pulse up when excercising and he know I ran at the time. I did not like that med at all. Phillipa ps could it have hurt me? also had just a few months before had my thyroid go. Supposed to be hyopo.
ANA is a very specialized test for measurements of antibodies higher than normal, such as in your case for suspicion of Hashimoto's. I'm not familiar with reactions between Hashimotos and propranolol other than probable increased fatigue as a guess.
I didn't quite get the whole "couldn't take inderal cause of high ANA that lopressor would get my body ready to accept an SSRI cause of my high anxiety." part -- were you saying you couldnt take propranolol and lopressor together because that's pretty contraindicated, and the SSRI part (you're not taking Luvox any more)
Which did you stop? Neither of them would have "permanent damage", you scarcely had a dose of Luvox in you and I doubt you had a lot of propranolol -- the metoprolol I don't know either, I know no doctor would prescribe two beta blockers at the same time unless they were working on saving heart patients.
-- Jay
Posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2008, at 20:01:50
In reply to Re: betaxolol vs pindolol? » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on March 9, 2008, at 0:17:18
Jay no wasn't on luvox then it was for l0mg of paxil first ad ever. No heart problems. Only one the lopressor. Only repeating what he told me was the reason for the lopressor instead of inderal and I've never questioned it til now it was so many years ago. Still on the luvox you spoke of. Love Phillipa
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