Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 812849

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TRD Medline Abstracts

Posted by SLS on February 15, 2008, at 8:25:11

Here's a URL for Medline abstracts relating to treatment-resistant Major Depressive Disorder (MDD) and Bipolar Disorder (BPD).

http://tinyurl.com/259v2a


- Scott

 

Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » SLS

Posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2008, at 11:03:38

In reply to TRD Medline Abstracts, posted by SLS on February 15, 2008, at 8:25:11

Thanks Scott are you going to join in and discuss the findings? Love Phillipa

 

Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Phillipa

Posted by SLS on February 15, 2008, at 17:18:51

In reply to Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » SLS, posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2008, at 11:03:38

> Thanks Scott are you going to join in and discuss the findings? Love Phillipa

Maybe.

:-)

I guess it will depend upon interest.

One can use that URL anytime to bring up the most recent abstracts.

¿ When the heck are you going to start trying new things ?

Please see the logic. I guess you will be one of those people who have to hit rock-bottom before doing something different. "..when the pain of doing nothing becomes greater than the pain of change..." I hope you don't wait this long.

Nardil + Klonopin


- Scott

 

Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » SLS

Posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2008, at 19:22:47

In reply to Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Phillipa, posted by SLS on February 15, 2008, at 17:18:51

Surgery next week and new pdoc if he doesn't cancel again first week of March. Therapist seems to feel that actions on my part work better than meds???? Love Phillipa. Only way I'd hit rock bottom is no excercise and with surgery none for six weeks. Maybe then?

 

Re: TRD Medline Abstracts

Posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2008, at 20:26:39

In reply to Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » SLS, posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2008, at 19:22:47

Has anyone every looked at psych drugs like an antibiotic? Just curious? As the more they are prescribed the more treatment resistant strains of bacteria are flourishing. MRSA is even out of hospitals now and in the community and vancomyacin was the only antibiotic to irradicate it. Now we also have flesh eating bacteria have seen amputations and deaths as no antibiotic could touch them. So sometimes I also wonder if antidepressants and psych med are the same. So many patients I cared for came in on one and left with many many meds and were worse. What I'm asking is does anyone think that our minds weren't meant to have them? Any thoughts? Phillipa

 

Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Phillipa

Posted by Glydin on February 16, 2008, at 7:10:30

In reply to Re: TRD Medline Abstracts, posted by Phillipa on February 15, 2008, at 20:26:39

> Has anyone every looked at psych drugs like an antibiotic? Just curious?

--- I don't see see the adaptation of a pathogen to a substance to "fight" it equating to righting of an actual body process. Lysis differs from homostasis balancing. Natural body processes are different from an un-natural overgrowth or outside introductions of a pathogen.

I can't explain why meds work for some and don't for others. I also can't explain why meds' effectiveness appear to diminish for some with time. I'm thinking those are the million dollar (literally) questions.... AND whomever CAN answer that, well, I do wish they would come forward....

I do, for myself, know my med works and is good for me. For me, it does do what it's suppose to do. I do not think there are any all or nothing rules and I do not believe not having success YET and still searching means "our minds" should throw in the towel on a chemical intervention being a good workable option.

 

Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Glydin

Posted by Phillipa on February 16, 2008, at 12:02:28

In reply to Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Phillipa, posted by Glydin on February 16, 2008, at 7:10:30

I know it's a toughie like insulin and statins and just different chemistries and different bodies and life circumstances. But the more you take an antibiotic the less often is works like little kids were earaches. I've had a lot of Moms say the meds that once worked no longer do. So I do feel it's a valid question. And the winner of the answer would definitely be rich. Like why do some get cancer and some not. As I said just a question. Phillipa

 

Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Phillipa

Posted by Glydin on February 16, 2008, at 14:14:47

In reply to Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Glydin, posted by Phillipa on February 16, 2008, at 12:02:28

> I know it's a toughie like insulin and statins and just different chemistries and different bodies and life circumstances. But the more you take an antibiotic the less often is works like little kids were earaches.


~~~ I don't know if there's a physiological reason for that that doesn't relate to the adapatation of the pathogen or because a different pathogen involved. The reason antibiotics stop killing bacterica is due to the **bug** making intentional and specific changes to make the antibx no longer effective to kill it. The germ does this to assure it thrives and survives. In the case of antibx resistance, the pathogen adapts, not body responses or functions. Thus, I do not think it's the same to conclude that how bugs become resistant to antibxs is the same as head meds and their effectiveness or lack of effectiveness.

Yes, it was a question and I thought you asked for thoughts about it.... maybe you just wanted agreement?

 

Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Glydin

Posted by Phillipa on February 16, 2008, at 16:20:59

In reply to Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Phillipa, posted by Glydin on February 16, 2008, at 14:14:47

Not at all great discussion. Continue onward. Love Phillipa but I feel they may be related. My opinion only. Phillipa ps like the lymes bacteria mutating where antibiotics that worked no longer work seems that antidepressants for some do the same not mutate just poop out. Similar to me.

 

Re: » Phillipa

Posted by Glydin on February 16, 2008, at 16:59:25

In reply to Re: TRD Medline Abstracts » Glydin, posted by Phillipa on February 16, 2008, at 16:20:59

> Not at all great discussion. Continue onward. Love Phillipa


~~~ Okay (Smile)

I see the whole antibx resistance thing as a invader vs. host situation with the *invader* morphing against the treatment to secure its survival. To have that equate, for me, would mean seeing the mechanism causing mental illness as an invader - which does not agree with my sensibilities, BTW - AND thinking that "invader" is making intentional, purposeful and specific adaptations thwarting the actions of specific chemical interventions so the invader could, uh, continue.


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