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Posted by Mishal on January 1, 2008, at 4:20:11
Wishing all a very happy, serene and affluent new year..!!I am experimenting myself by means of some really neat stuffs with extraordinary upshots. Unfortunately I don’t seem to be offering much to you guys in U. S.
I am doing well with Trivastal, but the med is not available in U. S. So, whatever I have written here so far wouldn’t necessarily have hoisted much enthusiasm among people in the U. S.
Recently, I mixed some Arcalion (Sulbutiamine) with my lorazepam to stumble on amazing results. I had started to hate benzos in particular just because of their detrimental effects on cognition, but I dare say, if you take your benzo with two tabs of Arcalion, the effect would be more than pleasing to you. What you would notice is:
You are calm, but stimulated in a good way.
You are composed, but no mental fogginess.
No usual benzo side effects like memory difficulties or verbal snags.
You are locked in a perfect sense of tranquility but still you are highly functional.Wouldn’t you like to be? Presumably your answer is Yes.
Then, if you love your benzo, but would like to do away with unwanted effects of Xanax, Ativan, Klonopin ...likes, Take your benzo with 1 or 2 Arcalion pill, let it be night or day, you can reap the best from your benzo then. Forget the Arcalion you have taken. It is doing its magnificent work quite subtly. After all, you are taking this brain vitamin to soothe the unfavorable effects of your benzo.
Arcalion alone can not produce any miracles. But It DOES produce miracles to alleviate dire benzo effects.
Check my next post to know more about Arcalion (Sulbutiamine)
Once again cheers and best wishes for a serene new year…
Posted by Mishal on January 1, 2008, at 4:23:03
In reply to Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed...., posted by Mishal on January 1, 2008, at 4:20:11
Arcalion (Sulbutiamine) is an antiasthenic drug synthesized and developed by SERVIER, FranceArcalion is a symptomatic treatment of functional asthenia. It is intended for the various manifestations of asthenia such as fatigue, memory difficulties, intellectual tiredness and convalescence from illness and infections.
Arcalion acts on the nervous structures responsible for physical activity, attention, and wakefulness.Arcalion helps the tired organs to recover its mental and physical capacities.
Arcalion is intended for the various manifestations of asthenia such as fatigue, memory difficulties, intellectual tiredness and convalescence from illness and infections.
Contraindications: History of hypersensitivity to this drug.
Side effects: In elderly patients, rare report of mild agitation has been observed. There is a possibility of a skin allergy. In these rare cases, it is enough to stop the treatment and inform your physician.
Dosage: The usual dosage of Arcalion in adult is 2 tablets per day, taken in one dose at breakfast. This can vary from 1 to 3 tablets daily, taken in one or several daily doses.FAQs:
1. In what conditions can I use Arcalion?
Arcalion can be used to treat any type of asthenia. One can combine it with antibiotics in patients with infectious disease to speed up the recovery. In chronic disease such as diabetes, hypertension and heart disease, Arcalion improves the underlying asthenia and improves the quality of life.
Apart from this, Arcalion can be safely given in students to improve their concentration and memory.
2. What is the recommended duration of therapy with Arcalion?
The duration of therapy varies with the clinical indication. Ideally, a minimum of 2 weeks of therapy is essential at a dose of just 2 tablets daily.
3. By when can I see the effects with Arcalion?
Arcalion has been shown to improve asthenia from the 4th day of starting the treatment.
Posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 0:07:33
In reply to Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed...., posted by Mishal on January 1, 2008, at 4:20:11
I'm American and I enjoy your posts. It's great to read about new medications or medications that aren't available in this country. However, as you may know, we are allowed to order from abroad a three month supply of most medications with a prescription from our doctor. So the medications you mention aren't necessarily off limits to us.
That said, Arcalion sounds interesting. It's basically a smart drug, no? What makes it any better than say vinpocetine or piracetam?
Posted by Sigismund on January 2, 2008, at 1:52:33
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » Mishal, posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 0:07:33
Thank you Mishal
How pleasant it is to read of a treatment for neurasthenia.How does it compare to Duxil?
And how does Duxil compare to vinpocetine and Hydergine?
Hydergine had a good effect on my mental state, rather than attention and vigilance (hell, what's vigilance, do we need that?, I mean, maybe we do?)
Clipper, I took aniracetam, piracetam and centrophenoxine.
The first two were OK (only just) and the last was pretty bad.
I've concluded I don't like anything that mucks around with muscarine or the cholinergic thing.
Posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 4:25:46
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed...., posted by Sigismund on January 2, 2008, at 1:52:33
> How does it compare to Duxil?Duxil is entirely different. There isn't any instant effects to Duxil, I think one has to wait for weeks or months to get benefited on it.
> And how does Duxil compare to vinpocetine and Hydergine?
Apologies. I haven't taken either vinpo or Hyd. Can't comment.
Arcalion is over the counter in most parts of the world. It is considered to be a supplementary med.
Dose two Arcalion pills and you feel activated right away. Within half an hour.
But as I said earlier, I won't try it for simple stimulation, since I have Provigil to do the job neatly. It is best in my opinion in conjunction with a benzo, to attenuate dire benzo effects.
Posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 4:34:12
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » Mishal, posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 0:07:33
> That said, Arcalion sounds interesting. It's basically a smart drug, no? What makes it any better than say vinpocetine or piracetam?Arcalion is an OTC stimulant or better call it a brain feeder.
I don't have any experience with Vinpo. But Arcalion is entirely different to Piracetam. I didn't find Piracetam either activating or nullifying unwanted effects of benzos. But Arcalion does. It can activate you right away. ie half an hour after dosing.
Posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 5:13:35
In reply to Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed...., posted by Mishal on January 1, 2008, at 4:20:11
I must add this too.
There’s a downside for feeling good. Arcalion can’t be any different.
It can make you intensely moody as it wears off. This happens at night if you dose it in the morning and midday. Plus there will be some headaches too. But don’t worry as it will pass. Try not to dose it again only for the purpose of getting rid of this mild form of dysphoria. Engage in any physical activities then you will find it easing or passing.
Posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 5:23:56
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed...., posted by Sigismund on January 2, 2008, at 1:52:33
Here's a blurb comparing it to Hydergine. It's from an article on nootropics by John Morgenthaler of CERI:
SULBUTIAMINE (ARCALION):
Sulbutiamine is a new compound that has been described as being like
Hydergine only better. It has been shown to facilitate wakefulness, improve
long-term memory, speed up reaction time, decrease anxiety, and increase
overall resistance to stress.
DOSAGE: To combat fatigue take two 200mg tablets per day, always with
breakfast or an AM meal, for a period of 20 days. Do not exceed three tablets
at any time as this very powerful substance may cause severe headaches. Other
than this, Sulbutiamine has no known adverse side effects.(Strange but this program isn't allowing me to paste the link here so I'll just say that the article is entitled "New Drugs That Make You Smart" and it's from Mondo 2000, Issue #2.)
Posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 5:28:50
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » clipper40, posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 4:34:12
I'm intrigued. So it makes you feel stimulated mentally as well as physically? Does it help with motivation at all? You don't feel that you're overly stimulated between this and the Trivastal?
I've been looking for something like Hydergine that wasn't an ergot derivative. This just might be it.
You're not supposed to take this long-term though, right?
Posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 6:22:55
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » Mishal, posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 5:28:50
> I'm intrigued. So it makes you feel stimulated mentally as well as physically?
Arcalion acts by instantly crossing the blood-brain barrier. I feel stimulated in both ways.
>Does it help with motivation at all?
No. It only has a mild stimulating effect. No effect in either motivation or drive.
>You don't feel that you're overly stimulated between this and the Trivastal?
No. Trivastal is more subtle now after one month or so. Side effects like overstimulation and trouble sleeping have gone, but good effects remain.
> I've been looking for something like Hydergine that wasn't an ergot derivative. This just might be it.
Might be, can't comment since I never took Hydergine.
> You're not supposed to take this long-term though, right?Arcalion is a prety safe stuff. The only reason it is said not to take long-term is: after a few days of continuous use, users complain of nagging headaches.
Stopping it then for a few days and restarting will fix this.
Posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 7:44:30
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » clipper40, posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 6:22:55
Too bad it doesn't provide motivation and can't be taken every day. Still seems well worth trying. Thanks.
What will you use to counter the Benzos with on the days you're not taking Arcalion?
Posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 8:42:12
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » Mishal, posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 7:44:30
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> What will you use to counter the Benzos with on the days you're not taking Arcalion?I don't take either benzos or Arcalion regularly. Whenever I feel like taking Ativan, I pop Arcalion along with it.
BTW, if you hope Arcalion can either substitute Provigil or Trivastal, you would be disappointed. For me, Arcalion is only handy to suspend unwanted benzo effects. Assuming you are in U.S hence will have to order it online paying a big price, I don't think it worths more than either Provigil or Trivastal.
Posted by tecknohed on January 2, 2008, at 15:01:08
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » clipper40, posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 8:42:12
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> > What will you use to counter the Benzos with on the days you're not taking Arcalion?
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> I don't take either benzos or Arcalion regularly. Whenever I feel like taking Ativan, I pop Arcalion along with it.
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> BTW, if you hope Arcalion can either substitute Provigil or Trivastal, you would be disappointed. For me, Arcalion is only handy to suspend unwanted benzo effects. Assuming you are in U.S hence will have to order it online paying a big price, I don't think it worths more than either Provigil or Trivastal.
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>Actually you CAN order it online FROM the US for a very reasonable price here: http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=2621
There are some good reviews on this site too.
If you live in the US then postage will be cheap.
Taking 400mg/day, a 30g tub would last you 2 & half months.I'm actually interested in trying this stuff myself but I'd be worried about tolerance with daily use, which is what I'd require. Not that I've read of any tolerance issues.
teck
Posted by clipper40 on January 2, 2008, at 22:39:10
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » Mishal, posted by tecknohed on January 2, 2008, at 15:01:08
Relentless Improvement sells it as well and they're in the U.S. so must be legal. I've ordered from them before and was pleased. They have a good price too but you have to buy more of it to start with.
Posted by trx resistant on January 8, 2008, at 0:34:35
In reply to What is Arcalion? Just a few hints., posted by Mishal on January 1, 2008, at 4:23:03
This stuff sounds amazing. Don't have any problem with with EMSAM and Xanaz 1 mg XR. But now must start Topamax. Hate seizure drugs, Allergic to dilantin. Tried almost all newer (2000) ones. They make me so dopey, no quality of life. Do you think this could counteract the side effects of anti seizure?
Posted by trx resistant on January 8, 2008, at 0:42:57
In reply to Re: Down with Benzos? ARCALION can feed.... » Sigismund, posted by Mishal on January 2, 2008, at 4:25:46
Are you familiar with EMSAM? It's a miracle for me. I am most pleasantly "up" so I wouldn't want this to make me too wired. But with those nasty side effects from anti seizure drugs such as cognition, slowness, loss of words, do you think it could help?
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