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Posted by your#1fan on December 7, 2007, at 22:12:04
no emotion, bad mood. What is this?
Posted by 10derHeart on December 7, 2007, at 23:35:24
In reply to Flattness, posted by your#1fan on December 7, 2007, at 22:12:04
> no emotion, bad mood. What is this?
Sounds like there is *some* kind of emotion if you're in a bad mood....? Hard to say without knowing more about what has recently happened or changed, if anything.
Can you try to pin it down? Sad? Disappointed? Frustrated? Worn out? At times when I'm physically and mentally overtired I feel alternately flat, and then what I call 'false depression,' meaning I know it's there because I need sleep, relaxation, a balanced meal, and that it's not the "real" depressed mood I've had before. Weird, but for me, I can tell the difference.
Did something happen at school? Home? Did you miss a med? Change your meds? What's going on, fan?
Posted by Phillipa on December 7, 2007, at 23:36:43
In reply to Re: Flattness » your#1fan, posted by 10derHeart on December 7, 2007, at 23:35:24
Boredom? That's what it would be for me. Phillipa
Posted by your#1fan on December 7, 2007, at 23:56:41
In reply to Re: Flattness, posted by Phillipa on December 7, 2007, at 23:36:43
yea phillipa its severe bordem with agitated symptoms like im just in a bad mood.
There are things that i lack, socially, like i stopped hanging out with my friends, socailly isolated, but because of that is because of depression in its self, i dont feel like associating myself sometimes with others. But in return, i get depressed, and just want to stick my head in toilet.
There was alot of things that where not addressed when i was a teen, and they manifestied into some anger, severe depression, some emotional moments because i dont know whats going to happen in life.
But i dont show it, but i think it inside. I never show im angry unless someone actually starts acusing me of something. Thats kind of personal things that go on at home.
Racer is right, im just in this "flatness" period where im not doing anything. By the way im going to priest tommorow and talk about somethings at a catholic church, not kidding....thats the last option. Alot of people dont seem to care so i have to go to people, aka, pastors, leaders, and intern i get not what i want. I get judged. Its not that conforting you know....
So i go in these states, but its really my enviorment i put myself in.
Sorry for #1fan's anaysis of himself ROFL!
but fan has problems going on right now. Just pray for me that this preist tommorow will tell me something good thats going to happen. I need someone to at least tell my problems to.
your#1fan
Posted by Racer on December 8, 2007, at 1:57:36
In reply to Re: Flattness, posted by your#1fan on December 7, 2007, at 23:56:41
> Alot of people dont seem to care so i have to go to people, aka, pastors, leaders, and intern i get not what i want. I get judged. Its not that conforting you know....
>I wonder why you think people are judging you? Or why you think people don't care? From the responses you get here, it sure seems as though some people do care -- but I wonder if you can really see that?
As for the part about needing someone to talk to about your problems -- seems to me there's some profession out there that's based around people talking about their problems? What profession is that again? Oh yeah -- psychologists, psychotherapists, MFTs, etc. Therapy, young'un, therapy -- that's what you're after. Maybe a priest can help -- but maybe going to see someone whose entire training and professional career is devoted to that one area would be best?
I guess I don't really understand why you don't consider that option.
Posted by Maxime on December 8, 2007, at 13:51:51
In reply to Flattness, posted by your#1fan on December 7, 2007, at 22:12:04
If you want to talk to your priest, then by all means do so. But I find it draconian. A THERAPIST is what you need. How come you seem to be willing to do everything EXCEPT see a therapist? I think everyone has been telling you for the past couple of years. Even I finally gave in and am seeing one. Go forth and find ye a therapist!
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on December 8, 2007, at 19:28:13
In reply to Re: Flattness » your#1fan, posted by Maxime on December 8, 2007, at 13:51:51
Maxie add me to your list as seeing one too. Phillipa
Posted by your#1fan on December 8, 2007, at 22:26:07
In reply to Re: Flattness » your#1fan, posted by Racer on December 8, 2007, at 1:57:36
Well there are somethings that are kinda going on.... i saw a therpist almost a year ago. I have seen a therpist, for many years but i just didnt feel i was moving anywhere.
No im talking about people sometimes, in life that, because sometimes when i talk i dont get to the point..... i just ramble on and on (ADHDish) aka not getting to the point. So i catch myself and say, "hold on what was i just saying?" people roll there eyes and reply annoyed.. "about..this" ROFL! absentmindedness.....
I wont be young forever, so i better just get some adrenaline going and get some more help...and face my fears.
Thanks #1fan
Posted by your#1fan on December 8, 2007, at 22:29:56
In reply to Re: Flattness » your#1fan, posted by Maxime on December 8, 2007, at 13:51:51
hey...
i saw a therpist a long time and it didnt help but at this point, seeing a priest, pastors and some advice from others. I think i will get somewhere. And that mean LISTENing..to the advice. And not just going there and think just being there is helping me.
Me shall see a therpist.....(hynotzing myself)
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on December 8, 2007, at 22:30:40
In reply to Re: Flattness » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on December 8, 2007, at 19:28:13
Phillipa im going to move up to the north and will go see a therpist ok?
fan
Posted by yxibow on December 8, 2007, at 23:45:59
In reply to Flattness, posted by your#1fan on December 7, 2007, at 22:12:04
> no emotion, bad mood. What is this?
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>The lack of emotion is anhedonia, technically.
But you have bad mood, so you don't have a lack of emotion, it sounds like some form of depression I'm not familiar with or personality disorder. You would not know unless you saw a psychiatrist really, that's too vague. Or get some psychological testing, see a therapist.
Posted by rskontos on December 9, 2007, at 10:56:42
In reply to Re: Flattness » your#1fan, posted by yxibow on December 8, 2007, at 23:45:59
Your#1fan, I have flatness but I induce it on purpose (well not on purpose as it started as a child situational device) are you doing this? You can call it numbness, flatness whatever. It can be induced as well. And as for therapy not doing anything. My therapist has told me that I have made progress the last 3 sessions yet I don't feel that way. Sometimes we want to just be better and consider nothing else to be progress whereas it is a process that takes time. So are you unrealistic in your expectations. I am. My issues will take a LONG time but I of course want to feel better now but it won't happen. I don't have emotions. Most of the time that is ok but I know I should and that is why I sought therapy. The reasons for this is very complicated so the therapy will be too and some times I will make progress and sometimes I wont but I cant be the best judge of it. My therapist has to be. Does this make sense.
I have followed your posts and I don't want to hurt your feelings but I feel you have a hard time with what advice everyone is giving you which is solid. Everyone here is has or still is where you are. So try to listen I am not saying your arent but I know it is hard. So many of us wish we could take a pill to fix us but it just doesnt work that way. I get mad in therapy that I have to fix myself. But alas that is the reality. To get well I have work to do. It will be a combination of meds maybe, some supplements are helping and therapy and babble. And I have to be ready to address what needs to be addressed or I will stuck.
Good luck. You are searching and I hope you find the answers. rk
Posted by your#1fan on December 9, 2007, at 13:30:57
In reply to Re: Flattness » your#1fan, posted by yxibow on December 8, 2007, at 23:45:59
thanks for the response. Im getting a therpist soon, im looking on my insurnace, and maybe pray that he/she will be the right one.
I think i do experience anhedonia sometimes at night. Its really discomforting because this yukky feeling of no emotion. I have found some cures for it such as taking L-Tyrosine 3000mg and that will get me out of it. But it makes you extra alert.
But yea it is some kinda of form of melecolic type depression. But its, theres not any reason why i would get like this....but now that i think of it, its boredom, with agitatedness. Phiilpa was pretty right.
Thanks!
fan
> > no emotion, bad mood. What is this?
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> The lack of emotion is anhedonia, technically.
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> But you have bad mood, so you don't have a lack of emotion, it sounds like some form of depression I'm not familiar with or personality disorder. You would not know unless you saw a psychiatrist really, that's too vague. Or get some psychological testing, see a therapist.
Posted by your#1fan on December 9, 2007, at 13:35:31
In reply to Re: Flattness, posted by rskontos on December 9, 2007, at 10:56:42
Thank you for the response about your situation. I read it. Though some about it.
I know alot of times this advice is solid, and that is why i take it in. And make sure i respond to everyone, if i can..
Thanks for your long response. I appriciate it.
your#1fan
Posted by Racer on December 9, 2007, at 14:05:11
In reply to Re: Flattness- yxibow, posted by your#1fan on December 9, 2007, at 13:30:57
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> But yea it is some kinda of form of melecolic type depression.No, what you've described has never fit any description of melancholic depression that I've ever read. You become agitated, and at least hypomanic -- or possibly full blown manic. You're also hypersensitive to perceived rejection, again, not typical of melancholic depression.
>>but now that i think of it, its boredom, with agitatedness.
OK, that sounds much more accurate. You have a low tolerance for boredom, and a history of agitation. That is not symptomatic of melancholic depression.
The rejection sensitivity might be symptomatic of atypical depression, but combined with the agitation, the apparent temper tantrums you've displayed or reported here, the wild swings from "I'm doing great" to "I'm the most depressed person here," I'd vote for either some flavor of bipolar or a personality disorder. Either way, taking Prozac isn't cutting it for you, clearly. And either way, medications alone won't teach you the coping skills that will do you the most good.
By the way, boredom is part of life. It's not pathological. There's no diagnostic code for boredom. It's something most all of us have to learn to cope with -- and for some people, that's harder than for others. Therapy will help with it, if you choose to make the effort.
Here's something I've learned over the years: no one will improve, with any treatment out there, unless or until he or she is ready to make that choice. Until one is ready to make the effort to change, until one is ready to work at therapy and work at practicing new coping skills, nothing will change. The choice is always our own -- is it worth the effort to make changes, or am I going to stay where I am now?
Maybe a new question for you to ask yourself is this: what is it you're getting out of your current situation and current condition that prevents you from seeking meaningful help? If you weren't getting something out of it, you'd have chosen to take action long ago...
Posted by Phillipa on December 9, 2007, at 17:38:39
In reply to Re: Flattness- yxibow » your#1fan, posted by Racer on December 9, 2007, at 14:05:11
Fan all for you getting help up North but why? There must be good therapists where you are. And what Racer said is a very good description of your past behavior. Agree with those two dianoses's too. Phillipa
Posted by your#1fan on December 10, 2007, at 0:21:08
In reply to Re: Flattness- yxibow » your#1fan, posted by Racer on December 9, 2007, at 14:05:11
racer babblemail me for sure or will babblemail you.
Listen, it seems your putting me as a person that is very mentally ill. I have put many of my pasts ways behind me, im a new person. I accepted to put on new persona, a very kind persona, and concerned. But i still have to work on some "past ties" that lead to the past. And racer, i have changed some of my ways i see things, i dont react really fast if someone said something rude or something. I've matured in that aspect.
I set a new road for myself, a new view. And what other things that have been done, are over with.
Let me try to see what your trying to tell me in this....
mmmmm k
i just read some more. I do have mood swings, i used to. Right now is a time of change. A new horizen in my view. I dont want to look back at my old ways because i may fall into them. Now, im not really, its just it seems your very direct and bringing up things that i do know about in the past, but it seems your trying to use it against me? no no no nevermind. I misinterpret things....sometiems..
Im looking on my insurace, and everyhting. Motivation to change is something that is hard when your comforted withyourelf. But if your not your stuck in a box, and if you dont have motivation to change....your going to be "not happy" with your life. I've learned this, this is insight that i have found. And that something i just realized...you know? kinda? little bit?
So thank you for your response back this. I didnt exepct it...
thanks
your#1fan
Posted by your#1fan on December 10, 2007, at 0:25:57
In reply to Re: Flattness- yxibow, posted by Phillipa on December 9, 2007, at 17:38:39
i was joking...sometimes i have to let things out in a joke and here sometimes there not taken the way i wanted people to react to them. Its to get out stress, i like to think of things that are entertaining, that my vent.
I am getting help, yes i know i am a bit nuertoic, well not here but definently in real life, in my classes...i just can make a situation a situation you know what i mean!
And the time of night....is time for a babblemail (everyone say YAY!)
your#1fan
Posted by rskontos on December 10, 2007, at 8:01:36
In reply to Re: Flattness- yxibow - racer, posted by your#1fan on December 10, 2007, at 0:21:08
#1fan, you seem to be saying to Racer you are comfortable with yourself and not motivated to change unless I read it wrong or misinterpretated it, and if so I am sorry. but in all your previous posts on this board you seemed to be so upset and in your posts to other boards to seem to be in a very dark place. Or was that just at the time when you couldn't find your keys, etc. Maybe we were seeing a mood swing and not you when you went back down. I don't think Racer is saying you are mentally ill. Hey I don't think saying anyone mentally ill is a bad thing. I think I am and my family would be appalled to learn I think that. They think I am fine, they just are in denial. That said, there is no shame in admitting you have some issues or problems that lead to therapy or seek advice. I don't think her post meant that at all.
We are just trying to help you see that maybe yourself one way when in fact you have symptoms of a different type. I know that I was freaking out about an issue not to long ago and Babblers helped me see that it wasnt my past issues that was affecting how I was seeing or rather dreading seeing my family but something everyone has problems with.
Sometimes we are too sensitive toward things close to us and can't see the real problem. I think maybe that is what she was trying to help you with.
Anyway, I hope you are feeling better now and have had some insights into what is making things seem so hard. Good luck. rk
Posted by Racer on December 10, 2007, at 9:40:49
In reply to Re: Flattness- yxibow - racer, posted by your#1fan on December 10, 2007, at 0:21:08
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> Listen, it seems your putting me as a person that is very mentally ill.If you're reading what I wrote and getting that out of it, then you've misinterpreted it. I was telling you that what you post on the boards here in no way resembles melancholic depression -- which is what you described it as. I then offered two other options for diagnoses which might fit better.
And I suggested that the best fit, from what you write, was something that doesn't have a diagnostic code attached to it, but does improve with therapy, to teach better coping skills.
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> i just read some more. I do have mood swings, i used to. Now, im not really, its just it seems your very direct and bringing up things that i do know about in the past, but it seems your trying to use it against me? no no no nevermind. I misinterpret things....sometiems..Yes, you do have a history of misinterpreting things. By now, I would hope you'd have figured out I had your well-being in mind when I take the time to write. I'm not using anything against you, because I'm not against you -- although I do start to feel frustrated when I see you asking the same questions over and over, and never see you acting on the answers you're given. That's why I wrote what I did about choosing to change.
Until you make the choice that you're going to change your pattern, it's unlikely you will change your pattern. I hope I can become more accepting of that.
Posted by Maxime on December 10, 2007, at 16:42:12
In reply to Re: Flattness- yxibow - racer » your#1fan, posted by Racer on December 10, 2007, at 9:40:49
I feel the same way, Racer. So much time giving the same advice and no action on his part. I am giving up and saving my breath. You should do the same. :)
Maxime
I'm not using anything against you, because I'm not against you -- although I do start to feel frustrated when I see you asking the same questions over and over, and never see you acting on the answers you're given. That's why I wrote what I did about choosing to change.
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> Until you make the choice that you're going to change your pattern, it's unlikely you will change your pattern. I hope I can become more accepting of that.
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Posted by your#1fan on December 11, 2007, at 0:56:21
In reply to Re: Flattness- yxibow - racer » Racer, posted by Maxime on December 10, 2007, at 16:42:12
listen im doing my best to try and improve. Maxime, i appriaciate you posting to my posts, and through all the posts you have been through with me and racer, and phillipa, i am glad that there was some one here that at least cared to give me advice!
Ok, Please please. I have a new situation that happened, i want you to read.
No posts here that i read go un thought about, im already im my tails to get a therpist! ok.
Listen i already have enough stress in mylife. But still thank you for posting.
fan
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