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Posted by Maxime on October 24, 2007, at 20:51:32
I was prescribed 30 mg of temazepam for sleep because I went several nights without sleep. 30 mg did nothing. 60 mg nothing. 90 mg gave me 2 hours sleep. I took 120 mg an hour ago and I feel nothing.
I am losing my mind.
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2007, at 20:58:26
In reply to Temazepam is useless, posted by Maxime on October 24, 2007, at 20:51:32
Maxie is that all you're on now? Just a benzo as I had a paradoxical reaction from just benzos this summer and couldn't sleep for two weeks. I couldn't believe it. Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on October 24, 2007, at 21:04:48
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2007, at 20:58:26
> Maxie is that all you're on now? Just a benzo as I had a paradoxical reaction from just benzos this summer and couldn't sleep for two weeks. I couldn't believe it. Phillipa
For sleep I take Klonopin and tryptophan. Yemazepam was added last week because I am in a sleep cisis. I expected great things from this med. And I shouldn't be taking 120 mg of it either, but I am desperate.
Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2007, at 21:43:38
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on October 24, 2007, at 21:04:48
I know. I have no suggestions. Maybe call the hospital. But know you probably won't. What's worked in the past? Love Phillipa
Posted by your#1fan on October 24, 2007, at 22:31:01
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 24, 2007, at 20:58:26
I take Temazepam and Xanax together if i cant sleep. 30mg and 2mg, with zyprexa.Ask your doctor about Xanax.Isnt it time really now for Nembutal? is it availiable in cananda?
Maxime call your doctor and tell him this crisis. Go to a to hospital and maybe ask for immidate "sedation"
Are there drugs that just, well i know they put you out, during surgury......such as versed.Nembutal with Seroquel i would think would be the bestl.
But nembutal does have a toxity level. So you cant keep on taking it if it doesnt work.
Try honey with your benzo it will increase the effect.
ure#1fan
Posted by Mishal on October 25, 2007, at 4:49:28
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless, posted by your#1fan on October 24, 2007, at 22:31:01
> Try honey with your benzo it will increase the effect.
Good advise for treatment resistant insomniacs I think. When I took a small dose of Xanax with honey, it was like I took the maximum dose of Trazodone or Seroquel.
Posted by JayBTV2 on October 25, 2007, at 9:28:35
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless » your#1fan, posted by Mishal on October 25, 2007, at 4:49:28
Trazodone and Seroquel have always done the trick for me. I still take 50 to 100mg of Seroquel at night and it always knocks me out.
Zyprexa was also pretty good in the past but I gained a lot of weight quick so I got off it.
Posted by Maxime on October 25, 2007, at 18:03:35
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless, posted by JayBTV2 on October 25, 2007, at 9:28:35
Thanks for the ideas. I think I will take it with honey tonight! Who discovered that?
Sleepy Maxime
Posted by Phillipa on October 25, 2007, at 19:12:12
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless » your#1fan, posted by Mishal on October 25, 2007, at 4:49:28
Really never heard of that. Thanks Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on October 25, 2007, at 19:13:34
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless, posted by Maxime on October 25, 2007, at 18:03:35
Maxie did you sleep? Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on October 26, 2007, at 13:18:11
In reply to Temazepam is useless, posted by Maxime on October 24, 2007, at 20:51:32
> I was prescribed 30 mg of temazepam for sleep because I went several nights without sleep. 30 mg did nothing. 60 mg nothing. 90 mg gave me 2 hours sleep. I took 120 mg an hour ago and I feel nothing.
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> I am losing my mind.
>
> MaximeRestoril is a week sleep agent and a metabolite of Valium. If you take any benzodiazepines regularly besides it, it may not work very well.
Dalmane (flurazepam) is pretty potent but shouldn't be used regularly like other benzodiazepine sleep agents.
Basically, ultimately there is no "free lunch" I've discovered in insomnia. If you can reset your clock by staying up for periods of days while that while maybe impractical, might give you better respite. I understand its hard to manage sleep.
Doxepin (sinequan) is another choice though it can give odd chills and other sensations. It, however, is the tricyclic with least side effects and nearly no D2 issues. It will also habituate quickly but allow one to return back to sleep even if it doesnt actually seem to "work". First taking it depending on one's sensitivity can knock one out for quite a while but it goes down quickly.
If you've never taken Seroquel, at least on the short run, 12.5mg or 25mg would probably suffice just enough and runs a very low risk of potential neuroleptic effects that a higher dose would.
Posted by Maxime on October 26, 2007, at 19:36:52
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless » Maxime, posted by yxibow on October 26, 2007, at 13:18:11
Thank you for the information. I take Klonopin nightly so maybe that is why the Restoril did not work.
Seroquel makes me lactate, even at a low dosage.
Maybe Dalmane ... will have to look it up.
Thanks again!
Maxime
>
> Restoril is a week sleep agent and a metabolite of Valium. If you take any benzodiazepines regularly besides it, it may not work very well.
>
> Dalmane (flurazepam) is pretty potent but shouldn't be used regularly like other benzodiazepine sleep agents.
>
> Basically, ultimately there is no "free lunch" I've discovered in insomnia. If you can reset your clock by staying up for periods of days while that while maybe impractical, might give you better respite. I understand its hard to manage sleep.
>
> Doxepin (sinequan) is another choice though it can give odd chills and other sensations. It, however, is the tricyclic with least side effects and nearly no D2 issues. It will also habituate quickly but allow one to return back to sleep even if it doesnt actually seem to "work". First taking it depending on one's sensitivity can knock one out for quite a while but it goes down quickly.
>
> If you've never taken Seroquel, at least on the short run, 12.5mg or 25mg would probably suffice just enough and runs a very low risk of potential neuroleptic effects that a higher dose would.
>
Posted by Maxime on October 27, 2007, at 19:19:16
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless » yxibow, posted by Maxime on October 26, 2007, at 19:36:52
Took 60 mg with honey ... nothing.
Maxime
> >
> > Restoril is a week sleep agent and a metabolite of Valium. If you take any benzodiazepines regularly besides it, it may not work very well.
> >
> > Dalmane (flurazepam) is pretty potent but shouldn't be used regularly like other benzodiazepine sleep agents.
> >
> > Basically, ultimately there is no "free lunch" I've discovered in insomnia. If you can reset your clock by staying up for periods of days while that while maybe impractical, might give you better respite. I understand its hard to manage sleep.
> >
> > Doxepin (sinequan) is another choice though it can give odd chills and other sensations. It, however, is the tricyclic with least side effects and nearly no D2 issues. It will also habituate quickly but allow one to return back to sleep even if it doesnt actually seem to "work". First taking it depending on one's sensitivity can knock one out for quite a while but it goes down quickly.
> >
> > If you've never taken Seroquel, at least on the short run, 12.5mg or 25mg would probably suffice just enough and runs a very low risk of potential neuroleptic effects that a higher dose would.
> >
>
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Posted by cactus on October 28, 2007, at 1:43:05
In reply to Re: Temazepam is useless even with honey, posted by Maxime on October 27, 2007, at 19:19:16
see if you can get some mogadon (nitrazepam)
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