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Posted by linkadge on March 27, 2007, at 21:47:58
I want my amygdala burned out.
Linkadge
Posted by KayeBaby on March 28, 2007, at 1:47:00
In reply to Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by linkadge on March 27, 2007, at 21:47:58
I sae that heading and being new to the medical field, I was like-what the heck is that one!
Bless you, Linkadge. My amalawhatcha sucks too!
Peace,
Kaye
Posted by med_empowered on March 28, 2007, at 12:32:49
In reply to Re: Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by KayeBaby on March 28, 2007, at 1:47:00
I've read that data on "improved" psychosurgery. Still sucks. I'm sorry you're feeling like sh!t, but I think the best approach would be to work *with* your brain, rather than paying someone to destroy parts of it (no matter how "precise" this destruction may be). Hope you feel better.
Posted by linkadge on March 28, 2007, at 13:05:19
In reply to new-fangled lobotomy, posted by med_empowered on March 28, 2007, at 12:32:49
Well, it is a half joke. It would be nice if somebody was able to, with some degree of precision, cut out the parts of my brain that generate such negative emotions.
I would venture to guess that even the SST allows for more emotional freedom than conventional medication therapies.
Linkadge
Posted by Ines on March 28, 2007, at 14:53:54
In reply to Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by linkadge on March 27, 2007, at 21:47:58
Yes, I want a refund on mine- definitely a manufacturing fault!
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 28, 2007, at 14:54:34
In reply to Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by linkadge on March 27, 2007, at 21:47:58
Hi Link,
You don't want anything burning out, trust me.
Ed (ed_uk)
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 28, 2007, at 14:55:34
In reply to new-fangled lobotomy, posted by med_empowered on March 28, 2007, at 12:32:49
Hi Med
>than paying someone to destroy parts of it
Well that's the thing. Once destroyed, you can't undestroy it.
Ed
Posted by linkadge on March 28, 2007, at 15:29:53
In reply to Re: new-fangled lobotomy, posted by kaleidoscope on March 28, 2007, at 14:55:34
To be fearless would be great. I suppose there could be a King Midas like catch, but I'd still do it.
Linkadge
Posted by Tom Twilight on March 28, 2007, at 15:45:01
In reply to Re: new-fangled lobotomy, posted by linkadge on March 28, 2007, at 15:29:53
I want a new brain!
Mine isn't great, but it was a hell of a lot better before I broke it!
(See my Latest Post)
Posted by Tom Twilight on March 28, 2007, at 15:50:02
In reply to Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by linkadge on March 27, 2007, at 21:47:58
Seriously its good to know that there's some kind of
hope left for us.
I'd consider Surgery as a last resort, seems better than suicide I suppose.........Just to be depressing I remember reading about the case of a man who had lessions of his Amagdyla & still had Panic Attacks!
Posted by linkadge on March 28, 2007, at 17:42:36
In reply to Re: Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by Tom Twilight on March 28, 2007, at 15:50:02
I suppose it depends on the location, the size etc.
I remember watching a documentary on SST. One guy had it, and it didn't work, but then a second operation to make the holes larger worked well, and he needed no medication. He didn't report much adverse affect nor did his wife. He had been clinically depressed for 15+ years.
He basically reported that the intensity of his negativity was greatly diminished, ie less depth to it.
I don't think SST directly targets the amygdala, but connections between amydgala and hippocampus or something.
But you're right, there are no guarentees!!
Posted by chiron on March 28, 2007, at 20:17:43
In reply to Re: new-fangled lobotomy, posted by linkadge on March 28, 2007, at 13:05:19
thanks, you gave me a smile through my tears. I want mine burned too, or a new brain - although I do like my intellectual side. The emotional side is just completely retarded.
Posted by FredPotter on March 29, 2007, at 15:52:39
In reply to Re: Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy » linkadge, posted by Ines on March 28, 2007, at 14:53:54
Me too - OUT with it! And I'd ceremonially burn it, or make a kebab with it. Trouble is we'd go around petting tigers, walking under steam rollers, forming conga lines and conga-ing of cliffs
Fred
Posted by linkadge on March 30, 2007, at 14:08:49
In reply to Re: Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy » Ines, posted by FredPotter on March 29, 2007, at 15:52:39
>Trouble is we'd go around petting tigers, >walking under steam rollers, forming conga lines >and conga-ing of cliffs
Very funny.
But, I'm not sure. One needn't experience fear in order to be rational. Not to get rid of all pain, just fear. You'd still need to learn from mistakes, but just not in such a negative way.
I think it would force us to be more rational.
For instance, just because I don't fear death, doesn't mean I would necessarily take live endangering risks. In order to do that I would also need to have little regard for life.
Linkadge
Posted by deniseuk190466 on April 1, 2007, at 11:27:18
In reply to Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by linkadge on March 27, 2007, at 21:47:58
Linkadge,
You suprise me, (although I know what you said was partly tongue in cheek) but you who is so against something like ECT!
Wouldn't you be better off trying something like Deep Brain Stimulation first? Istn't that supposed to be reversible?
Denise
Posted by linkadge on April 1, 2007, at 14:18:15
In reply to Re: Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by deniseuk190466 on April 1, 2007, at 11:27:18
The way I see it is there is a big difference. The SST proceedure only affects a very discreet brain region.
ECT produces a lot of collateral dammage. It can wreak serious havok with the integrity of brain cell functionality throughout the entire brain for a long time if not permanantly.
We are in a period of increasing awareness of the effects of conventional tretments for various disorders. The type of imaging was simply not available 20 years ago capable of attaining an accurate picture of the distructive effects of ECT.
I am putting my money on the notion that ECT will be removed as an option within the next 10 years.
Linkadge
Posted by FredPotter on April 1, 2007, at 23:09:06
In reply to Re: Stereotactic subcaudate tractonomy, posted by linkadge on March 30, 2007, at 14:08:49
I agree. Evolution has provided fear as a very blunt instrument. Perhaps in this so-called Post-Darwinian Age, as you so rightly imply, we can engineer something to protect us from danger that doesn't hurt so much. Fear STINKS!
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