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Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 11:18:25
In reply to Re: Oh no, Accutane x Mood » ralphrost, posted by Declan on February 12, 2007, at 0:48:09
> Dunno Ralph
> But someone here said tianeptine dried out his skin.the skin thing
i wondered why it took a sudden turn
nyc is brutal on the skin in the winter but my skin is over the top
maybe fish oils will help
how about bruising?
Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 11:22:53
In reply to Re: just started tianeptine » elanor roosevelt, posted by liliths on February 12, 2007, at 9:27:30
>I am still on 3xhalf tabs of tianeptine and
2x 5g adderall
the ADD med i talked my way into as a way to extend the effectivenes of lexapro
it did not work that way
the lexapro slammed me
however, i have always known i am ADD just never could convince the doctors
now i can read non fiction for more than 30 seconds at a time
and i immediately stopped biting my nails and bothering my cuticles (side effect of life and lexapro)
so i am hopeful. thinking i might decrease the adderall as i increase tianeptine - still figuring it all out -- timed it badly yesterday and had a number of hours being pretty ticked off at the universe.
tried to stick with the mantra: it's just the meds, it's just the medsare your medical problems going to keep you housebound?
hi elanor,
>
> thanks for the sympathy... it goes a long way. I managed to get out over the weekend but now have some health issues which will probably be the only thing I attend to this week... sigh
>
> that said, I am trying splitting my dose of focalin since the tianeptine seems to work well with it. I had oral surgery this morning, saw no reason to take both pills for that! so I figured I'd take the other focalin in the afternoon with the other taineptine and maybe drop the wellbutrin. It goes against my training of only changing one thing at a time LOL but that said, I'm getting impatient.
>
> I hope to get more mileage from the focalin timewise that way but I also don't want to compromise what it does for me now. The last time I tried cutting the dose, it took 5 days before I noticed the difference and it was really bad. Only this time I'm attempting to just spread it out. I hope it works
>
> I hope the tianeptine is helping you. I think you made a good choice not bothering with the paxil. Are you still taking only 1/2 tabs? and was the adderall given to you for ADD for as an AD?
>
> good luck to you!! I really hope this new regimen works for you :)
>
> namaste,
> lilith
>
> > lilith,
> > I am new to adderall but figured i would have to split the dose to avoid a meltdown.
> > i skipped the paxil and now i am on my second day with the tianeptine.
> > i am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time
> > any way you can get yourself out of the house in the morning?
> > i know it can be rough but early in the morning, before you have a chance to talk yourself out of it.
> > also, if you can get just a bit of sunshine.
> > hang in there
> >
> > hi elanor
> > >
> > > I felt the taineptine immediately as well - though I started at 1 tab 2x daily. It hasn't 'changed' my world but it has made a difference and every little bit helps. I think, for me, changing some of my depressed, self-defeating habits have become 1/2 the battle
> > >
> > > have you always taken your adderall in a split dose? how does that work for you? I've been thinking of splitting my focalin as I feel the effects of the tianeptine much more in the a.m. along with my add meds than I do in the afternoon.
> > >
> > > personally I wouldn't waste my time with paxil, unless you've done well on ssri's in the past. They make me numb, anorgasmic and just 'blunt' everything... not my idea of living
> > >
> > > Good Luck with the tianeptine... please keep us updated :))
> > >
> > > namaste,
> > > lilith
> > >
> > > > met with my pdoc yesterday and we are not on the same page w/ the tianeptine
> > > > i just got slammed by the lexapro and i need to pull out of this state of mind
> > > > pdoc was lost as to the next step so i walked away with a paxil (not cr) script --
> > > > i have tianeptine and would like to start
> > > > from what i have read here, it takes a while to kick in and i am deciding if i should try to pull out of this bad spot with the paxil first
> > > > actually, just writing this has helped me decide
> > > > f*ck the paxil
> > > > i am going to start on 2 half-tabs of the stablon today
> > > > i am also taking 5mg adderall 2x daily,
> > > > 10mg ambien and xanax as needed -- approx 2mg daily
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
hi elanor,
>
> thanks for the sympathy... it goes a long way. I managed to get out over the weekend but now have some health issues which will probably be the only thing I attend to this week... sigh
>
> that said, I am trying splitting my dose of focalin since the tianeptine seems to work well with it. I had oral surgery this morning, saw no reason to take both pills for that! so I figured I'd take the other focalin in the afternoon with the other taineptine and maybe drop the wellbutrin. It goes against my training of only changing one thing at a time LOL but that said, I'm getting impatient.
>
> I hope to get more mileage from the focalin timewise that way but I also don't want to compromise what it does for me now. The last time I tried cutting the dose, it took 5 days before I noticed the difference and it was really bad. Only this time I'm attempting to just spread it out. I hope it works
>
> I hope the tianeptine is helping you. I think you made a good choice not bothering with the paxil. Are you still taking only 1/2 tabs? and was the adderall given to you for ADD for as an AD?
>
> good luck to you!! I really hope this new regimen works for you :)
>
> namaste,
> lilith
>
> > lilith,
> > I am new to adderall but figured i would have to split the dose to avoid a meltdown.
> > i skipped the paxil and now i am on my second day with the tianeptine.
> > i am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time
> > any way you can get yourself out of the house in the morning?
> > i know it can be rough but early in the morning, before you have a chance to talk yourself out of it.
> > also, if you can get just a bit of sunshine.
> > hang in there
> >
> > hi elanor
> > >
> > > I felt the taineptine immediately as well - though I started at 1 tab 2x daily. It hasn't 'changed' my world but it has made a difference and every little bit helps. I think, for me, changing some of my depressed, self-defeating habits have become 1/2 the battle
> > >
> > > have you always taken your adderall in a split dose? how does that work for you? I've been thinking of splitting my focalin as I feel the effects of the tianeptine much more in the a.m. along with my add meds than I do in the afternoon.
> > >
> > > personally I wouldn't waste my time with paxil, unless you've done well on ssri's in the past. They make me numb, anorgasmic and just 'blunt' everything... not my idea of living
> > >
> > > Good Luck with the tianeptine... please keep us updated :))
> > >
> > > namaste,
> > > lilith
> > >
> > > > met with my pdoc yesterday and we are not on the same page w/ the tianeptine
> > > > i just got slammed by the lexapro and i need to pull out of this state of mind
> > > > pdoc was lost as to the next step so i walked away with a paxil (not cr) script --
> > > > i have tianeptine and would like to start
> > > > from what i have read here, it takes a while to kick in and i am deciding if i should try to pull out of this bad spot with the paxil first
> > > > actually, just writing this has helped me decide
> > > > f*ck the paxil
> > > > i am going to start on 2 half-tabs of the stablon today
> > > > i am also taking 5mg adderall 2x daily,
> > > > 10mg ambien and xanax as needed -- approx 2mg daily
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by liliths on February 13, 2007, at 13:18:16
In reply to Re: just started tianeptine, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 11:22:53
hi elanor
what does the lexapro do for you? Maybe you'd be better off on just the adderall and the tianeptine (along with your ambien and xanax :) but I'm no doctor.
what do you mean about the bad time you had yesterday? What exactly happened to you? Do you know which drug (or combination) makes you angry? How long have you been on the Lexapro? Has it helped?
I'm personally anti-SSRI, but that's just me. Didn't you say your doctor had given you a script for paxil? Was that to replace the lexapro or were you going to take 2 SSRI's?
Though I actually fought the ADD diagnosis when it was first presented to me, I now wonder what might life might've been like if I'd accepted it a long time ago. The media always uses the young male model as the stereotype and I never related to that. Once I did some research on how it tended to show up in females, it was "oh duh!" LOL
right now I'm home, still recovering from the oral surgery but I hope to be able to get out tomorrow. I have some tests scheduled for the rest... an MRI on thursday and some nerve conduction tests next week. I'm having a lot of problems with joint pain and weakness in my right arm and now, both hands.
I know I have some disc issues in my neck and my lower back but this joint thing has me really concerned. I haven't been able to work out and that alone exacerbates my depression. My pdoc once told me that no pill would help me unless I exercised every day and there is some truth to that. Unfortunately, when I'm really depressed, I don't do what's needed to make myself feel better. I dig my heels in and feel worse!
I feel almost embarrassed writing that - it's so easy for me to blame myself for my problems. Too easy actually. So these current issues have been giving me just what I need to keep spiraling down the toilet... sigh
My fight with the state over becoming licensed is a whole other bag of worms! I won't even go there... but it did basically pull the rug out from under me and made me retreat full time into my lair. It's hard enough battling depression from the inside, but when life on the outside conspires against you, it becomes almost impossible
I need to find some p/t work. Some structure, along with the money I desperately need, would go a long way towards bringing me back. Particularly now, while I'm actually feeling some good effects from the tianeptine. I know there's a window... that once I become 'used' to it, it won't feel as strong, even if it's still working. Breaking my depressive habits are critical for me.
I've been going through one of those phases where the saying: "if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all" has been too true. I'm hoping things will turn around. It would be nice if they could figure out what's causing the pain and weakness and fix it but I'm not overly optimistic about medicine. More likely I'll have to fight my way through it myself
thanks for asking.. sorry I rambled on
I hope you sort everything out and make it work... sounds like your on your way :)
Good Luck!!
namaste,
lilith> >I am still on 3xhalf tabs of tianeptine and
> 2x 5g adderall
> the ADD med i talked my way into as a way to extend the effectivenes of lexapro
> it did not work that way
> the lexapro slammed me
> however, i have always known i am ADD just never could convince the doctors
> now i can read non fiction for more than 30 seconds at a time
> and i immediately stopped biting my nails and bothering my cuticles (side effect of life and lexapro)
> so i am hopeful. thinking i might decrease the adderall as i increase tianeptine - still figuring it all out -- timed it badly yesterday and had a number of hours being pretty ticked off at the universe.
> tried to stick with the mantra: it's just the meds, it's just the meds
>
> are your medical problems going to keep you housebound?
>
> hi elanor,
> >
> > thanks for the sympathy... it goes a long way. I managed to get out over the weekend but now have some health issues which will probably be the only thing I attend to this week... sigh
> >
> > that said, I am trying splitting my dose of focalin since the tianeptine seems to work well with it. I had oral surgery this morning, saw no reason to take both pills for that! so I figured I'd take the other focalin in the afternoon with the other taineptine and maybe drop the wellbutrin. It goes against my training of only changing one thing at a time LOL but that said, I'm getting impatient.
> >
> > I hope to get more mileage from the focalin timewise that way but I also don't want to compromise what it does for me now. The last time I tried cutting the dose, it took 5 days before I noticed the difference and it was really bad. Only this time I'm attempting to just spread it out. I hope it works
> >
> > I hope the tianeptine is helping you. I think you made a good choice not bothering with the paxil. Are you still taking only 1/2 tabs? and was the adderall given to you for ADD for as an AD?
> >
> > good luck to you!! I really hope this new regimen works for you :)
> >
> > namaste,
> > lilith
> >
> > > lilith,
> > > I am new to adderall but figured i would have to split the dose to avoid a meltdown.
> > > i skipped the paxil and now i am on my second day with the tianeptine.
> > > i am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time
> > > any way you can get yourself out of the house in the morning?
> > > i know it can be rough but early in the morning, before you have a chance to talk yourself out of it.
> > > also, if you can get just a bit of sunshine.
> > > hang in there
> > >
> > > hi elanor
> > > >
> > > > I felt the taineptine immediately as well - though I started at 1 tab 2x daily. It hasn't 'changed' my world but it has made a difference and every little bit helps. I think, for me, changing some of my depressed, self-defeating habits have become 1/2 the battle
> > > >
> > > > have you always taken your adderall in a split dose? how does that work for you? I've been thinking of splitting my focalin as I feel the effects of the tianeptine much more in the a.m. along with my add meds than I do in the afternoon.
> > > >
> > > > personally I wouldn't waste my time with paxil, unless you've done well on ssri's in the past. They make me numb, anorgasmic and just 'blunt' everything... not my idea of living
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck with the tianeptine... please keep us updated :))
> > > >
> > > > namaste,
> > > > lilith
> > > >
> > > > > met with my pdoc yesterday and we are not on the same page w/ the tianeptine
> > > > > i just got slammed by the lexapro and i need to pull out of this state of mind
> > > > > pdoc was lost as to the next step so i walked away with a paxil (not cr) script --
> > > > > i have tianeptine and would like to start
> > > > > from what i have read here, it takes a while to kick in and i am deciding if i should try to pull out of this bad spot with the paxil first
> > > > > actually, just writing this has helped me decide
> > > > > f*ck the paxil
> > > > > i am going to start on 2 half-tabs of the stablon today
> > > > > i am also taking 5mg adderall 2x daily,
> > > > > 10mg ambien and xanax as needed -- approx 2mg daily
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> hi elanor,
> >
> > thanks for the sympathy... it goes a long way. I managed to get out over the weekend but now have some health issues which will probably be the only thing I attend to this week... sigh
> >
> > that said, I am trying splitting my dose of focalin since the tianeptine seems to work well with it. I had oral surgery this morning, saw no reason to take both pills for that! so I figured I'd take the other focalin in the afternoon with the other taineptine and maybe drop the wellbutrin. It goes against my training of only changing one thing at a time LOL but that said, I'm getting impatient.
> >
> > I hope to get more mileage from the focalin timewise that way but I also don't want to compromise what it does for me now. The last time I tried cutting the dose, it took 5 days before I noticed the difference and it was really bad. Only this time I'm attempting to just spread it out. I hope it works
> >
> > I hope the tianeptine is helping you. I think you made a good choice not bothering with the paxil. Are you still taking only 1/2 tabs? and was the adderall given to you for ADD for as an AD?
> >
> > good luck to you!! I really hope this new regimen works for you :)
> >
> > namaste,
> > lilith
> >
> > > lilith,
> > > I am new to adderall but figured i would have to split the dose to avoid a meltdown.
> > > i skipped the paxil and now i am on my second day with the tianeptine.
> > > i am sorry to hear you are having such a hard time
> > > any way you can get yourself out of the house in the morning?
> > > i know it can be rough but early in the morning, before you have a chance to talk yourself out of it.
> > > also, if you can get just a bit of sunshine.
> > > hang in there
> > >
> > > hi elanor
> > > >
> > > > I felt the taineptine immediately as well - though I started at 1 tab 2x daily. It hasn't 'changed' my world but it has made a difference and every little bit helps. I think, for me, changing some of my depressed, self-defeating habits have become 1/2 the battle
> > > >
> > > > have you always taken your adderall in a split dose? how does that work for you? I've been thinking of splitting my focalin as I feel the effects of the tianeptine much more in the a.m. along with my add meds than I do in the afternoon.
> > > >
> > > > personally I wouldn't waste my time with paxil, unless you've done well on ssri's in the past. They make me numb, anorgasmic and just 'blunt' everything... not my idea of living
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck with the tianeptine... please keep us updated :))
> > > >
> > > > namaste,
> > > > lilith
> > > >
> > > > > met with my pdoc yesterday and we are not on the same page w/ the tianeptine
> > > > > i just got slammed by the lexapro and i need to pull out of this state of mind
> > > > > pdoc was lost as to the next step so i walked away with a paxil (not cr) script --
> > > > > i have tianeptine and would like to start
> > > > > from what i have read here, it takes a while to kick in and i am deciding if i should try to pull out of this bad spot with the paxil first
> > > > > actually, just writing this has helped me decide
> > > > > f*ck the paxil
> > > > > i am going to start on 2 half-tabs of the stablon today
> > > > > i am also taking 5mg adderall 2x daily,
> > > > > 10mg ambien and xanax as needed -- approx 2mg daily
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 18:51:39
In reply to Re: just started tianeptine » elanor roosevelt, posted by liliths on February 13, 2007, at 13:18:16
lilths
i got a script for paxil bc i was struggling with the decision to go forward with the tianeptine (i had already stopped the lexapro)
and i will continue to get scripts for paxil and fake it bc i need my pdoc and i think he will fire me if he knows about the tianeptine
like being a teenager again -- hiding baggies of barbituates
life is strange
Posted by liliths on February 14, 2007, at 8:13:20
In reply to little white lies, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 18:51:39
hi elanor
I totally understand. Though I 'mentioned' being interested in tianeptine to my pdoc, he didn't respond and I saw no reason to tell him I was planning on ordering it. I don't think he'd take kindly to what he'd perceive as my prescribing for myself. He's already shown himself to quite territorial about just who has the power and control LOL
I probably won't mention I went off the wellbutrin. Of course, I'm not totally sure whether I'll stay off it either. I've been taking such a low dose, 100mg in the afternoon, that it might be a good thing to continue.
But it's highly unlikely I'll tell my pdoc I started the tianeptine though I may bring in an article about it to further test his response at my next appointment. IF I can get him to consider it a good idea on his own, then I can pretend to just start it
yes, it IS like being a kid again. well, when you think about it, we were all probably self-medicating anyway. I was a speed freak when I was in high school. Think it had anything to do with having ADD and depression? LOL
hope you're doing well on the adderral/tianeptine/xanax combo. I found 1mg klonopin works well with my focalin in the morning.
I hope you're doing better & better every day
Happy Valentine's Day! :)
namaste,
lilith> lilths
> i got a script for paxil bc i was struggling with the decision to go forward with the tianeptine (i had already stopped the lexapro)
> and i will continue to get scripts for paxil and fake it bc i need my pdoc and i think he will fire me if he knows about the tianeptine
> like being a teenager again -- hiding baggies of barbituates
> life is strange
>
Posted by Jimmyboy on February 14, 2007, at 14:21:57
In reply to Re: Oh no, Accutane x Mood, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 13, 2007, at 11:18:25
I have also noticed that my skin has dried out quite noticeably the last few weeks since I started taking Tianeptine.. is this a common side effect?
JB
Posted by ralphrost on February 14, 2007, at 19:00:56
In reply to Re: just started tianeptine, posted by Declan on February 10, 2007, at 1:28:30
It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
Hope everybody is doing fine
Best wishes,
Ralph
Posted by ralphrost on February 14, 2007, at 19:02:59
In reply to Tianeptine - skin drying out » elanor roosevelt, posted by Jimmyboy on February 14, 2007, at 14:21:57
Weird for me, because I had the opposite effect.
My skin got more oily, although I'm not really stable on (stablon? ;) anything the last days...
Hope you're doing well
Ralph
Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 14, 2007, at 23:41:10
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - skin drying out, posted by ralphrost on February 14, 2007, at 19:02:59
i woke up feeling okay
what a pleasure
Posted by stargazer on February 15, 2007, at 7:52:27
In reply to Tianeptine day 6, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 14, 2007, at 23:41:10
Where do you get his med from, a pharmacy? Is it available in the US? I have read some about it and wanted to possibly try it down the road if it is something I can find out more about.
Do you take it with other meds or alone?
What type of depression is it best used for?
Stargazer
Posted by Jimmyboy on February 15, 2007, at 8:47:01
In reply to Tianeptine day 6, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 14, 2007, at 23:41:10
Thats great news! I hope it continues to be effective for you!
JB
Posted by elanor roosevelt on February 15, 2007, at 23:18:39
In reply to Where do you get Tianeptine?, posted by stargazer on February 15, 2007, at 7:52:27
i ordered the Tianeptine from India
have you read articles online about tianeptine?
ther is a lot of information out there and lots here offered by some of the wise ones
Posted by Jimmyboy on February 16, 2007, at 14:11:15
In reply to Re: Where do you get Tianeptine?, posted by elanor roosevelt on February 15, 2007, at 23:18:39
I also ordered from India. for almost 5 months worth it was $135. It came it foil stips that has the logo of the drug and the name of the manufacturer.
JB
Posted by itsme2003 on February 20, 2007, at 22:37:45
In reply to Re: Where do you get Tianeptine?, posted by Jimmyboy on February 16, 2007, at 14:11:15
I get mine from India as well. I assume that we are all talking about the place that requires payment via Western Union instead of accepting credit cards.
Posted by dav on March 8, 2007, at 13:06:25
In reply to Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by ralphrost on February 14, 2007, at 19:00:56
How are you getting on with the tianeptine
> It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
>
> Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
>
> Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
>
> The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
>
> Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
>
> Hope everybody is doing fine
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ralph
Posted by dav on March 8, 2007, at 13:08:32
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 8, 2007, at 13:06:25
I've been on it for one week along with my usual mirtazapine. I've had similar experiences of faituge and similar sleeping issues so far along with a lower mood then usual.
> How are you getting on with the tianeptine
>
> > It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
> >
> > Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
> >
> > Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
> >
> > The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
> >
> > Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
> >
> > Hope everybody is doing fine
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Ralph
>
>
Posted by metalflipflop on March 8, 2007, at 16:56:28
In reply to Re: Where do you get Tianeptine?, posted by itsme2003 on February 20, 2007, at 22:37:45
Hi everyone,
I was just wondering if those of you who order tianeptine from overseas could describe for me what your pills look like--I ordered some, Serdia Pharmaceuticals brand, and have been taking it for 4 days now. I definitely don't think it's inert, as I have noticed some good effects for anxiety already, though my mood remains low. I'm just checking on the pills though, b/c after years of taking American drugs with lots of stamps, scoring, etc., my tianeptine looks so...plain? Like a more elliptical white tic-tac, nothing printed on it. The package looks legit, with foil blister-pack of 20 pills each and a 2009 expiration, but I'm just curious about what others have received.
Thanks for reading!
Liz
P.S. - I am taking 2 pills a day now and will go up to 3 soon, as I haven't noticed many side effects.> I get mine from India as well. I assume that we are all talking about the place that requires payment via Western Union instead of accepting credit cards.
Posted by ralphrost on March 8, 2007, at 19:09:13
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 8, 2007, at 13:08:32
Hi dav,
it's been about 40 days on Tianeptine, and about two weeks ago I rose to 3x 12,5mg a day.
It's about one week I'm feeling much more alert. The fatigue and excessive sleepiness are gone. My mind is much clearer, great for work.
Anyway I've been experiencing some anxiety and higher emotional sensitivity. This is the bad part of the story. Also, kinda down anyway, plus no humor sense.
No big side effects, except for some mild constipation (I'm trying prunes and a better nutrition to correct that).
My next step is to try to augment it with something that could take care of the anxiety and improve mood.
Hope you're well,
Ralph
> I've been on it for one week along with my usual mirtazapine. I've had similar experiences of faituge and similar sleeping issues so far along with a lower mood then usual.
>
> > How are you getting on with the tianeptine
> >
> > > It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
> > >
> > > Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
> > >
> > > Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
> > >
> > > The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
> > >
> > > Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
> > >
> > > Hope everybody is doing fine
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Ralph
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by ralphrost on March 8, 2007, at 19:14:19
In reply to Re: Tianeptine? QUESTION FOR BUYERS » itsme2003, posted by metalflipflop on March 8, 2007, at 16:56:28
Hello,
as I live in Brazil, I don't have to import it. My pills are manufactured in France by Servier (patent holder) and look pretty much like you described. Elliptical white tictacs, nothing printed on them.
Sometimes I wish they came with some cocain or something, not all original I mean. Just a joke.
Best wishes,
Ralph
> Hi everyone,
> I was just wondering if those of you who order tianeptine from overseas could describe for me what your pills look like--I ordered some, Serdia Pharmaceuticals brand, and have been taking it for 4 days now. I definitely don't think it's inert, as I have noticed some good effects for anxiety already, though my mood remains low. I'm just checking on the pills though, b/c after years of taking American drugs with lots of stamps, scoring, etc., my tianeptine looks so...plain? Like a more elliptical white tic-tac, nothing printed on it. The package looks legit, with foil blister-pack of 20 pills each and a 2009 expiration, but I'm just curious about what others have received.
> Thanks for reading!
> Liz
> P.S. - I am taking 2 pills a day now and will go up to 3 soon, as I haven't noticed many side effects.
>
> > I get mine from India as well. I assume that we are all talking about the place that requires payment via Western Union instead of accepting credit cards.
>
>
Posted by metalflipflop on March 8, 2007, at 21:04:43
In reply to Re: Tianeptine? QUESTION FOR BUYERS, posted by ralphrost on March 8, 2007, at 19:14:19
^My pills are manufactured in France by Servier (patent holder) and look pretty much like you described. Elliptical white tictacs, nothing printed on them.
^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, good! That makes me feel better. Yeah, Serdia in India is like a subsidiary of Servier, or something like that--their Indian branch, ha. This is my first foray into online pharmaceuticals, but so far it seems to be working out pretty well.
FYI (and maybe TMI), the tianeptine is making me a little constipated too. Hopefully the body adapts and this, ahem, passes.
Thanks for responding,
Liz
Posted by dav on March 9, 2007, at 13:54:30
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by ralphrost on March 8, 2007, at 19:09:13
I've been on 3x12.5mg for 9 or 10 days now, i started on 2 a day for 3 days before that and the fatigue and lower mood just today is starting to improve and i think i have better recall and memory and my mind feels a little clearer. How is it great for work, do you mean your concentration started to improve to?
> Hi dav,
>
> it's been about 40 days on Tianeptine, and about two weeks ago I rose to 3x 12,5mg a day.
>
> It's about one week I'm feeling much more alert. The fatigue and excessive sleepiness are gone. My mind is much clearer, great for work.
>
> Anyway I've been experiencing some anxiety and higher emotional sensitivity. This is the bad part of the story. Also, kinda down anyway, plus no humor sense.
>
> No big side effects, except for some mild constipation (I'm trying prunes and a better nutrition to correct that).
>
> My next step is to try to augment it with something that could take care of the anxiety and improve mood.
>
> Hope you're well,
>
> Ralph
>
> > I've been on it for one week along with my usual mirtazapine. I've had similar experiences of faituge and similar sleeping issues so far along with a lower mood then usual.
> >
> > > How are you getting on with the tianeptine
> > >
> > > > It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
> > > >
> > > > Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
> > > >
> > > > Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
> > > >
> > > > The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
> > > >
> > > > Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
> > > >
> > > > Hope everybody is doing fine
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes,
> > > >
> > > > Ralph
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by dav on March 9, 2007, at 13:57:38
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 9, 2007, at 13:54:30
The anxiety and mood has been less of an issue for me maybe because i am also taking mirtazapine 45mg and a low dose of quetiapine 25mg for sleep. Also i think i know what you mean about the humour, less spontaneous than usual.
> I've been on 3x12.5mg for 9 or 10 days now, i started on 2 a day for 3 days before that and the fatigue and lower mood just today is starting to improve and i think i have better recall and memory and my mind feels a little clearer. How is it great for work, do you mean your concentration started to improve to?
>
> > Hi dav,
> >
> > it's been about 40 days on Tianeptine, and about two weeks ago I rose to 3x 12,5mg a day.
> >
> > It's about one week I'm feeling much more alert. The fatigue and excessive sleepiness are gone. My mind is much clearer, great for work.
> >
> > Anyway I've been experiencing some anxiety and higher emotional sensitivity. This is the bad part of the story. Also, kinda down anyway, plus no humor sense.
> >
> > No big side effects, except for some mild constipation (I'm trying prunes and a better nutrition to correct that).
> >
> > My next step is to try to augment it with something that could take care of the anxiety and improve mood.
> >
> > Hope you're well,
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > > I've been on it for one week along with my usual mirtazapine. I've had similar experiences of faituge and similar sleeping issues so far along with a lower mood then usual.
> > >
> > > > How are you getting on with the tianeptine
> > > >
> > > > > It's two weeks on Tianeptine (2 x 12,5 mg).
> > > > >
> > > > > Quite difficult to sleep early and wake early as well. I end up sleeping at 2 or 3 am and waking up around 11 am. When I wake up, I have some strong drowsiness that lasts about an hour. Then I start getting anxious.
> > > > >
> > > > > Today was very tough... Quite dysphoric :|
> > > > >
> > > > > The initial (mild) benefits are gone, but I'm hopeful and don't intend to give up soon, though...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thought about raising it to 3x day, dunno.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope everybody is doing fine
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ralph
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by Jimmyboy on March 9, 2007, at 15:45:44
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 9, 2007, at 13:57:38
I have had success with Tianeptine,it did take awhile to work for me, so I would stick it out for awhile. its been about 6 or 7 weeks for me.. I noticed a huge improvement by augmenting it with a small amount of SAM-e ( 200 mg twice a day) . i would say that I am in in complete remission , which is a damn miracle. But I am so thankful..
JB
Posted by dav on March 10, 2007, at 17:53:41
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by Jimmyboy on March 9, 2007, at 15:45:44
What dose are you taking, I noticed once i felt much better when i accidently took two tablets in the evening, making 4 tabs (good motivation), but I'll give the 3 tabs daily a chance and maybe add some low dose sam-e like you. My main problem is concentration.
> I have had success with Tianeptine,it did take awhile to work for me, so I would stick it out for awhile. its been about 6 or 7 weeks for me.. I noticed a huge improvement by augmenting it with a small amount of SAM-e ( 200 mg twice a day) . i would say that I am in in complete remission , which is a damn miracle. But I am so thankful..
>
>
> JB
Posted by Declan on March 10, 2007, at 21:32:06
In reply to Re: Tianeptine - two weeks, posted by dav on March 10, 2007, at 17:53:41
I took 400mg SAMe with tianeptine (3/d) this morning, and to my surprise it has worked out well.
I was able to do stuff.Parnate with tianeptine was not good and I spent the day in bed.
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