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Posted by Fivefires on February 9, 2007, at 12:06:54
I'd appreciate it if you'd check out my post on Social this a.m.
tks, 5f
Posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 12:50:12
In reply to Any1 Following P's Thread above re: Val ..., posted by Fivefires on February 9, 2007, at 12:06:54
Well I better look since it's about me but it's not just valium it's all the benzos. Love Phillipa ps please read my e-mails
Posted by Fivefires on February 9, 2007, at 15:10:23
In reply to Re: Any1 Following P's Thread above re: Val ... » Fivefires, posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 12:50:12
Oh, I know Jan, I know it's all of them. Sorry if it seemed I was zooming in on that alone. One or another of the benzos should have been adjusted when I first reported symptoms similar to my nervous breakdown 2yrs ago.
I hope u don't mind I've changed subject line.
I went to lie down and I suddenly realized how truly weak my body is.
I can think pretty clearly, but I cannot use my physical system or nervous system to speak w/o almost slurring, to open eyes widely w/o them almost closing, to hold my head upright rather than it sort of hanging to my side, or to sit up proud and not slouch like an 'I don't care' attitude. This is just like then.
I was right from the beginning. I did have another nervous breakdown. This isn't decompensating. This is a nervous breakdown left untreated. There I was right inside a facility to be admitted and because they called back here to my P, I couldn't stay.
And so, this is me left untreated, this is a remnant of me. My physical self is 'wasted'.
Whatever will I do about getting ready for this appt? Why didn't anyone listen to me a month ago? (I don't mean u or any1 here.)
I cannot go to my appt looking this disheveled.
I look and move like a zombie.
The only thing he would give me in the beginning was a tranquilizer. I said no!
I'm not even nervous anymore, at least not here safe inside my place.
I feel like I've 'wasted away', again.
Jan I don't want to worry you re: nervous breakdown. It's onset for me was after a horrible long bout of uncontrollable crying, then an inability to walk w/o holding onto something, unable to eat, etc. You know what, instead of ever worrying about one, now you will know what warning signs are.
OMG, 5f
It's like b4, but then I had no Valium so was hyperventilating, but my body shut down. That's how I feel at this moment. Like I need assistance to get there. The only reason I could go to store yesterday is it's 1/4blk away and I could lean on the cart and there was more than one person in that store that I said to 'I'm sorry, I'm ill, can u help w/ this or that'.
Shall I really be so 'I'm okay and understanding w/ my P'
HELP How to handle appt???
Posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 16:33:49
In reply to HELP - NERVOUS BREAKDOWN #2 » Phillipa, posted by Fivefires on February 9, 2007, at 15:10:23
Five fires valium is a tranquilizer so why did you say no? I thought you wanted your valium back to it's original dose? Sounds like withdrawal to me as your P cut too much too fast. Love Phillipa
Posted by Shadowplayers721 on February 9, 2007, at 18:47:05
In reply to Re: HELP - NERVOUS BREAKDOWN #2 » Fivefires, posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 16:33:49
Personally, I would take Klonopin or librium and not valium. I have heard too many complain that it gives a depressive hang over the next day. Be yourself at your appointment. Take care of yourself. I care about you.
Posted by Fivefires on February 9, 2007, at 19:15:07
In reply to Re: HELP - NERVOUS BREAKDOWN #2 » Fivefires, posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 16:33:49
I thought tranqs were bad for me Phillipa. My grandmother was put on Haldol. She immediately lost her mind .. became a vegetable. So of course 'I thought they were bad news'.
Oh, and he explained again how there is not really such a thing as a "nerv*us b*eakdown". I'm really damn sick of hearing that line!
No, I'm keeping the Valium. It's been my wish to be on a long acting maintenance and short acting prn ben*odiazepine.
Valium saved my life 2yrs ago and maybe was/is necessary right now, but after this long .. well it seems as 'it depresses me'. Then when something happens which might make me anxious, it doesn't work for that.
He put me on Lexap*o, but it's an SSRI, so I hope don't have suicidal ideation on them as I always have w/ SSRIs in past.
I asked about GABA. I wondered because of the way I'm craving chocolate feverishly! Never b4 have I been like this. I've liked chocolate of course, but it's not like this. I eat it like an animal whose just caught his prey!
He said, "Why do you want to know about it?".
I feel he doesn't want me to understand anything.
Bad appt .. very bad. I'm very unhappy.
I'm a shutin agoraphobic and/or a nervous ceiling walker, dependent upon circumstances of life.
My life is so non-existent can't even claim it sucks!
Sorry .. I'mJustSoVeryUpset, 5f
Posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 20:04:31
In reply to Re: HELP - NERVOUS BREAKDOWN #2 » Phillipa, posted by Fivefires on February 9, 2007, at 19:15:07
Haldol is a major old tranquilizer benzos are the newer tranquilizers. As is ativan, xanax, klonopin too , valium, librium, tranxene. Love Phillipa Sorry about the appointment but you know docs have to ask those type of questions to assess your memory and to check for depression, psychosis,etc.
Posted by notfred on February 9, 2007, at 21:48:43
In reply to Re: HELP - NERVOUS BREAKDOWN #2 » Fivefires, posted by Phillipa on February 9, 2007, at 16:33:49
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nervous_breakdown
A mental breakdown, also known as a nervous breakdown, is a sudden, acute attack of mental illness such as depression or anxiety. Like “sanity” and its derivatives, the term is not recognized by the psychological community. In part, this is because the term has pejorative connotations, while this phenomenon is a normal and relatively common response to chronic stress. Often, the emerging illness is only described as a "breakdown" when the person becomes unable to function, at which point the disorder is advanced. Often, the supposed breakdown is a manifestation of career burnout.The psychiatric community rejects the term "nervous breakdown" and "mental breakdown", in part, because it is not descriptive enough of the actual disorder and symptoms. A common diagnosis that follows such an event is “brief reactive psychosis.”
A mental breakdown is not the same as a panic attack, though mental breakdowns can trigger panic.
Posted by Fivefires on February 12, 2007, at 16:20:37
In reply to Re: HELP - NERVOUS BREAKDOWN #2, posted by Shadowplayers721 on February 9, 2007, at 18:47:05
Klonopin worked okay, but not for panic.
I didn't think a doctor would prescribe Librium these days. I didn't think anyone was on it anymore these days.
I was on it once and I it worked for anxiety and panic .. would be a miracle if a P would all it.
tksSP, 5f
Posted by Fivefires on February 12, 2007, at 17:20:50
In reply to Re: HELP - NERVOUS BREAKDOWN #2, posted by notfred on February 9, 2007, at 21:48:43
I had a crying jag or rather I cried hysterically somewhere where I could be alone and not heard, for a few hours. This was followed by a calm feeling. Then I began to feel weakness. I began to be unable to walk w/o holding onto something. I started hyperventilating, constantly, .. only relief was awakening after falling asleep, a short-lived period of feeling calm. I couldn't eat. I couldn't move. I became weaker and weaker. Daughter took me to P. I was shaking ... my entire body. Admitted to hospital mental ward. To me, I felt like I should be on a medical ward, but said nothing as knew they'd see I had a mental diagnosis. All peeps on ward were suicidal. Until I was given Valium, I had to hold onto rails to walk, I had a stooping posture, couldn't eat, labored breathing to hyeprventilating, pounds were falling off me .. food would not go down well IF I could get it to my mouth re: tremor. Had episodes of feeling a full pressure in the top of my head. Had episodes of near passing out. I think I lost nearly 20lbs in a matter of one week. All symptoms were relieved by Valium. The symptoms overall were physical, NOT MENTAL!
I don't mean to sound 'mean', but I CERTAINLY KNOW THE DIFF' BETWEEN A PANIC ATTACK and what happened above. And, if you think I was 'losing my mind', nothing could have been further from the truth. The only time I felt a touch of loss of contact with sanity were the times the P had forgotten to write my Valium order, I hyperventilated hard, felt pressure in the top of my head, and once, just once, thought peeps around me were talking about me. I have some medical/mental knowledge re: my past profession. So, during this time, instead of giving in to what wasn't real, I tried to keep from looking up at peeps around me and told myself over and over and over again 'you are imagining this', until I finally got my freakin' Valium dose, and this 'imagination that peeps were talking about me' went away.
I've 'lost it' and quit jobs or husbands or boyfriends or broken hair brushes as they hit the wall.
I've had panic attacks (feel like heart attacks I suppose ... heavy hard pressure on/in chest and feels like restricting your throat so shallow breathing) while sitting quietly not thinking of anything in particular.
Somewhere someone knows what happened. At this point I will begin calling it a 'physical breakdown', because the moment I mention 'nervous breakdown', someone throws it into the mental health category, and thinks it was something like the incidents in the prior paragraph.
Please accept my apology if I seem to be 'reacting to your post' in a defensive manner, but 'I know what happened to me was a very dangerous thing' and I'm so frustrated by the lack of mental health progessionals and peers realizing just how dangerous it was.
sincerely, 5f
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