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Posted by Klavot on January 18, 2007, at 5:26:58
Considering that its full chemical name is 3-chloro-N-tert-butyl-beta-keto-amphetamine?
Klavot
Posted by Phillipa on January 18, 2007, at 12:11:03
In reply to Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by Klavot on January 18, 2007, at 5:26:58
No don't think so but it sure acted like one in me. Made me appear hypomanic in a week of use. Love Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on January 18, 2007, at 15:34:58
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine? » Klavot, posted by Phillipa on January 18, 2007, at 12:11:03
I think it may be an amphetamine derivitive. The weight loss drug Tenuate (diethylpropion) is related to bupropion, and I think it is an amphetamine derivitive.
Not sure exactly.
Linkadge
Posted by blueberry1 on January 19, 2007, at 7:09:09
In reply to Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by Klavot on January 18, 2007, at 5:26:58
I was thinking of trying Wellbutrin. But if it is like an amphetamine, that might not be a good sign for me. The amphetamine Adderall sent me into a tailspin dive on the first dose. Scared me how bad it was. I wonder if Wellbutrin would do that.
Posted by med_empowered on January 19, 2007, at 12:24:37
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by blueberry1 on January 19, 2007, at 7:09:09
Wellbutrin is more amphetamine-ish than most other ADs, like the SSRIs or tricyclics. Its related to Tenuate like another poster said, which would explain its anorectic properties. Also, there's apparently some abuse potential--it just doesn't pop up much b/c of side effects and b/c convulsions tend to occur at dosages high enough to produce any euphoric effect.
Weirdly enough, its considered good stuff for bipolars and some schizoaffective patients--takes care of the depression and mood swings w/ low risk of mania.
Posted by laima on January 19, 2007, at 13:17:13
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by med_empowered on January 19, 2007, at 12:24:37
I've never heard that wellbutrin was an amphetamine, just that it was "activating". I mean, even some MAOIs are said to break down into amphetamine-like products. But interesting question, I wonder how similar they are.
Posted by yxibow on January 19, 2007, at 21:39:08
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by linkadge on January 18, 2007, at 15:34:58
> I think it may be an amphetamine derivitive. The weight loss drug Tenuate (diethylpropion) is related to bupropion, and I think it is an amphetamine derivitive.
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> Not sure exactly.
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> LinkadgeYes -- it was derived from Tenuate. Tenuate is also known as diethycathinone, a sympathimometic, which is the N,N-diethyl analog of cathinone and dimethylcathinone. Cathinone, otherwise known as Khat, is a phenethylamine.
Phenethylamines include Category I (Worldwide and otherwise) illicit substances, including Khat, which is legal in a few middle eastern countries from whence the herbaceous plant came, and also include amphetamines, pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, and the neurotransmitters dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenethylamine
Curiously enough, Wellbutrin appears on that chart, but it is not itself an amphetamine as far as I can tell, as it is otherwise described
(±)-1-(3-chlorophenyl)-2-[(1,1-dimethylethyl)amino]-
1-propanonehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bupropion.png
You can compare the structures of Buproprion and Methcathinone on Wikipedia, but they are not quite the same.
Nonetheless to those who have been on it, it is rather stimulating (too stimulating for my OCD in general.)
Posted by laima on January 19, 2007, at 21:58:05
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine? » linkadge, posted by yxibow on January 19, 2007, at 21:39:08
Well, I think wikipedia is not immune to errors or opinions, considering how many people are able to edit it.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenethylamine
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> Curiously enough, Wellbutrin appears on that chart, but it is not itself an amphetamine as far as I can tell, as it is otherwise described
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> (±)-1-(3-chlorophenyl)-2-[(1,1-dimethylethyl)amino]-
> 1-propanone
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bupropion.png
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Posted by yxibow on January 20, 2007, at 2:59:18
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine? » yxibow, posted by laima on January 19, 2007, at 21:58:05
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> Well, I think wikipedia is not immune to errors or opinions, considering how many people are able to edit it.
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> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenethylamine
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> > Curiously enough, Wellbutrin appears on that chart, but it is not itself an amphetamine as far as I can tell, as it is otherwise described
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> > (±)-1-(3-chlorophenyl)-2-[(1,1-dimethylethyl)amino]-
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> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bupropion.png
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Agreed, I was going to add that.It still is an invaluable resource to the Internet community if you take it with a grain of salt. Most entries on there have a fair degree of accuracy; political disputes are marked as so, pages that have been repeatedly "defaced" by entities are frozen, etc. If you think of the sheer number of entries in there, regardless of errors, its an impressive piece of completely free work.
Sure, I wouldn't particularly use it to quote in a journal submission or term paper except as a sidenote, at this point. There are still excellent public universities open to the public in large parts of the US at least with millions of volumes of books and journals that are obviously resources to quote from. Wikipedia would be merely a jump-start point.
Posted by laima on January 20, 2007, at 7:59:51
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine? » laima, posted by yxibow on January 20, 2007, at 2:59:18
Yes, and I totally agree with you too, that wikipedia is a great resource. I like reading it, too. I've seen some slightly dubious slants in articles in areas (non-science, non-politics) where I have some expertise, so that's why I wonder about the rest. I've been amazed how some mundane topics could be slightly slanted, by their emphasis, what they include or don't include, choice of attribution, choice of wording. Stuff like that. I also often read about medications and other topics in there, and it's a great place to get an overall start on a topic. But it's also good to then try to see what other sources say. One thing I like about babble, I feel like I have some idea of who is saying what, if that makes sense. I wish they offered more info on who authors their articles, maybe a log or something like that.> >
> > Well, I think wikipedia is not immune to errors or opinions, considering how many people are able to edit it.
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> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenethylamine
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> > > Curiously enough, Wellbutrin appears on that chart, but it is not itself an amphetamine as far as I can tell, as it is otherwise described
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> > > (±)-1-(3-chlorophenyl)-2-[(1,1-dimethylethyl)amino]-
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> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bupropion.png
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> Agreed, I was going to add that.
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> It still is an invaluable resource to the Internet community if you take it with a grain of salt. Most entries on there have a fair degree of accuracy; political disputes are marked as so, pages that have been repeatedly "defaced" by entities are frozen, etc. If you think of the sheer number of entries in there, regardless of errors, its an impressive piece of completely free work.
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> Sure, I wouldn't particularly use it to quote in a journal submission or term paper except as a sidenote, at this point. There are still excellent public universities open to the public in large parts of the US at least with millions of volumes of books and journals that are obviously resources to quote from. Wikipedia would be merely a jump-start point.
Posted by notfred on January 20, 2007, at 13:07:52
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine? » laima, posted by yxibow on January 20, 2007, at 2:59:18
"It still is an invaluable resource to the Internet community if you take it with a grain of salt."
Actually Wikipedia is about as accurate on science as the Encyclopedia Britannica, a study shows.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm
Posted by laima on January 20, 2007, at 13:41:13
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by notfred on January 20, 2007, at 13:07:52
Of course it is- except for those particular articles from my subject area. Look to the BBC to set things straight.
> "It still is an invaluable resource to the Internet community if you take it with a grain of salt."
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> Actually Wikipedia is about as accurate on science as the Encyclopedia Britannica, a study shows.
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4530930.stm
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Posted by Declan on January 20, 2007, at 18:10:26
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by blueberry1 on January 19, 2007, at 7:09:09
Anyone taken Tenuate? I have, and I wouldn't recommend it. Way worse than amphetamine, of course.
Posted by nolegirl23 on January 24, 2007, at 13:20:07
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by med_empowered on January 19, 2007, at 12:24:37
> Wellbutrin is more amphetamine-ish than most other ADs, like the SSRIs or tricyclics. Its related to Tenuate like another poster said, which would explain its anorectic properties. Also, there's apparently some abuse potential--it just doesn't pop up much b/c of side effects and b/c convulsions tend to occur at dosages high enough to produce any euphoric effect.
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> Weirdly enough, its considered good stuff for bipolars and some schizoaffective patients--takes care of the depression and mood swings w/ low risk of mania.I didn't know that Wellbutrin had anorectic qualities.. Is that why they won't prescribe Wellbutrin to anybody who has an eating disorder?
I would love to be on a med that made me have less of an appetite... Lamictal increases my appetite, and from the prospective of a person with an eating disorder, the last thing I want a medication to do is to make me hungry!
I would love to try Wellbutrin, I've heard that people have lost a ton of weight on it, but my doc says 'no way..'Does it have that anorectic quality for everybody?
Posted by rvp on January 24, 2007, at 20:30:54
In reply to Re: Is Wellbutrin an amphetamine?, posted by nolegirl23 on January 24, 2007, at 13:20:07
Wellbutrin is a phenylaminocetone, an ia a very near cousing of amphepramone(diethylpropione). So It isnt an amphetamine by itself, but has variuos effects that remember one, mainly in IR tabs.
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