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Posted by B2chica on December 5, 2006, at 10:27:13
i had heard many times about the risk of diabetes from zyprexa, but now i heard that it now includes risperdal AND seroquel.
http://www.coreynahman.com/atypical-antipsychotic-lawsuits.html
i know MANY of you use seroquel so i just wanted to put this out there.
i'm not sure if this is new or old news but i just heard about it.it seems like they give us one new drug and take back two...
Posted by Phillipa on December 5, 2006, at 11:50:12
In reply to lawsuit on seroquel now?, posted by B2chica on December 5, 2006, at 10:27:13
Oh how nice and I just started taking 25mg of seroquel with valium to sleep since I'm becoming tolerant to valium and other benzos. And isn't seroquel now used solely as an antidepressant? Love Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on December 5, 2006, at 13:07:25
In reply to lawsuit on seroquel now?, posted by B2chica on December 5, 2006, at 10:27:13
> i had heard many times about the risk of diabetes from zyprexa, but now i heard that it now includes risperdal AND seroquel.
> http://www.coreynahman.com/atypical-antipsychotic-lawsuits.html
> i know MANY of you use seroquel so i just wanted to put this out there.
> i'm not sure if this is new or old news but i just heard about it.
>
> it seems like they give us one new drug and take back two...
Its ambulance chasing fluff from a search engine. I'm sure if you searched for every drug out there you would get class action attempts plus advertisements for Cialis and Viagra.Type diabetes lawsuit into Google. You'll get everything that could have possibly caused diabetes and their tort lawyers.
Try hair loss lawsuit.
Its as much money chasing spam as money making drug companies.
Posted by Phillipa on December 5, 2006, at 18:28:56
In reply to Re: lawsuit on seroquel now? » B2chica, posted by yxibow on December 5, 2006, at 13:07:25
Jay My Daughter saw it on TV it's legit. Love Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on December 6, 2006, at 0:50:11
In reply to Re: lawsuit on seroquel now? » yxibow, posted by Phillipa on December 5, 2006, at 18:28:56
> Jay My Daughter saw it on TV it's legit. Love Phillipa
I didn't say some ambulance chasers (I am not characterizing all lawyers as such but there is a high amount of it if you do any drug search on the internet) weren't "legit." But don't believe everything you see on TV. Especially FOX. [soapbox off.]
But this culture of suing (other than gross negligence) drug manufacturers ultimately reduces the likelihood that novel agents will pass Stage III and go into development.I don't speak for the pharmaceutical industry and I think there is a ton of overhead spent on advertising and legal security of patents.
But we ultimately debate on here ad nauseum "drug X" is awful, and then at the same time we want (I know I want) a superdrug to cure our ills.
I don't know the exact issues in this case, and I certainly have concern as I do take Seroquel, but I also have what is known as "informed consent."My doctor has informed me that Seroquel can cause various EPS syndromes up to and including TD. I never thought in a million years I would be taking a neuroleptic but it is one of two medications that is important to my wellbeing at the moment.
I also get physicals more than once a year typically and have liver and other blood tests to monitor the various medications I am taking.
I could sue my doctor for the so far permanent minor twitch on my index finger which was likely caused by a combination of Risperdal and Prozac some 4 to 5 years ago -- but I have a good rapport and what would that accomplish? I have to work with what I have left.It could be worse, I could be an amputee in a non-western medical setting where nothing else is available to cure my gangrene.
I know sometimes I feel powerless with side effects which are not pleasant but if I am to get on with a semi-normal existence, I have to consider the ramifications of "informed consent."
This is different from emergency medicine, where a patient may actually be unconscious and unable to give consent to a novel treatment that may save their lives but possibly give unwanted results as well. This remains one of the ills of being an ER doctor, and being sued in court, regardless of malpractice insurance, it is the board of the hospital versus the patient.-- Jay
Posted by B2chica on December 6, 2006, at 9:24:42
In reply to Re: lawsuit on seroquel now? » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on December 6, 2006, at 0:50:11
Thanks for your input jay.
a friend told me he saw it on tv news (but i think it was FOX...-agree totally there)
so i did a search and only came up with that one thread, i thought there'd be dozens but there weren't.
but i know lots here are on it and i hadn't heard it from anyone here so i thought i'd post to see what's up.agree with the amb. chasers and lawsuits.
and i agree also with the informed consent. i've heard so many negatives about people taking zyprexa but it was the ONLY thing that really worked for me and if i have to go back on meds i know i will go back to that one.
thanks all
b2c.
Posted by Phillipa on December 6, 2006, at 18:22:11
In reply to Re: lawsuit on seroquel now? » yxibow, posted by B2chica on December 6, 2006, at 9:24:42
Well my pdoc didn't tell me about those side effects when she gave me bags of seroquel samples and told me to play around with them. Love Phillipa
Posted by yxibow on December 6, 2006, at 18:40:22
In reply to Re: lawsuit on seroquel now?, posted by Phillipa on December 6, 2006, at 18:22:11
> Well my pdoc didn't tell me about those side effects when she gave me bags of seroquel samples and told me to play around with them. Love Phillipa
Ai..... if that is literally verbatim that is not the best practice. I'm sorry your doctor was that casual if she was.
You should always have "informed consent" about the most often experienced side effects with a medication if they are experienced to any degree. Now at the same time if you told your patients everything in the PDR they might (and this isn't entirely fiction) develop "medical student syndrome" and think what is happening to them must absolutely be the rarest side effect. Doesn't mean rare side effects don't happen. I know that myself. Trazodone -- priapisms, not exactly rare. Lyrica -- visual degradation/blurriness, not exactly rare either.
-- tidings
Jay
Posted by Phillipa on December 6, 2006, at 20:06:05
In reply to Re: lawsuit on seroquel now? » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on December 6, 2006, at 18:40:22
Oh nurses get it too. I had it probably still do. Too little knowledge is dangerous. Love Phillipa
Posted by stargazer on December 11, 2006, at 19:47:15
In reply to Re: lawsuit on seroquel now? » yxibow, posted by Phillipa on December 6, 2006, at 20:06:05
FYI,
just so you know that Seroquel can also cause cataracts and you are supposed to have eye examinations every 6 mos or so.
I read that when I was reading the package insert. I make sure when I start a new med I inform myself about the side effects. I no longer rely entirely on my doctors since there are too many SE's for them to know them all and
I like to know myself.I'm on a very low dose of seroquel and I'm not worried about the SE's but I am aware of them and that is why I stress to others to take only the smallest dose you need and to not combine many differnt drugs, especially for those people who get their meds online and prescribe to themselves. Can't figure out who would do this themselves, it is even risky with medical oversight.
SG
Posted by stargazer on December 14, 2006, at 0:20:38
In reply to Re: lawsuit on seroquel now? Cataracts too, posted by stargazer on December 11, 2006, at 19:47:15
I told my pdoc this today about the cataract statement in Seroquel package insert, he wasn't aware so I came home and wanted to make sure I didn't make it up or if it was on another drug.
This is what it says....
"the development of cataracts was observed in association with quetiapine treatment in chronic dog studies (see Animal toxicology)...lens changes have also been observed in patients during long term Seroquel treatment, but a causal relationship has not been established. Nevertheless, the possibility of lenticular changes cannot be excluded ...therefore examination of the lens...is recommended at initiation of treatment ...and at 6 mos intervals during chronic treatment..."
Drug companies are starting to identify more of these side effects, it's called CYA. They are getting sued left and right and are only now starting to reveal more side effects in their literature. But you have to read it since the docs don't even know about alot of the stuff in there. They can't read everything and also see and treat patients. I wouldn't want their jobs despite their salaries. Too much uncertainty with these 'Crazy' meds.
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