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Posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 9:29:28
Great. So, the doctors are unable to
distinguish a therapeutically correct
benzo prescription, from a harmful one?I may as well seek a pusher down the
street for a more informed and congenial
treatment.Squiggles
Posted by Quintal on November 16, 2006, at 12:31:19
In reply to Cunning, posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 9:29:28
What are you referring to Squiggles?
Q
Posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 13:00:21
In reply to Cunning, posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 9:29:28
> Great. So, the doctors are unable to
> distinguish a therapeutically correct
> benzo prescription, from a harmful one?
>
> I may as well seek a pusher down the
> street for a more informed and congenial
> treatment.
>
> Squiggles
Sorry, the Bipolar 11 thread - i'm not quite
stable yet. It seems that whenever something
happens to destabilize the lithium level, it
takes time as well as the "AXE" headache to
recover -- and my experience has been that it
takes about 30 days.I have experimented a lot -- for example with this
cluster/migraine/axe headache i hypothesized that it is indicative of the lithium being high in the brain or having at least tweaked some neurons. So, on the basis of "high li" i mixed some OJ (potassium), table salt (sodium), and Muselix (psyllium - which lowers the li) and drank it all. It seems to have helped.It still goes up and down during the day like a pendulum. Scary as hell. The Sixties tokes were
child's play compared to today's chemical wonderland.As always the cluster headache once begun seem sto have its own circadian cycle, until i stabilize.
Wish me luck.
Squiggles
Posted by Quintal on November 16, 2006, at 15:24:13
In reply to Re: Cunning » Squiggles, posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 13:00:21
Ouch! Luckily (?) I have no experience with lithium, so I can't help you there, but you have my sympathy Squiggles. Hope you stabilize soon.
Q
Posted by Quintal on November 16, 2006, at 15:41:35
In reply to Cunning, posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 9:29:28
> I may as well seek a pusher down the
> street for a more informed and congenial
> treatment.I did this myself as the pdocs started to abandon me, and what a difference! Free home delivery and service with a smile. Check this for customer care; they even made home visits three times a week to see if I needed a refill! Hell, their drugs even DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO most of the time! On the down side though they were not so good for the old mood equilibrium so now it's either back to the Rx med treadmill or a leap of faith into the jungle with Ayahusca for me.
Good luck with the lithium.
Q
Posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 15:54:21
In reply to Re: Cunning » Squiggles, posted by Quintal on November 16, 2006, at 15:41:35
> > I may as well seek a pusher down the
> > street for a more informed and congenial
> > treatment.
>
> I did this myself as the pdocs started to abandon me, and what a difference! Free home delivery and service with a smile. Check this for customer care; they even made home visits three times a week to see if I needed a refill! Hell, their drugs even DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO most of the time! On the down side though they were not so good for the old mood equilibrium so now it's either back to the Rx med treadmill or a leap of faith into the jungle with Ayahusca for me.
>
> Good luck with the lithium.
> Q
LOL!! AAAAAAAAA! you are funny.Got their addresses?
Squiggles
Posted by linkadge on November 16, 2006, at 16:14:41
In reply to Re: Cunning » Quintal, posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 15:54:21
Have you ever tried dapakote? Sometimes doctors will use depakote to ease rapid cycling. Sometimes after you get stable you can remove the depakote. Lithium isn't too terably great for rapid cycling.
Linkadge
Posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 16:21:40
In reply to Re: Cunning, posted by linkadge on November 16, 2006, at 16:14:41
> Have you ever tried dapakote? Sometimes doctors will use depakote to ease rapid cycling. Sometimes after you get stable you can remove the depakote. Lithium isn't too terably great for rapid cycling.
>
> Linkadge
No I haven't. The problem is that I cannot
switch to another drug now, after so many
years of taking lithium AND the adjustment
that would have to be made for Rivotril,
Synthroid and Lithium -- i don't think my
dr. or any other dr. for that matter is up
to that - and it's risky.All that is needed to perfect the lithium
treatment is a more frequent monitoring. I have
not been monitored for any blood tests for 4 years. It's not malice. It's just an overwhelmed medical situation in our country, or i am ok and just a scardy cat.Squiggles
Posted by Quintal on November 16, 2006, at 16:45:37
In reply to Re: Cunning » linkadge, posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 16:21:40
>All that is needed to perfect the lithium
treatment is a more frequent monitoring. I have
not been monitored for any blood tests for 4 years. It's not malice. It's just an overwhelmed medical situation in our country, or i am ok and just a scardy cat.
Rivotril and an overwhelmed health service Squiqqles? I presume that is the UK you're talking about? How did you manage to get clonazepam for psychiatric use in this this country? I had to 'persuade' a newly graduated locum that it was superior to Valium and became enemy No.1 with the resident docs after he left because of it.I think it is reasonable to want more frequent checks on lithium levels than once every four years!
Q
Posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 16:50:14
In reply to Re: Cunning, posted by Quintal on November 16, 2006, at 16:45:37
> >All that is needed to perfect the lithium
> treatment is a more frequent monitoring. I have
> not been monitored for any blood tests for 4 years. It's not malice. It's just an overwhelmed medical situation in our country, or i am ok and just a scardy cat.
>
>
> Rivotril and an overwhelmed health service Squiqqles? I presume that is the UK you're talking about? How did you manage to get clonazepam for psychiatric use in this this country? I had to 'persuade' a newly graduated locum that it was superior to Valium and became enemy No.1 with the resident docs after he left because of it.
>
> I think it is reasonable to want more frequent checks on lithium levels than once every four years!
>
> QI just recently asked my dr. if he wanted to
check me for bloods, and he said no; presumably my bloods remain the same as i get older. I have to
trust my dr. and take care of the rest myself.
I have no other choice. So, don't fret
trying to make suggestions to help me.Thanks you. You are very thoughtful.
Squiggles
Posted by linkadge on November 16, 2006, at 18:54:09
In reply to Re: Cunning » linkadge, posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 16:21:40
You would not need to discontinue lithium in order to take depakote.
My mother for instance, had a few short episodes where lithium alone was insufficiant, and rapid cylcing occured. In these instances, a low dose of depakote was added on top of lithium, and withdrawn after stablizaton occured. At this point, the lithium retained the stability.
Linkadge
Posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 18:58:31
In reply to Re: Cunning, posted by linkadge on November 16, 2006, at 18:54:09
I'll tell that to my dr.
Tx
Squiggles
Posted by Squiggles on November 16, 2006, at 19:35:18
In reply to Re: Cunning, posted by linkadge on November 16, 2006, at 18:54:09
I was too sick to read carefully the interaction
sites on sulfites and lithium.Sulfites DECREASE Lithium, not increase;
but the psychological reaction to head
traumas is to immediately assume that you're
going toxic.I just reread the sites. I've been going the
wrong way.And don't think that those kind of mistakes
don't happen with other drugs.*&!@#
Squiggles
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