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Posted by med_empowered on August 16, 2006, at 12:31:48
I've only read parts of his book, but here's my take on the guy: he's an oppurtunist, and he's riding the depression bandwagon to make a name for himself.
Remember "Listening to Prozac" ? I do. He talked about people developing more reilient personalities and the magic of Prozac. He left out: akathisia, sexual dysfunction, drug-induced mania/psychosis, insomnia/agitation, and SSRI-induced apathy. He talked about the possibility of cosmetic psychiatry, a form of therapy that would help a person re-mold their personalities with the help of drugs.
Now we know Prozac can cause problems, and some studies show it only about as effective as placebo. We also now know that the old drugs work just as well, possibly better for some patients.
The man glosses over things to sell books and boost his career.
Posted by rjlockhart on August 16, 2006, at 12:57:41
In reply to My take on Kramer..., posted by med_empowered on August 16, 2006, at 12:31:48
Well,
I have never really heard about Kramer. I will have to look up on the google net.
Prozac does somewhat boost my personality. But not as much as other such as Dexedrine.
Prozac does produce some kinda of feeling but you have to notice it. It works great for me. No psychosis, well about mania, thats a diffrent story. I didnt take Zyprexa one time and i was really having a the best time the next day.
Posted by laima on August 16, 2006, at 13:55:37
In reply to Re: My take on Kramer..., posted by rjlockhart on August 16, 2006, at 12:57:41
Peter Kramer made quite a splash with his books-especially Listening to Prozac- and he sort of over-did it with his gushing about prozac-but bottom line, if it works for you, it works. I'm actually very sorry he made the fuss that he did about prozac, because he confused and upset a lot of people, and inspired all kinds of un-needed rumours and hurtful psychiatric-medication jokes. And he did it well before the risks and long term effects became known- but really- are there many pharmaceuticals of any sort out there free of any downside?
Well,
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> I have never really heard about Kramer. I will have to look up on the google net.
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> Prozac does somewhat boost my personality. But not as much as other such as Dexedrine.
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> Prozac does produce some kinda of feeling but you have to notice it. It works great for me. No psychosis, well about mania, thats a diffrent story. I didnt take Zyprexa one time and i was really having a the best time the next day.
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Posted by Phillipa on August 16, 2006, at 21:34:16
In reply to Re: My take on Kramer... » rjlockhart, posted by laima on August 16, 2006, at 13:55:37
I hid his book after reading it it scared me so much. Threw it away when I moved. love phillipa
Posted by notfred on August 16, 2006, at 22:37:33
In reply to My take on Kramer..., posted by med_empowered on August 16, 2006, at 12:31:48
> Remember "Listening to Prozac" ? I do. He talked about people developing more reilient personalities and the magic of Prozac.And also he wondered if it was just the drug ("Listening to Prozac") or did the people really change.
He left out: akathisia, sexual dysfunction, drug-induced mania/psychosis, insomnia/agitation, and SSRI-induced apathy.
This book came out around the time Prozac did
& these issues took time to show themselves.
He talked about the possibility of cosmetic psychiatry, a form of therapy that would help a person re-mold their personalities with the help of drugs.
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and talked about the ethics of giving meds to those who were not ill enought to justify meds.
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 17, 2006, at 7:36:27
In reply to My take on Kramer..., posted by med_empowered on August 16, 2006, at 12:31:48
m_e,
You wrote,[...the man (Kramer)? glosses over things to sell books and boost his career..].
Could you email me the reasons that you use to say that he glosses over things to sell books and boost his career?
I like emailing, so if you would like, you could email me at;
lpilder_1188@fuse.net
Lou
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