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Posted by MARTY on June 8, 2006, at 1:30:20
I'm on 300mg (150mg BID) of Lamictal. I'm trying to stop it gradually because of memory/cognitive problems with it (confirmed by a specialist).The problem is that by even just lowering the dose of 75mg (1/4 -> 225mg) I'm having, but controling, some panic attack. I NEVER had panic attack.
I never heard/read Lamictal was hard to withdraw from, so I think it's should not be often that such a thing is happening.
I don't have much experience/knowledge of anticonvulsant. Any thoughts would be appreciate greatly.
Marty
Posted by ClearSkies on June 8, 2006, at 7:42:44
In reply to Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had., posted by MARTY on June 8, 2006, at 1:30:20
Hi Marty, you might want to do a search on this on the Withdrawl board - I remember seeing at least one Lamictal thread there.
ClearSkies
Posted by heaven help me on June 8, 2006, at 11:24:16
In reply to Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had., posted by MARTY on June 8, 2006, at 1:30:20
Just some thoughts. I am on Lamictal 200mg a day. I do experience SOME (not lots) cognitive memory type loss. More like it takes me a little more work to get at what I am trying to say. HOWEVER, coming from being a type AAAA person with TOO much to say, I find this side effect refreshing and relaxing even. Perhaps just a lower dose of Lamictal for you?, Alos, I had NEVER had axiety or panic attacks in my life until I started this great chemistry experiment that I now am in. I have, though, found that Lorazepam sometimes helps, Magnesium Phosphate (a HOMEOPATHIC version found at health food stores) have both helped from time to time. ALos, if it works with your regime, a nice glass of red wine with dinner can be good. Ask your Dr.
blessings
mary
Posted by waterfall on June 8, 2006, at 20:24:56
In reply to Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had., posted by MARTY on June 8, 2006, at 1:30:20
I came on tonight to write about the same thing - I just sstopped Lamictal and am experiencing greatly increased anxiety. You're not alone and I guess neither am I. I've got plenty of Ativan to see me through.
Now if the dizziness would just pass also...
Posted by Phillipa on June 8, 2006, at 20:32:36
In reply to Re: Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never h, posted by waterfall on June 8, 2006, at 20:24:56
Lamictal causes panic at how high a dose? Love Phillipa
Posted by heaven help me on June 8, 2006, at 22:06:58
In reply to Re: Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never h, posted by waterfall on June 8, 2006, at 20:24:56
do you have dizziness from taking the Lamictal, or from coming off it?????
mary
Posted by waterfall on June 8, 2006, at 22:35:13
In reply to Re: Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never h » waterfall, posted by heaven help me on June 8, 2006, at 22:06:58
got dizziness while being on, and its getting a bit worse while coming off. Now, I'm on a little cocktail here of Lamictal, Lithium and Geodon, so it could be something else, or some combo problem, but I'm thinking not. What I want to know is how long it takes this dizziness to go away and is the anxietey a return of old anxiety or a result of going off this med?
Posted by Crazy Horse on June 8, 2006, at 23:03:34
In reply to Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had., posted by MARTY on June 8, 2006, at 1:30:20
>
> I'm on 300mg (150mg BID) of Lamictal. I'm trying to stop it gradually because of memory/cognitive problems with it (confirmed by a specialist).
>
> The problem is that by even just lowering the dose of 75mg (1/4 -> 225mg) I'm having, but controling, some panic attack. I NEVER had panic attack.
>
> I never heard/read Lamictal was hard to withdraw from, so I think it's should not be often that such a thing is happening.
>
> I don't have much experience/knowledge of anticonvulsant. Any thoughts would be appreciate greatly.
>
> MartyDearest Martin,
After reading your threads/posts during the past 3 months, my collegues and i have reached the conclusion that a partial labotomy would most likely be your best chance for a mentally stable existance. Being that Lamotrigine is hepatically metabolized via glucuronidation with subsequent renal excretion of the inactive glucurinide, and the fact that it has a weak inhibitory effect on 5-HT3 receptors, yet is still not capable of eliminating your primary problematic psychiatric symptoms points clearly to the need for immediate partial labotomy which we believe will at a minimum stabilize and decrease your chances of relapse depression.Regards,
Dr. C.H.Horse :)
Posted by waterfall on June 9, 2006, at 0:13:16
In reply to Re: Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had. » MARTY, posted by Crazy Horse on June 8, 2006, at 23:03:34
Afraid this thread just got too mean for my blood. The little smiley face at the end doesn't completely rid the aftertaste of something too cold for comfort.
Best wishes dealing with the lamictal, Marty,
waterfall
> Dearest Martin,
> After reading your threads/posts during the past 3 months, my collegues and i have reached the conclusion that a partial labotomy would most likely be your best chance for a mentally stable existance. Being that Lamotrigine is hepatically metabolized via glucuronidation with subsequent renal excretion of the inactive glucurinide, and the fact that it has a weak inhibitory effect on 5-HT3 receptors, yet is still not capable of eliminating your primary problematic psychiatric symptoms points clearly to the need for immediate partial labotomy which we believe will at a minimum stabilize and decrease your chances of relapse depression.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dr. C.H.Horse :)
Posted by Crazy Horse on June 9, 2006, at 9:33:12
In reply to Lamictal, posted by waterfall on June 9, 2006, at 0:13:16
> Afraid this thread just got too mean for my blood. The little smiley face at the end doesn't completely rid the aftertaste of something too cold for comfort.
>
> Best wishes dealing with the lamictal, Marty,
>
> waterfall
>
>
> > Dearest Martin,
> > After reading your threads/posts during the past 3 months, my collegues and i have reached the conclusion that a partial labotomy would most likely be your best chance for a mentally stable existance. Being that Lamotrigine is hepatically metabolized via glucuronidation with subsequent renal excretion of the inactive glucurinide, and the fact that it has a weak inhibitory effect on 5-HT3 receptors, yet is still not capable of eliminating your primary problematic psychiatric symptoms points clearly to the need for immediate partial labotomy which we believe will at a minimum stabilize and decrease your chances of relapse depression.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dr. C.H.Horse :)
>
>Judge not ol' great waterfall, for you do not understand. Marty and Crazy Horse are very good friends and He knows very well that this was written only to make him laugh. Truth be told i care as much about his welfare as i do my own, we correspond daily and i know well of his Lamictal dilemna and he has my total support. Marty and i enjoy humor as it helps us remember that laughter is important to one's well being, and replacing our tears with occasional laughter is healthy for us. In no way was this done in a mean spirited kind of way, as i would rather hurt myself than hurt my good friend Marty!
CH
Posted by MARTY on June 9, 2006, at 17:12:49
In reply to Re: Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had. » MARTY, posted by Crazy Horse on June 8, 2006, at 23:03:34
Mr.Monte,I can't believe you last message, I almost cryed ... when I saw that GROSS ERROR of your part: Lamictal isn't metabilized by the liver, but by the ears. And so would require, just like you had, a Complete Lobotomy. I heard it wasn't as bad as it seems since they are now able to do it without any surgery: they gives you a drug that can melt your brain and then they suck the brain juice right from your nose. I think this drug is call Parnate .. ;)
I should sue you for mental cruelty.. sniff sniff. :D
HUMOUR IS GOOD FOR MENTAL HEALTH. Take it as it is: Humour!
Half-Brained Marty
> Dearest Martin,
> After reading your threads/posts during the past 3 months, my collegues and i have reached the conclusion that a partial labotomy would most likely be your best chance for a mentally stable existance. Being that Lamotrigine is hepatically metabolized via glucuronidation with subsequent renal excretion of the inactive glucurinide, and the fact that it has a weak inhibitory effect on 5-HT3 receptors, yet is still not capable of eliminating your primary problematic psychiatric symptoms points clearly to the need for immediate partial labotomy which we believe will at a minimum stabilize and decrease your chances of relapse depression.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dr. C.H.Horse :)
Posted by MARTY on June 9, 2006, at 17:17:56
In reply to Lamictal, posted by waterfall on June 9, 2006, at 0:13:16
> Afraid this thread just got too mean for my blood. The little smiley face at the end doesn't completely rid the aftertaste of something too cold for comfort.
I feel sorry you thought it was a mean attack of CrazyHorse. Dont worry, as he said we are good friends and he known I was to be amused by that post. He just wanted to make me smile..
> Best wishes dealing with the lamictal, Marty,Thanks a lot Waterfall! hope you're doing well.
Marty
Posted by pulse on June 11, 2006, at 8:57:35
In reply to Re: Lamictal, posted by Crazy Horse on June 9, 2006, at 9:33:12
i'm not yet 'friendly' with either you or marty, buy it was MORE than obvious you partial lobotomy post was all in jest.
thanks for injecting some much needed humor - else these threads do tend to turn too cold....
after all, it IS bloody sunday.
pax,
pulse
Posted by pulse on June 11, 2006, at 9:18:40
In reply to Re: Lamictal » Crazy Horse, posted by pulse on June 11, 2006, at 8:57:35
p.s. forgot to mention that i'd always kind of envied the 'new, improved' francis farmer.
the complete lobotomy HAD to be better than her life, her 'lovely mother' (especially), and her 'social' treatment at at least one of those institutions.
now with scientific breakthough advances, such as this ear technique you mention, i fully admit i'm both intrigued and tempted.
all kidding aside, good luck with this lamictal anxiety - if that's what it turns out to be. i wouldn't know; i couldn't handle lamictal at even 12.5 mg - the SEs were just so harsh (for me).
pulse
Posted by MARTY on June 11, 2006, at 17:55:13
In reply to Re: Lamictal, posted by pulse on June 11, 2006, at 9:18:40
LOL
I'll make some call at my local Lobotomy Lab, maybe they do special prices for groups? would be amazing.. ;)
Pulse, what was your side effects on Lamictal ?
Marty
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2006, at 18:05:01
In reply to Re: Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had., posted by MARTY on June 9, 2006, at 17:12:49
> a partial labotomy would most likely be your best chance for a mentally stable existance.
>
> Crazy Horse> Lamictal isn't metabilized by the liver, but by the ears.
>
> MARTYPlease don't treat injury (including that from a medical procedure) lightly or post information that you know to be false.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're bad people.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
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Thanks,
Bob
Posted by pulse on June 11, 2006, at 18:54:57
In reply to Re: Lamictal » pulse, posted by MARTY on June 11, 2006, at 17:55:13
hi Marty!
lamictal at only 12.5 mg. had the usual side-effects for me: upper and lower GI.
i was on this one for so little a time, i can't remember other SEs, but i'm sure there were some more. one had something to do with cognition, but nothing trumps GI for me. incidently, (shhh!) i was told by this pdoc #10%$?# that he was SURE i'd do very well on lamictal; i was a perfect candidate. hrrmp....
sorry i can't be more helpful in this way...or with any more of the humor that helps us so much - when all else fails.
best regards,
pulse
Posted by Donna Louise on June 14, 2006, at 7:45:39
In reply to Re: Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had., posted by MARTY on June 9, 2006, at 17:12:49
I can't stop laughing!!...metabolized by the ears!! whoooweee. I wasn't expecting that, I was just reading along....Thanks so much for that. You guys are too funny.
Donna
>
> Mr.Monte,
>
> I can't believe you last message, I almost cryed ... when I saw that GROSS ERROR of your part: Lamictal isn't metabilized by the liver, but by the ears. And so would require, just like you had, a Complete Lobotomy. I heard it wasn't as bad as it seems since they are now able to do it without any surgery: they gives you a drug that can melt your brain and then they suck the brain juice right from your nose. I think this drug is call Parnate .. ;)
>
> I should sue you for mental cruelty.. sniff sniff. :D
>
> HUMOUR IS GOOD FOR MENTAL HEALTH. Take it as it is: Humour!
>
> Half-Brained Marty
>
> > Dearest Martin,
> > After reading your threads/posts during the past 3 months, my collegues and i have reached the conclusion that a partial labotomy would most likely be your best chance for a mentally stable existance. Being that Lamotrigine is hepatically metabolized via glucuronidation with subsequent renal excretion of the inactive glucurinide, and the fact that it has a weak inhibitory effect on 5-HT3 receptors, yet is still not capable of eliminating your primary problematic psychiatric symptoms points clearly to the need for immediate partial labotomy which we believe will at a minimum stabilize and decrease your chances of relapse depression.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dr. C.H.Horse :)
>
>
Posted by 45mercySt on June 16, 2006, at 23:04:24
In reply to Lamictal hard to stop?! Panic attack, never had., posted by MARTY on June 8, 2006, at 1:30:20
Hi there,
I've been on Lamictal in the past and again now for about 2 years. I remember feeling depressed and anxious when I came off the first time. This second time around, I've occasionally gone 3-4 days without meds (slow to refill prescription) again, I've noticed a tendency to have nightmares and do feel generally more anxious. So it may be the lamicatal cessation, but in my experience, it probably will not last long. If you feel really uncomforatble, your doctor might give you a little Ativan PRN until the uneasy feeling subsides. Good luck, and let me know how it works out.
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