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Posted by Maxime on April 10, 2006, at 12:34:14
In reply to Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 11:19:21
Below is the main question I have about Parnate. And it's not drowsiness it's FATIGUE. For a while I was taking 30 mg of Adderall XR with it and that helped a lot. But I just don't understand how a stimulating can cause that afternoon fatigue either.
Maxime
> 2) Fatigue- How can an activating drug like Parnate cause fatigue? Well, I don't know for sure how it does, but it can and does for many people. I still have a problem with this. When it first happened I blamed it on the Trazodone, and rightly so, the Traz was partially responsible. But even after traz was down to 150 mgs. I still had it, but not as bad.
Posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 13:13:10
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by Maxime on April 10, 2006, at 12:34:14
> Below is the main question I have about Parnate. And it's not drowsiness it's FATIGUE. For a while I was taking 30 mg of Adderall XR with it and that helped a lot. But I just don't understand how a stimulating can cause that afternoon fatigue either.
>
> Maxime
>
>
> > 2) Fatigue- How can an activating drug like Parnate cause fatigue? Well, I don't know for sure how it does, but it can and does for many people. I still have a problem with this. When it first happened I blamed it on the Trazodone, and rightly so, the Traz was partially responsible. But even after traz was down to 150 mgs. I still had it, but not as bad.
>My first guess is that it is a side effect that goes away with time. Or, if you aren't sleeping well, it could be related to that-poor sleep or insomnia. Also, check your blood pressure freguently especially when you are tired-low bld. pressure can cause fatigue, and Parnate can cause low bld. pressure. If you do have Low Bld. pressure increasing your salt intake throughout the day can help. For you Maxime, I know you don't eat a lot so you could buy some Salt Tablets. It's all trial and error. And most impt. I think is spreading your dosages out throughout the day...Not too late though because of the insomnia factor. Dif strokes for dif. folks, I talked to one guy who swore by taking Parnate ever 2 hrs. He said he did this until about 6:00 pm every day and he had no fatigue. For me I take my largest dose 80 mgs. first thing in the morn. , second dose around noon- 30mgs. and last dose at 2-2:30 20 mgs.
Of course your just starting out, so I would take all in the morning..or whatever works for you. Also, I find it helpful when I do feel a dip in energy to push through it, in other words I don't succumd to it by laying down. If i push through and keep busy I find it dissapates rapidly.
I guess we just have to try different things to see what works for us. Even when I do get really fatigued I still feel good..so that's a major plus over being exhausted and depressed.:)
Maxime, what's your current dosage? How are you feeling? Are you sleeping well?
Tyler
Posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 13:22:05
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by linkadge on April 10, 2006, at 12:25:29
> I had both problems on parnate. I believe the fatigue came from the insomnia, or lack of deep sleep. At least that is what I thought.
>
> LinkadgeYea, insomnia will definitely cause fatigue. When I was on parnate the first time back in 1997, my pdoc gave me nothing for insomnia...said it would pass. Well, it didn't and I went off Parnate because I was so exhausted and felt like hell from little or no sleep. This has been the biggest difference in why I'm doing so well on Parnate this time...I'm sleeping. And, i have found that it's becomming easier and easier for me to sleep the longer i'm on parnate. My goal is to eventually sleep without using any sleep aid at all. I really believe this will happen soon... Tyler
Posted by JaclinHyde on April 10, 2006, at 13:45:02
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! » linkadge, posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 13:22:05
Sleep is oh so important when you are on a drug like Parnate. I have pulled all nighters just because I took my pills too late and also because I just felt like cleaning something (I swaar!) But boy is it hell the next day. I still say the afternoon fatigue is from the mornng dose waaring off. Plus have you ever felt tired around 3ish? Alot of people do for some reason. Then they get their second wind and go on with their day. The Mexicans have it right, siestas are very good for the body and mind.
Here she goes blabbering again....:-)
JH
Posted by tygereyes on April 10, 2006, at 15:56:38
In reply to Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 11:19:21
I don't mind insomnia. Really, I don't. What I have minded about Parnate is the fact that, on the drug, it has become routine for me to stay awake for 48 to 72 hours. I cannot take benzos because I have abused every single benzo I have ever taken, and all benzo experiences have led to IV heroin relapses even with precautions. Ambien led to amnesia and binge eating, even if I went to bed immediately after taking it; I'd wake up and find myself in the middle of the Bronx in a grocery store, eating. SCARY. (& I'm a recovering anorectic, so this was even more scary for me.) Even low-dose tricyclics exacerbate my borderline personality disorder symptoms, and Trazodone caused panic attacks at even the lowest doses. Rozerem might have been a placebo for all the good it did, and Lunesta knocked me out so deeply that I began missing days of work. So I got into the habit of staying up for three days and then sleeping on the third day, which was not healthy for me at all.
Plus, the acne. My skin has never looked like this before. I look like the "before" picture of an Accutane commercial. I have tried Antibiotics, topical treatments, can't take the pill because I have Interstitial Cystitis and it worsens my bladder symptoms too much ... maybe it's superficial, but I have Body Dysmorphic Disorder and I want to cry every time I have to go outside. My face is covered in red pimples. I look disgusting. My family and friends comment on it constantly.
I, for one, cannot wait for Emsam.
> There is no such thing as the perfect drug, it just doesn't exist. When I ask my Pdoc if a particular drug has side effects he say's, "Yep, there are no free lunches."
>
> Even Parnate, the drug that has helped me so much has side effects. Through study, your help and advice, my doc's advice, and just waiting for some to dissapear, I finally feel like I'm getting the upper hand on these side effects.
>
> For me there have been 2 side effects that have been probematic with my great response to Parnate:
>
> 1) INSOMNIA- most everyone gets Insomnia when they take Parnate, the Lucky ones just take ambien or lunesta and they sleep great. Well, it wasn't that easy for me. Unfortunately, niether ambien nor lunesta work for me. Initially Trazodone worked, but I had to keep raising the dose all the way up to 400 mgs. Yea, it helped me sleep, but man did I ever feel tired and sluggish the next day. Then for awhile I took Benadryl with the Trazodone and the hangover was even worse. Now after being on Parnate for about 2 1/2 mos. the insomnia is not so bad, I currently take 150mgs. of Traz and sleep just fine, no hangover or sleepiness the next day.
>
> 2) Fatigue- How can an activating drug like Parnate cause fatigue? Well, I don't know for sure how it does, but it can and does for many people. I still have a problem with this. When it first happened I blamed it on the Trazodone, and rightly so, the Traz was partially responsible. But even after traz was down to 150 mgs. I still had it, but not as bad.
> These are the main theorys as to why Parnate causes fatigue: 1. It has a short half life-so you need to spread your dose out throughout the day. 2. It causes hypotension, which can cause one to feel fatigued. 3. Fatigue is a side effect that given time will dissapear.
>
> I have found all 3 to be true. I used to take my full dose all in the morning. Now I spread it out, dose in the morning, one at noon, and another at 2-2:30. Doing this has greatly reduced the fatigue. I also discovered that parnate was causing me to experience hypotension. To help with this my doc reduced my hypertension med, and I found that adding extra salt to my food has also helped. And finally I do believe that the fatigue I had was partially do to just getting use to the drug. With time Fatigue has become less of a problem.
>
> Parnate is still the best AD I have ever taken, but is it perfect? No! There are no free lunches you know! :)
>
> Tyler
Posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 16:30:18
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by tygereyes on April 10, 2006, at 15:56:38
> I don't mind insomnia. Really, I don't. What I have minded about Parnate is the fact that, on the drug, it has become routine for me to stay awake for 48 to 72 hours. I cannot take benzos because I have abused every single benzo I have ever taken, and all benzo experiences have led to IV heroin relapses even with precautions. Ambien led to amnesia and binge eating, even if I went to bed immediately after taking it; I'd wake up and find myself in the middle of the Bronx in a grocery store, eating. SCARY. (& I'm a recovering anorectic, so this was even more scary for me.) Even low-dose tricyclics exacerbate my borderline personality disorder symptoms, and Trazodone caused panic attacks at even the lowest doses. Rozerem might have been a placebo for all the good it did, and Lunesta knocked me out so deeply that I began missing days of work. So I got into the habit of staying up for three days and then sleeping on the third day, which was not healthy for me at all.
>
> Plus, the acne. My skin has never looked like this before. I look like the "before" picture of an Accutane commercial. I have tried Antibiotics, topical treatments, can't take the pill because I have Interstitial Cystitis and it worsens my bladder symptoms too much ... maybe it's superficial, but I have Body Dysmorphic Disorder and I want to cry every time I have to go outside. My face is covered in red pimples. I look disgusting. My family and friends comment on it constantly.
>
> I, for one, cannot wait for Emsam.
>
>
> > There is no such thing as the perfect drug, it just doesn't exist. When I ask my Pdoc if a particular drug has side effects he say's, "Yep, there are no free lunches."
> >
> > Even Parnate, the drug that has helped me so much has side effects. Through study, your help and advice, my doc's advice, and just waiting for some to dissapear, I finally feel like I'm getting the upper hand on these side effects.
> >
> > For me there have been 2 side effects that have been probematic with my great response to Parnate:
> >
> > 1) INSOMNIA- most everyone gets Insomnia when they take Parnate, the Lucky ones just take ambien or lunesta and they sleep great. Well, it wasn't that easy for me. Unfortunately, niether ambien nor lunesta work for me. Initially Trazodone worked, but I had to keep raising the dose all the way up to 400 mgs. Yea, it helped me sleep, but man did I ever feel tired and sluggish the next day. Then for awhile I took Benadryl with the Trazodone and the hangover was even worse. Now after being on Parnate for about 2 1/2 mos. the insomnia is not so bad, I currently take 150mgs. of Traz and sleep just fine, no hangover or sleepiness the next day.
> >
> > 2) Fatigue- How can an activating drug like Parnate cause fatigue? Well, I don't know for sure how it does, but it can and does for many people. I still have a problem with this. When it first happened I blamed it on the Trazodone, and rightly so, the Traz was partially responsible. But even after traz was down to 150 mgs. I still had it, but not as bad.
> > These are the main theorys as to why Parnate causes fatigue: 1. It has a short half life-so you need to spread your dose out throughout the day. 2. It causes hypotension, which can cause one to feel fatigued. 3. Fatigue is a side effect that given time will dissapear.
> >
> > I have found all 3 to be true. I used to take my full dose all in the morning. Now I spread it out, dose in the morning, one at noon, and another at 2-2:30. Doing this has greatly reduced the fatigue. I also discovered that parnate was causing me to experience hypotension. To help with this my doc reduced my hypertension med, and I found that adding extra salt to my food has also helped. And finally I do believe that the fatigue I had was partially do to just getting use to the drug. With time Fatigue has become less of a problem.
> >
> > Parnate is still the best AD I have ever taken, but is it perfect? No! There are no free lunches you know! :)
> >
> > Tyler
>
>
Your family and friends comment on your acne all the time...That's not cool at all! Tiger, just my opinion, but i agree that the patch may be a better med for you. Parnate gives you way too many side effects. You deserve better. I hope you get on EMSAM soon and it works great for you! :)Tyler
Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 20:19:05
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! » tygereyes, posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 16:30:18
I'm waiting til I can find a doctor to try the patch John David is going to help me. Love phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 20:22:19
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 20:19:05
Robert David Love Phillipa I'm horrible with names
Posted by Caedmon on April 10, 2006, at 20:47:21
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by tygereyes on April 10, 2006, at 15:56:38
Good for you Tyler! I suspect I will get hypotension and insomnia as well, and I'll live with it. I don't mind stimulation as I am subsyndromal ADD anyway.
> Plus, the acne. ... and I want to cry every time I have to go outside. My face is covered in red pimples. I look disgusting. My family and friends comment on it constantly.>I'm sorry to hear of this tygereyes! I have severe cystic acne and I know what it's like to be acutely aware of how you look in the mirror. God, even the fact that basic facial movements can be painful, like smiling or frowning... it drags you down. :(
- C
Posted by TylerJ on April 11, 2006, at 5:48:52
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 20:19:05
> I'm waiting til I can find a doctor to try the patch John David is going to help me. Love phillipa
That's awesome Phillipa..I bet it's going to change your life for the better!! J.David sure sounds like he's benefiting from it already. I'll try the patch one day if i need too as well.
Hey, i haven't forgot i owe you a picture. :) We don't have a scanner, so i'll have to do it at my brother's house.
I'm excited for you Jan, I really am!
Tyler
Posted by TylerJ on April 11, 2006, at 5:51:17
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! » Phillipa, posted by TylerJ on April 11, 2006, at 5:48:52
> > I'm waiting til I can find a doctor to try the patch John David is going to help me. Love phillipa
>
> That's awesome Phillipa..I bet it's going to change your life for the better!! J.David sure sounds like he's benefiting from it already. I'll try the patch one day if i need too as well.
>
> Hey, i haven't forgot i owe you a picture. :) We don't have a scanner, so i'll have to do it at my brother's house.
>
> I'm excited for you Jan, I really am!
>
> TylerNow you got me calling him John David! LOL :)
Posted by TylerJ on April 11, 2006, at 5:55:55
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by Caedmon on April 10, 2006, at 20:47:21
> Good for you Tyler! I suspect I will get hypotension and insomnia as well, and I'll live with it. I don't mind stimulation as I am subsyndromal ADD anyway.
>
> > Plus, the acne. ... and I want to cry every time I have to go outside. My face is covered in red pimples. I look disgusting. My family and friends comment on it constantly.>
>
> I'm sorry to hear of this tygereyes! I have severe cystic acne and I know what it's like to be acutely aware of how you look in the mirror. God, even the fact that basic facial movements can be painful, like smiling or frowning... it drags you down. :(
>
> - CYou guys...I feel so sorry for you about the acne, it breaks my heart. We need to ask Ed if he has any ideas that might help you both. There's got to be something!!
Tyler
What are your thoughts Ed?
Posted by Maxime on April 11, 2006, at 10:55:47
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! » Maxime, posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 13:13:10
Hi
I'm on 30 mg now. I have an awful cold and I can't take anything, so I am sleeping all the time. Yup, I am pretty sick right now.
Maxime
> > Below is the main question I have about Parnate. And it's not drowsiness it's FATIGUE. For a while I was taking 30 mg of Adderall XR with it and that helped a lot. But I just don't understand how a stimulating can cause that afternoon fatigue either.
> >
> > Maxime
> >
> >
> > > 2) Fatigue- How can an activating drug like Parnate cause fatigue? Well, I don't know for sure how it does, but it can and does for many people. I still have a problem with this. When it first happened I blamed it on the Trazodone, and rightly so, the Traz was partially responsible. But even after traz was down to 150 mgs. I still had it, but not as bad.
> >
>
> My first guess is that it is a side effect that goes away with time. Or, if you aren't sleeping well, it could be related to that-poor sleep or insomnia. Also, check your blood pressure freguently especially when you are tired-low bld. pressure can cause fatigue, and Parnate can cause low bld. pressure. If you do have Low Bld. pressure increasing your salt intake throughout the day can help. For you Maxime, I know you don't eat a lot so you could buy some Salt Tablets. It's all trial and error. And most impt. I think is spreading your dosages out throughout the day...Not too late though because of the insomnia factor. Dif strokes for dif. folks, I talked to one guy who swore by taking Parnate ever 2 hrs. He said he did this until about 6:00 pm every day and he had no fatigue. For me I take my largest dose 80 mgs. first thing in the morn. , second dose around noon- 30mgs. and last dose at 2-2:30 20 mgs.
>
> Of course your just starting out, so I would take all in the morning..or whatever works for you. Also, I find it helpful when I do feel a dip in energy to push through it, in other words I don't succumd to it by laying down. If i push through and keep busy I find it dissapates rapidly.
>
> I guess we just have to try different things to see what works for us. Even when I do get really fatigued I still feel good..so that's a major plus over being exhausted and depressed.:)
>
> Maxime, what's your current dosage? How are you feeling? Are you sleeping well?
>
> Tyler
Posted by Maxime on April 11, 2006, at 10:58:13
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! » Maxime, posted by TylerJ on April 10, 2006, at 13:13:10
Hi
I'm on 30 mg now. I have an awful cold and I can't take anything, so I am sleeping all the time. Yup, I am pretty sick right now.
Maxime
> > Below is the main question I have about Parnate. And it's not drowsiness it's FATIGUE. For a while I was taking 30 mg of Adderall XR with it and that helped a lot. But I just don't understand how a stimulating can cause that afternoon fatigue either.
> >
> > Maxime
> >
> >
> > > 2) Fatigue- How can an activating drug like Parnate cause fatigue? Well, I don't know for sure how it does, but it can and does for many people. I still have a problem with this. When it first happened I blamed it on the Trazodone, and rightly so, the Traz was partially responsible. But even after traz was down to 150 mgs. I still had it, but not as bad.
> >
>
> My first guess is that it is a side effect that goes away with time. Or, if you aren't sleeping well, it could be related to that-poor sleep or insomnia. Also, check your blood pressure freguently especially when you are tired-low bld. pressure can cause fatigue, and Parnate can cause low bld. pressure. If you do have Low Bld. pressure increasing your salt intake throughout the day can help. For you Maxime, I know you don't eat a lot so you could buy some Salt Tablets. It's all trial and error. And most impt. I think is spreading your dosages out throughout the day...Not too late though because of the insomnia factor. Dif strokes for dif. folks, I talked to one guy who swore by taking Parnate ever 2 hrs. He said he did this until about 6:00 pm every day and he had no fatigue. For me I take my largest dose 80 mgs. first thing in the morn. , second dose around noon- 30mgs. and last dose at 2-2:30 20 mgs.
>
> Of course your just starting out, so I would take all in the morning..or whatever works for you. Also, I find it helpful when I do feel a dip in energy to push through it, in other words I don't succumd to it by laying down. If i push through and keep busy I find it dissapates rapidly.
>
> I guess we just have to try different things to see what works for us. Even when I do get really fatigued I still feel good..so that's a major plus over being exhausted and depressed.:)
>
> Maxime, what's your current dosage? How are you feeling? Are you sleeping well?
>
> Tyler
Posted by TylerJ on April 11, 2006, at 11:20:59
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back!, posted by Maxime on April 11, 2006, at 10:58:13
> Hi
>
> I'm on 30 mg now. I have an awful cold and I can't take anything, so I am sleeping all the time. Yup, I am pretty sick right now.
>
> Maxime
>
>
> > > Below is the main question I have about Parnate. And it's not drowsiness it's FATIGUE. For a while I was taking 30 mg of Adderall XR with it and that helped a lot. But I just don't understand how a stimulating can cause that afternoon fatigue either.
> > >
> > > Maxime
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2) Fatigue- How can an activating drug like Parnate cause fatigue? Well, I don't know for sure how it does, but it can and does for many people. I still have a problem with this. When it first happened I blamed it on the Trazodone, and rightly so, the Traz was partially responsible. But even after traz was down to 150 mgs. I still had it, but not as bad.
> > >
> >
> > My first guess is that it is a side effect that goes away with time. Or, if you aren't sleeping well, it could be related to that-poor sleep or insomnia. Also, check your blood pressure freguently especially when you are tired-low bld. pressure can cause fatigue, and Parnate can cause low bld. pressure. If you do have Low Bld. pressure increasing your salt intake throughout the day can help. For you Maxime, I know you don't eat a lot so you could buy some Salt Tablets. It's all trial and error. And most impt. I think is spreading your dosages out throughout the day...Not too late though because of the insomnia factor. Dif strokes for dif. folks, I talked to one guy who swore by taking Parnate ever 2 hrs. He said he did this until about 6:00 pm every day and he had no fatigue. For me I take my largest dose 80 mgs. first thing in the morn. , second dose around noon- 30mgs. and last dose at 2-2:30 20 mgs.
> >
> > Of course your just starting out, so I would take all in the morning..or whatever works for you. Also, I find it helpful when I do feel a dip in energy to push through it, in other words I don't succumd to it by laying down. If i push through and keep busy I find it dissapates rapidly.
> >
> > I guess we just have to try different things to see what works for us. Even when I do get really fatigued I still feel good..so that's a major plus over being exhausted and depressed.:)
> >
> > Maxime, what's your current dosage? How are you feeling? Are you sleeping well?
> >
> > Tyler
>
>Sorry to hear you're not feeling well. Get lots of rest, it's the best thing you can do with a cold. 30 mgs. is good...just keep taking your Parnate and rest. Hope you feel better soon!
Tyler
Posted by ed_uk on April 11, 2006, at 16:16:28
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed » Caedmon, posted by TylerJ on April 11, 2006, at 5:55:55
Hi TJ
I used to have pretty bad acne. I tried lots of different creams and antibiotics but they didn't help. I went on Accutane for 4 months and my acne clearly completely. It never came back. Accutane can be scary though, it's pretty toxic stuff.
Regards
Ed
Posted by TylerJ on April 11, 2006, at 17:33:56
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed » TylerJ, posted by ed_uk on April 11, 2006, at 16:16:28
> Hi TJ
>
> I used to have pretty bad acne. I tried lots of different creams and antibiotics but they didn't help. I went on Accutane for 4 months and my acne clearly completely. It never came back. Accutane can be scary though, it's pretty toxic stuff.
>
> Regards
>
> EdHi Ed,
I don't have acne myself, I was trying to help Tygereyes and Caedmon, I'll make sure they get the message. Thanks. :)TJ
Posted by Caedmon on April 11, 2006, at 19:17:05
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed » TylerJ, posted by ed_uk on April 11, 2006, at 16:16:28
> I used to have pretty bad acne. I tried lots of different creams and antibiotics but they didn't help. I went on Accutane for 4 months and my acne clearly completely. It never came back. Accutane can be scary though, it's pretty toxic stuff.>
My dermatologist won't put me on Accutane (yet). She is reluctant due to the depression side effects that are possible, although I'm not sure that the acne itself is all that great for my mood either. Accutane is probably the only thing I haven't been on. I'm on tazorac, benzaclin, and minocycline 100mg bid. <shrug>
- C
Posted by ed_uk on April 12, 2006, at 10:36:23
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed, posted by Caedmon on April 11, 2006, at 19:17:05
Hi C
May I ask how old you are? - just out of curiosity
Ed
Posted by Caedmon on April 12, 2006, at 14:43:53
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed » Caedmon, posted by ed_uk on April 12, 2006, at 10:36:23
Posted by Phillipa on April 12, 2006, at 15:57:32
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed » Caedmon, posted by ed_uk on April 12, 2006, at 10:36:23
I wish I were as young as you all are. Babies to me. Love Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on April 12, 2006, at 16:11:04
In reply to I'm 23 (nm) » ed_uk, posted by Caedmon on April 12, 2006, at 14:43:53
Posted by ed_uk on April 12, 2006, at 16:16:07
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed, posted by Caedmon on April 11, 2006, at 19:17:05
Hi C
Certain oral contraceptives can treat acne. I don't know whether you're male or female though.
Regards
Ed
Posted by Declan on April 12, 2006, at 20:43:38
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed, posted by Caedmon on April 11, 2006, at 19:17:05
Hi C
You must be able to find something for your acne other than Accutane. I've no idea what. But somewhere in the nutritional medicine field?? Accutane sounds so very scary.
Declan
Posted by Caedmon on April 12, 2006, at 22:40:53
In reply to Re: Parnate side effects...fighting back! Attn Ed » Caedmon, posted by Declan on April 12, 2006, at 20:43:38
I'm male, I would otherwise gladly try a contraceptive. I am not sure what is left in the treatment algorithm pipeline for acne at this point, except the slim chance that some other oral antibiotic would work better. Or to apply benzaclin bid, in the morning and in the afternoon, this can be such a hassle though (it's not like taking a pill). I've heard that ibuprofen or an H2 blocker such as ranitidine could be helpful but I've never really put the effort in those directions.
My sister had to go through two 6-month courses on Accutane before hers cleared up. My mom has acne into her late 40s. So, I don't think I have the time advantage on my side. I take Vitamin E 400IU and fish oil 3 g epa/dha, for a number of things but among them the hopes that it could improve my acne. I've also monkeyed with
Part of my problem is also trichotillomania. I'll post about that in another thread actually. I have severe skin picking issues as a part of that, which probably doesn't help.
- C
short for Caedmon and for Christopher
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