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Posted by Paulbwell on April 8, 2006, at 7:28:50
If you crush and snort Methylphenidate, it;s 10x as effective as if swallowed, is this true?
Cheers
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 8, 2006, at 10:04:07
In reply to Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective, posted by Paulbwell on April 8, 2006, at 7:28:50
Hey there, I don't know, maybe? Maybe some of the effectiveness is lost in the digestive system.
I think snorting it just means that it gets into your bloodstream and hence to your brain faster.
Meri
> If you crush and snort Methylphenidate, it;s 10x as effective as if swallowed, is this true?
>
> Cheers
Posted by ed_uk on April 8, 2006, at 10:30:44
In reply to Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective, posted by Paulbwell on April 8, 2006, at 7:28:50
10 times as effective for what? :)
Posted by linkadge on April 8, 2006, at 10:51:52
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective » Paulbwell, posted by ed_uk on April 8, 2006, at 10:30:44
The neurotoxicity of stimulants is limited by the level of blood concentration they reach at any given time. Snorting ritalin will probably dammage your brain.
Linkadge
Posted by TylerJ on April 8, 2006, at 17:25:59
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective, posted by linkadge on April 8, 2006, at 10:51:52
> The neurotoxicity of stimulants is limited by the level of blood concentration they reach at any given time. Snorting ritalin will probably dammage your brain.
>
> LinkadgeWow...Good job Link.
Tyler
Posted by Phillipa on April 8, 2006, at 17:53:46
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective » linkadge, posted by TylerJ on April 8, 2006, at 17:25:59
I've heard people are taking their kids ritalin and doing this to get high. Love Phillipa
Posted by Paulbwell on April 9, 2006, at 0:04:32
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective, posted by Phillipa on April 8, 2006, at 17:53:46
> I've heard people are taking their kids ritalin and doing this to get high. Love Phillipa
I have read about this dangerous practice and just wondered what the experts thought?
The tabs are for ORAL USE ONLY!
cheers
Posted by linkadge on April 9, 2006, at 8:43:41
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective, posted by Paulbwell on April 9, 2006, at 0:04:32
When you crush and snort ritalin it starts to act just like stronger stimulants like cocaine, and meth. You're going to see dammage to certain brain regions, you're going to see decreased n-acetly-aspartate (a marker of cellular viability), you're going to see more severe crashing etc. So all in all......
Linkadge
Posted by LegWarmers on April 9, 2006, at 16:34:49
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective, posted by linkadge on April 8, 2006, at 10:51:52
> The neurotoxicity of stimulants is limited by the level of blood concentration they reach at any given time. Snorting ritalin will probably dammage your brain.
>
> Linkadge
so.. is that what happened?I mixed it with alcohol so I don't really know if it is more effective... I got drunk faster...
Posted by Declan on April 10, 2006, at 20:15:55
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effective, posted by LegWarmers on April 9, 2006, at 16:34:49
Snorting Ritalin will damge your nose, but I really doubt that it will feel like cocaine at all. There's no real difference IMO between methamphetamine oral and snorted, except a damaged nose. Here 13 kids were taken to hospital for taking way too much Ritalin, up to 15 tablets each. They started to get really sick in class. They must have felt so dreadful. Ritalin's not that great at the best of times, but there was a Dutch kid here a while back who said he was snorking his Ritalin; I wouldn't mind trying that; I wouldn't mind going to Amsterdam either.
Declan
Posted by linkadge on April 11, 2006, at 15:24:57
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by Declan on April 10, 2006, at 20:15:55
Ritalin and cocaine are very similar in their actions on the brain. They both seem to affect the same monoamine reuptake pumps and they both increase dopamine in the neucleus accumbens. Rats will substitute ritalin for cocaine, it just has to be formulated righ. Be carefull. I know some pople on this board have done that and have ended up getting worse down the road.
Linkadge
Posted by tygereyes on April 12, 2006, at 2:47:05
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by Declan on April 10, 2006, at 20:15:55
It "feels" more like amphetamine than cocaine.
<< There's no real difference IMO between methamphetamine oral and snorted >>
Do you mean methylphenidate (Ritalin)? Because there is a HUGE HUGE HUGE difference between methAMPHETAMINE oral and snorted. Less so with Ritalin, but the difference is definitely there. Hits quicker, faster, harder.
> Snorting Ritalin will damge your nose, but I really doubt that it will feel like cocaine at all. There's no real difference IMO between methamphetamine oral and snorted, except a damaged nose. Here 13 kids were taken to hospital for taking way too much Ritalin, up to 15 tablets each. They started to get really sick in class. They must have felt so dreadful. Ritalin's not that great at the best of times, but there was a Dutch kid here a while back who said he was snorking his Ritalin; I wouldn't mind trying that; I wouldn't mind going to Amsterdam either.
> Declan
Posted by Declan on April 12, 2006, at 3:15:48
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by tygereyes on April 12, 2006, at 2:47:05
No TE, I meant methamphetamine. But I took irresponsibly huge oral doses. Ones that would literally kill me now, many years later. (The only thing I liked about snorting it was the pain in the nose and the feeling of achievement that gave me, but I go over that) I couldn't have fitted that much up my nose.
Declan
Posted by tygereyes on April 12, 2006, at 5:19:49
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by Declan on April 12, 2006, at 3:15:48
I'm not sure if this is against p-babble rules, but why didn't you just shoot it?
Though if you didn't get into shooting, it's probably for the better. I now have a needle fetish and several collapsed veins. Cannot imagine ingesting a drug for recreational purposes without IV injection. Even shot benzos on my last run to come down from the heroin - if you want to burn your veins up fast, this is a surefire way to do it. :(
> No TE, I meant methamphetamine. But I took irresponsibly huge oral doses. Ones that would literally kill me now, many years later. (The only thing I liked about snorting it was the pain in the nose and the feeling of achievement that gave me, but I go over that) I couldn't have fitted that much up my nose.
> Declan
Posted by Declan on April 12, 2006, at 17:24:21
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by tygereyes on April 12, 2006, at 5:19:49
Well, Tyger, the injecting came later for me. It was all just coincidence, fashion, recklessness etc. And with opiates there is a financial issue that makes injecting essential, more or less. Needless to say I don't advocate this, or anything else....all part of the warp and weft of human existence. Down to my 0.15mg/d methadone, green tea, reveratrol, r-alpha.......etc etc etc, trying to remain calm and sane. But how did you get benzos to dissolve? (That's enough out of me)
Declan
Posted by tygereyes on April 13, 2006, at 19:27:00
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by Declan on April 12, 2006, at 17:24:21
I'm sorry I don't feel comfortable giving tips on drug abuse here and I think tips on dissolving benzos for injection qualifies. :(
Congrats on getting off the stuff though. It is so hard. There is nothing like shooting dope. You have to accept that when you stop you will NEVER feel that good again, EVER. You have to choose life over heaven. It's a hard choice to make and one that too many people are too afraid to make. My last relapse was a month ago. Sometimes I wonder if it's even realistic to expect myself to stay clean at all.
But then I think about the guy I knew in rehab who DID make it to med school (my dream - to be a doctor - I'm 23 and working my way there) who lost everything when he started shooting fentanyl. And I know I have to love my career more than I love the needle. Or I have to pretend I do, anyway.
> Well, Tyger, the injecting came later for me. It was all just coincidence, fashion, recklessness etc. And with opiates there is a financial issue that makes injecting essential, more or less. Needless to say I don't advocate this, or anything else....all part of the warp and weft of human existence. Down to my 0.15mg/d methadone, green tea, reveratrol, r-alpha.......etc etc etc, trying to remain calm and sane. But how did you get benzos to dissolve? (That's enough out of me)
> Declan
Posted by Declan on April 13, 2006, at 20:57:23
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by tygereyes on April 13, 2006, at 19:27:00
No, Tyger, I was just kidding about the benzo solubility thing. You can imagine over the decades there's all this disreputable stuff you can fish out.
I ended up feeling terrible whether I took narcotics or not. As you say you have to accept feeling bad more or less forever. I can sort of remember why I liked narcotics, but they don't do it for me anymore and I lost the desire to take them, which is reasurring.
Declan
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 14, 2006, at 19:28:08
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by tygereyes on April 13, 2006, at 19:27:00
Posted by Rusty2112 on January 25, 2008, at 18:19:48
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by Declan on April 10, 2006, at 20:15:55
Posted by Rusty2112 on January 25, 2008, at 18:35:29
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv (nm), posted by Rusty2112 on January 25, 2008, at 18:19:48
I am a recovering drug addict. Please learn from my terrible mistakes. I have snorted, shot up, and taken just about every drug out there. I have crushed and snorted ritilin many times. Of course it enters youre bloodstream almost immediately which feels allot like meth. ritilin is only one molecule different from methamphtamine. My psychiatrist told me that. Please DON'T DO IT!!! I am lucky to be alive today. Please learn from my terrible mistakes. I have to use fentynyl and oxycodone for chronic pain from Crohn's disease. I also take ritalin as perscribed by my shrink. It is hard to not abuse it, but I don't anymore. I go to NA meetings and talk about it. That helps me stay in touch with what is real. I hope I helped even one person by posting this. Rusty
Posted by Phillipa on January 26, 2008, at 19:46:08
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by Rusty2112 on January 25, 2008, at 18:35:29
Hi Rusty welcome to babble as you can see bottom of board that is a number of boards to post on and great info. If you don't get a response on one in this case I'd go to the main psychobabble board. Again welcome great to have you and hope to help Love Phillipa
Posted by Justherself54 on January 26, 2008, at 23:17:42
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by Rusty2112 on January 25, 2008, at 18:35:29
> I am a recovering drug addict. Please learn from my terrible mistakes. I have snorted, shot up, and taken just about every drug out there. I have crushed and snorted ritilin many times. Of course it enters youre bloodstream almost immediately which feels allot like meth. ritilin is only one molecule different from methamphtamine. My psychiatrist told me that. Please DON'T DO IT!!! I am lucky to be alive today. Please learn from my terrible mistakes. I have to use fentynyl and oxycodone for chronic pain from Crohn's disease. I also take ritalin as perscribed by my shrink. It is hard to not abuse it, but I don't anymore. I go to NA meetings and talk about it. That helps me stay in touch with what is real. I hope I helped even one person by posting this. Rusty
Welcome to Babble and for sharing your story..I'm so glad to see you are in recovery..keep posting..
Posted by bluemonday1968 on January 28, 2008, at 14:44:19
In reply to Re: Crushing and sniffing Ritilin, 10X as effectiv, posted by Justherself54 on January 26, 2008, at 23:17:42
Elizabeth Wurtzel the author of Prozac nation
coverd this subject in her third book Now More
again.It's highly not advisable.
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