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Posted by TylerJ on April 5, 2006, at 15:05:12
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » Declan, posted by MARTY on April 5, 2006, at 14:46:08
> Ahaha
>
> First about the dick feeling thing; It's very personal how one will experience sexual side effects with an AD. For me I got ALL the one I know of, including the 'genital anesthesia' which is a more scientific way of saying "Dick without feelings". Note that Nardil isn't the only AD that has given me this.. ALL AD gave me this and I tried a lot of SSRI. Only Wellbutrin was OK in that regard.
>
> Now for the dosage.. I think 45mg is the lowest therapeutic dosage. But my guess is that as time pass the activating effect diminish enough to make you want to increase you dose to 60mg or 90mg.
>
> I heard that there was a way of calculate the effective dosage. It sounds like 1.5mg for each Kg of your weight (1.5mg/Kg) I may be wrong, in that case expect me to be severly corrected by someone more knowledgeable than me soon enough :P
>
> Marty
>
> > I'm interested in the minimum dose where there is some relef from depression but you can still feel your dick. You hardly ever hear about people on 45mg; I think that's right?
> > Declan
>
>Marty,
When you get on Parnate I bet your wang will come to life again, mine sure did. I'm 47 and I'm as horny as I was at 25. For me Parnate has been an aphrodisiac...I get wood at the drop of a hat, and get worked up just holding hands with my wife. It's sounds crazy, but it's true.Tyler
Posted by Phillipa on April 5, 2006, at 22:06:53
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » MARTY, posted by TylerJ on April 5, 2006, at 15:05:12
I don't have a wang. Ha ha Love Phillipa
Posted by gibber on April 5, 2006, at 22:38:07
In reply to NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! :P, posted by MARTY on April 5, 2006, at 14:24:18
"will my thing fall on the ground?" LOL
I had a numb dick at 75mg and I had insomnia and it wasn't helping depression too much so I got off. ChairmanMAO always said 1mg/kg body weight and testosterone for sexual sides...I don't know how anyone can get a hold of that though.
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:33:18
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! :, posted by gardenergirl on April 5, 2006, at 14:59:15
Hi gardenergirlHow is akathesia for you ? If I shake one of my leg continuously, does it mean I do some akathesia ?
I'd like to know how is the feeling of provigil added on Nardil .. I'm looking forward to try this combinaison. Plz tell me also if you usually do some anxiety and if the provigil increase this anxiety.
Thank a lot,
Very interested in hearing your answers!Marty
> I'm on 52.7 mg (3 and a half tabs). I've tried to get back down to 45 mg to decrease the sexual side effects. I call it anorgasmia, but numbness works. But I've gotten more depressed again at 45 mg and usually go back up. At 60 mg I start getting peripheral edema and urinary retention, and I hate that. I've gone as high as 67.5 before but 75 mg gives me akathisia.
>
> Right now I'm augmenting with 100 mg Lamictal and most recently 200 mg Provigil. I'm tempted to lower back down to 45 mg to see if it's okay. I haven't tried this at 100 of Lamictal before, so it might work.
>
> Ideally, I need to find a decent substitute, since if I get pregnant I will need to go off the Nardil. But right now I'm still all about feeling better.
>
> gg
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:36:57
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » MARTY, posted by TylerJ on April 5, 2006, at 15:05:12
:| Now you got my attention .. I'd like to know if you usually have sexual side effects on other AD (if the answers is yes, which one gives you some and which doesn't give you some)This is very interesting to me since I'm looking forward to try Parnate if I dont get good result on my increased dose of Nardil (60mg->90mg) ..
It should feel so good be have a good sexual life while feeling good on an AD ... never lived that.. except on Wellbutrin
Marty
> > Ahaha
> >
> > First about the dick feeling thing; It's very personal how one will experience sexual side effects with an AD. For me I got ALL the one I know of, including the 'genital anesthesia' which is a more scientific way of saying "Dick without feelings". Note that Nardil isn't the only AD that has given me this.. ALL AD gave me this and I tried a lot of SSRI. Only Wellbutrin was OK in that regard.
> >
> > Now for the dosage.. I think 45mg is the lowest therapeutic dosage. But my guess is that as time pass the activating effect diminish enough to make you want to increase you dose to 60mg or 90mg.
> >
> > I heard that there was a way of calculate the effective dosage. It sounds like 1.5mg for each Kg of your weight (1.5mg/Kg) I may be wrong, in that case expect me to be severly corrected by someone more knowledgeable than me soon enough :P
> >
> > Marty
> >
> > > I'm interested in the minimum dose where there is some relef from depression but you can still feel your dick. You hardly ever hear about people on 45mg; I think that's right?
> > > Declan
> >
> >
>
> Marty,
> When you get on Parnate I bet your wang will come to life again, mine sure did. I'm 47 and I'm as horny as I was at 25. For me Parnate has been an aphrodisiac...I get wood at the drop of a hat, and get worked up just holding hands with my wife. It's sounds crazy, but it's true.
>
> Tyler
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:42:38
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! :, posted by gibber on April 5, 2006, at 22:38:07
Got to know Mao_Chairman had succes with testosterone. I may try it if I don't find any other antidote. I already got the OK from my PDoc.. I very lucky since I get EVERYTHING I want in the dose a want from my pdoc.. she's my little personnal drug dealer :P saddly the ONLY thing she refused me is an antihypertensive crisis antidote.. they don't gime that in Canada she told me. anywayA funny thing is that in the last 3 post in this thread I'm talking about trying 3 differents drugs/treatment .. LOL I just love my Pdoc.. No lost of time.. 1 years MAX and I'll will have try virtually everything I can imagine of. Hopefully finding something before that happens
Marty> "will my thing fall on the ground?" LOL
> I had a numb dick at 75mg and I had insomnia and it wasn't helping depression too much so I got off. ChairmanMAO always said 1mg/kg body weight and testosterone for sexual sides...I don't know how anyone can get a hold of that though.
Posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 10:47:32
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » TylerJ, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:36:57
>
> :| Now you got my attention .. I'd like to know if you usually have sexual side effects on other AD (if the answers is yes, which one gives you some and which doesn't give you some)
>
> This is very interesting to me since I'm looking forward to try Parnate if I dont get good result on my increased dose of Nardil (60mg->90mg) ..
>
> It should feel so good be have a good sexual life while feeling good on an AD ... never lived that.. except on Wellbutrin
>
> Marty
>
>
> > > Ahaha
> > >
> > > First about the dick feeling thing; It's very personal how one will experience sexual side effects with an AD. For me I got ALL the one I know of, including the 'genital anesthesia' which is a more scientific way of saying "Dick without feelings". Note that Nardil isn't the only AD that has given me this.. ALL AD gave me this and I tried a lot of SSRI. Only Wellbutrin was OK in that regard.
> > >
> > > Now for the dosage.. I think 45mg is the lowest therapeutic dosage. But my guess is that as time pass the activating effect diminish enough to make you want to increase you dose to 60mg or 90mg.
> > >
> > > I heard that there was a way of calculate the effective dosage. It sounds like 1.5mg for each Kg of your weight (1.5mg/Kg) I may be wrong, in that case expect me to be severly corrected by someone more knowledgeable than me soon enough :P
> > >
> > > Marty
> > >
> > > > I'm interested in the minimum dose where there is some relef from depression but you can still feel your dick. You hardly ever hear about people on 45mg; I think that's right?
> > > > Declan
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Marty,
> > When you get on Parnate I bet your wang will come to life again, mine sure did. I'm 47 and I'm as horny as I was at 25. For me Parnate has been an aphrodisiac...I get wood at the drop of a hat, and get worked up just holding hands with my wife. It's sounds crazy, but it's true.
> >
> > Tyler
>
>I had sexual side effects with Nardil too. And many other AD's that I can't remember gave me delayed orgasm-and some complete anorgasmia. Nardil was the worst for me, I do remember that. The others were ssri's and ssri cocktails. Parnate causes 0 sex probs for me.
Ty
Posted by gibber on April 6, 2006, at 12:21:13
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » MARTY, posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 10:47:32
Tyler,
I didn't know you had taken Nardil. What was your response...just ok, not so good? This gives me hope that parnate will work well for me since nardil gave me only a partial response.G
Posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 13:37:46
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! :, posted by gibber on April 6, 2006, at 12:21:13
> Tyler,
> I didn't know you had taken Nardil. What was your response...just ok, not so good? This gives me hope that parnate will work well for me since nardil gave me only a partial response.
>
> GYea, I took it for about 3 mos. in 1997. Like you, I only got a partial response, and a lot of really freaky side-effects. But, I still think it's an excellent medication, and would try it again before going back to ssri's. Parnate (for me) has been far superior to nardil in all aspects. Good Luck.
Tyler
Posted by gardenergirl on April 6, 2006, at 14:54:25
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » gardenergirl, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 3:33:18
> How is akathesia for you ? If I shake one of my leg continuously, does it mean I do some akathesia ?
Akathisia is a feeling of restlessness that feels like you're going to jump out of your skin. It helps to move around, but shaking your leg without the accomanying feeling would not necessarily be related. My husband does that as a sort of nervous habit. If you've felt akathisia, you'd know it. It's really unpleasant. You can't sit still or sleep because you feel so restless.
>
> I'd like to know how is the feeling of provigil added on Nardil ..I don't have a lot of overt symptoms of anxiety, although I do tend to be a little excessive with worry. But my primary issue is atypical depression. Provigil hasn't had any adverse effects so far, except maybe a bit of nausea in the a.m. It hasn't increased anxiety or decreased it. I take it to help with ADHD inattentiveness. It's helping a bit with that, along with helping curb the carb cravings associated with Nardil. I'm not all jumping up and down about it, though. Jury's still out on if it's worth it.
Take care,
gg
Posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 15:32:54
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » MARTY, posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 10:47:32
:) Parnate is so much next on my AD list :PThanks
Marty
> >
> > :| Now you got my attention .. I'd like to know if you usually have sexual side effects on other AD (if the answers is yes, which one gives you some and which doesn't give you some)
> >
> > This is very interesting to me since I'm looking forward to try Parnate if I dont get good result on my increased dose of Nardil (60mg->90mg) ..
> >
> > It should feel so good be have a good sexual life while feeling good on an AD ... never lived that.. except on Wellbutrin
> >
> > Marty
> >
> >
> > > > Ahaha
> > > >
> > > > First about the dick feeling thing; It's very personal how one will experience sexual side effects with an AD. For me I got ALL the one I know of, including the 'genital anesthesia' which is a more scientific way of saying "Dick without feelings". Note that Nardil isn't the only AD that has given me this.. ALL AD gave me this and I tried a lot of SSRI. Only Wellbutrin was OK in that regard.
> > > >
> > > > Now for the dosage.. I think 45mg is the lowest therapeutic dosage. But my guess is that as time pass the activating effect diminish enough to make you want to increase you dose to 60mg or 90mg.
> > > >
> > > > I heard that there was a way of calculate the effective dosage. It sounds like 1.5mg for each Kg of your weight (1.5mg/Kg) I may be wrong, in that case expect me to be severly corrected by someone more knowledgeable than me soon enough :P
> > > >
> > > > Marty
> > > >
> > > > > I'm interested in the minimum dose where there is some relef from depression but you can still feel your dick. You hardly ever hear about people on 45mg; I think that's right?
> > > > > Declan
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Marty,
> > > When you get on Parnate I bet your wang will come to life again, mine sure did. I'm 47 and I'm as horny as I was at 25. For me Parnate has been an aphrodisiac...I get wood at the drop of a hat, and get worked up just holding hands with my wife. It's sounds crazy, but it's true.
> > >
> > > Tyler
> >
> >
>
> I had sexual side effects with Nardil too. And many other AD's that I can't remember gave me delayed orgasm-and some complete anorgasmia. Nardil was the worst for me, I do remember that. The others were ssri's and ssri cocktails. Parnate causes 0 sex probs for me.
>
> Ty
Posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 18:06:57
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » TylerJ, posted by MARTY on April 6, 2006, at 15:32:54
>
> :) Parnate is so much next on my AD list :P
>
> Thanks
>
> Marty
>
> > >
> > > :| Now you got my attention .. I'd like to know if you usually have sexual side effects on other AD (if the answers is yes, which one gives you some and which doesn't give you some)
> > >
> > > This is very interesting to me since I'm looking forward to try Parnate if I dont get good result on my increased dose of Nardil (60mg->90mg) ..
> > >
> > > It should feel so good be have a good sexual life while feeling good on an AD ... never lived that.. except on Wellbutrin
> > >
> > > Marty
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Ahaha
> > > > >
> > > > > First about the dick feeling thing; It's very personal how one will experience sexual side effects with an AD. For me I got ALL the one I know of, including the 'genital anesthesia' which is a more scientific way of saying "Dick without feelings". Note that Nardil isn't the only AD that has given me this.. ALL AD gave me this and I tried a lot of SSRI. Only Wellbutrin was OK in that regard.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now for the dosage.. I think 45mg is the lowest therapeutic dosage. But my guess is that as time pass the activating effect diminish enough to make you want to increase you dose to 60mg or 90mg.
> > > > >
> > > > > I heard that there was a way of calculate the effective dosage. It sounds like 1.5mg for each Kg of your weight (1.5mg/Kg) I may be wrong, in that case expect me to be severly corrected by someone more knowledgeable than me soon enough :P
> > > > >
> > > > > Marty
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm interested in the minimum dose where there is some relef from depression but you can still feel your dick. You hardly ever hear about people on 45mg; I think that's right?
> > > > > > Declan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marty,
> > > > When you get on Parnate I bet your wang will come to life again, mine sure did. I'm 47 and I'm as horny as I was at 25. For me Parnate has been an aphrodisiac...I get wood at the drop of a hat, and get worked up just holding hands with my wife. It's sounds crazy, but it's true.
> > > >
> > > > Tyler
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I had sexual side effects with Nardil too. And many other AD's that I can't remember gave me delayed orgasm-and some complete anorgasmia. Nardil was the worst for me, I do remember that. The others were ssri's and ssri cocktails. Parnate causes 0 sex probs for me.
> >
> > Ty
>
>Good for you Marty...I predit good things are ahead for your wang. :)
Ty
Posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 22:06:05
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » TylerJ, posted by Phillipa on April 5, 2006, at 22:06:53
> I don't have a wang. Ha ha Love Phillipa
I'm so glad you don't Jan! But, probably not near as glad as your husband is. :) LOL
Tyler
Posted by ed_uk on April 7, 2006, at 17:27:31
In reply to Re: NARDIL maximum dosage. Let's the bid start! : » Phillipa, posted by TylerJ on April 6, 2006, at 22:06:05
LOL
Could we please stop using the term wang!
Ed
Posted by MARTY on April 8, 2006, at 2:43:23
In reply to Wangs, posted by ed_uk on April 7, 2006, at 17:27:31
You wang us to stop ? :)Marty
> LOL
>
> Could we please stop using the term wang!
>
> Ed
Posted by ed_uk on April 8, 2006, at 11:00:42
In reply to Re: Wangs » ed_uk, posted by MARTY on April 8, 2006, at 2:43:23
lol
Posted by Phillipa on April 8, 2006, at 21:43:20
In reply to Re: Wangs » MARTY, posted by ed_uk on April 8, 2006, at 11:00:42
Ed not to be personal what do you call yours love PJO
Posted by ed_uk on April 9, 2006, at 12:46:39
In reply to Re: Wangs » ed_uk, posted by Phillipa on April 8, 2006, at 21:43:20
Never called it a wang PJ!
Ed
Posted by yxibow on April 11, 2006, at 3:10:43
In reply to Re: Wangs » Phillipa, posted by ed_uk on April 9, 2006, at 12:46:39
> Never called it a wang PJ!
>
> EdEddy --
I thought the brits used the same term for opening doors... :)
x lol, Jay
Posted by ed_uk on April 11, 2006, at 15:18:30
In reply to Re: Wangs » ed_uk, posted by yxibow on April 11, 2006, at 3:10:43
Hi J,
I just googled wang LOL
http://www.wangcenter.org/index-swf.html
Ed xxx
Posted by yxibow on April 13, 2006, at 0:25:14
In reply to Re: Wangs » yxibow, posted by ed_uk on April 11, 2006, at 15:18:30
> Hi J,
>
> I just googled wang LOL
>
> http://www.wangcenter.org/index-swf.html
>
> Ed xxx
lolOxford English Dictionary
whang, n.1
(hwa{ng}) Also wang. Also 6 Sc. quhayng, quhaing, 7 whange, 9 Sc. quhang; 7 whanck, 7- whank.Etymology
[Variant of thwang, THONG.]1. = THONG n. Sc. and dial.
2. A large or thick slice, esp. of cheese, bread, etc. Sc. and dial.
3. The penis. slang (orig. and chiefly U.S.).
"3. The penis. slang (orig. and chiefly U.S.).
1935 H. L. DAVIS Honey in Horn iii. 34 Leave them horses alone or I'll cut your whang off. 1949 H. MILLER Sexus viii. 250 You say he's got a terrific wang, Bill. I don't know how he ever gets it in there. 1952 N. MAILER Barbary Shore x. 89 Guinevere..went on at length with one of her inexhaustible stories about a lover and his whang. 1959 M. RICHLER Apprenticeship D. Kravitz I. x. 60 He's got a whang that could choke a horse. I know, we had a leak together once. 1969 K. VONNEGUT Slaughterhouse-Five v. 115 Montana was naked, and so was Billy, of course. He had a tremendous wang. 1981 G. HAMMOND Revenge Game ix. 102 Maybe you're not as ready with your whang as you were, or maybe you couldn't keep it up{emem}."
Posted by Crazy Horse on April 13, 2006, at 7:12:53
In reply to Alll you wanted to know but were afraid to ask.... » ed_uk, posted by yxibow on April 13, 2006, at 0:25:14
> > Hi J,
> >
> > I just googled wang LOL
> >
> > http://www.wangcenter.org/index-swf.html
> >
> > Ed xxx
> lol
>
> Oxford English Dictionary
>
> whang, n.1
> (hwa{ng}) Also wang. Also 6 Sc. quhayng, quhaing, 7 whange, 9 Sc. quhang; 7 whanck, 7- whank.
>
> Etymology
> [Variant of thwang, THONG.]
>
> 1. = THONG n. Sc. and dial.
>
> 2. A large or thick slice, esp. of cheese, bread, etc. Sc. and dial.
>
> 3. The penis. slang (orig. and chiefly U.S.).
>
> "3. The penis. slang (orig. and chiefly U.S.).
>
> 1935 H. L. DAVIS Honey in Horn iii. 34 Leave them horses alone or I'll cut your whang off. 1949 H. MILLER Sexus viii. 250 You say he's got a terrific wang, Bill. I don't know how he ever gets it in there. 1952 N. MAILER Barbary Shore x. 89 Guinevere..went on at length with one of her inexhaustible stories about a lover and his whang. 1959 M. RICHLER Apprenticeship D. Kravitz I. x. 60 He's got a whang that could choke a horse. I know, we had a leak together once. 1969 K. VONNEGUT Slaughterhouse-Five v. 115 Montana was naked, and so was Billy, of course. He had a tremendous wang. 1981 G. HAMMOND Revenge Game ix. 102 Maybe you're not as ready with your whang as you were, or maybe you couldn't keep it up{emem}."
>That is too Funny!!! LOL. Ed, if i were you, i would call my 'wang' Mr. Ed. After the program about the talking horse, the wonderful "Mr.Ed." Your pretty young, you may have never heard of it. Anyway.......:)
Posted by Luci on April 13, 2006, at 12:05:52
In reply to Alll you wanted to know but were afraid to ask.... » ed_uk, posted by yxibow on April 13, 2006, at 0:25:14
i can't figure out how to read messages after mine or read mine for that matter
thanks
please help
Posted by ed_uk on April 13, 2006, at 15:33:29
In reply to Re: Alll you wanted to know but were afraid to ask.... » yxibow, posted by Crazy Horse on April 13, 2006, at 7:12:53
LOL Crazy,
THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN NAMING YOUR WANG!!!
Ed
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 14, 2006, at 19:26:29
In reply to Re: Alll you wanted to know but were afraid to ask.... » Crazy Horse, posted by ed_uk on April 13, 2006, at 15:33:29
> THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN NAMING YOUR WANG!!!
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups not regarding medication to Psycho-Babble Social. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20060413/msgs/633192.html
Thanks,
Bob
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