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Posted by CEK on March 25, 2006, at 23:04:58
In reply to Re: This is my first time taking anythingstrungo, posted by CEK on March 25, 2006, at 22:56:24
Also another problem with Effexor was that it made me too easy going. God gave me the ability to get angry or irritated about reasonable things for a reason, to do something about it. On Effexor you could call me turtle and let everything roll off my back. I put up with a lot of crap during those years and I should've stood up for myself and made major changes in my life, but I didn't. It bothered me, but Hey,it wasn't that bad is how I'd think. Without the Effexor I was alble to take control of my life and quit being stepped on.
Posted by Aim on March 27, 2006, at 8:50:36
In reply to Re: This is my first time taking anythingstrungo, posted by CEK on March 25, 2006, at 23:04:58
I have been taking Effexor for about 1 1/2 months now. I have enjoyed my elevated mood change. I feel as though I have returned to the person I like best, "myself." I now see that I was carrying around a cloud of doom for quite some time. Every little thing irritated me and my mood would switch from "happy" to miserable if one little thing bothered me. What I have come to realize is that I was never truely happy, but trying my hardest to be that way and then when life wasnt smooth, it was a "reason" to be able to be miserable.
I am only on 37.5 mg of Effexor XR. My doctor is surprised that it has helped me at such a low dose. I have never been on meds before for anything, so I wanted to take it slow. I am hopeful to not have to increase my dosage, but I am just taking it day by day to see how I feel and so far so good.
Does anyone know how I would be able to tell if I needed to increase my dose?
I would like to one day come off the med completely. I hope to not have to take it everyday for the rest of my life. The way I see it is some time in the next few years I plan on having a baby and since you cant take it while being pregnant I would like to try it without to see how my body reacts and how my mood maintains.
I figure you need to be on the med for a period of time, but not sure how long, before trying to ween off. Maybe 6 months? I dont know.
Posted by CEK on March 28, 2006, at 9:05:47
In reply to Re: This is my first time taking anything, posted by Aim on March 27, 2006, at 8:50:36
I too was just like you with the Effexor. It took away my irritabiliy and stressors seemed not to bother me so much. Effexor was the first antidepressant I had ever taken. When I got up to 75mg I felt really good but it made me crave food all the time and even though I did not want to gain weight I was like" Hey, I feel so good, lets go get pizza and ice cream!" I'd say heck with it and eat it anyway. It also was hard to think on the Effexor. That was good in the sence that I was not able to dwell on my problems, but bad if I needed to learn how to do something. I also got very nausiated on 75mg and found if I only took 37.5 I would not have the nausia or feel like I wanted to eat all the time. I didn't feel so elated on 37.5, but I got enough effect to be able to handle things better. Four months after starting it we started to go through the process of buying our first house, which was very stressful and I felt like I needed more than the 75mg because the stress and anxiety was getting so bad. My doctor upped the dose to 150mg to see if that would help. On 150mg, I couldn't even remember what I ate for breakfast by lunch time and I gained 5lbs a week for 2months. I could not get satisfied when I ate and never felt full. My doctor started to ween me off the medicine slowly and added Buspar to help when I told her what kind of side effects I was having. This was my experience and everyone is different so you might not go through this. They say that higher doses are suppose to be very helpfull for people that are bad off, but if 37.5 was working for you then I wouldn't change it. I wouldn't want to risk loosing my brain function. If you feel good why tamper with it.
Posted by 3djp on March 28, 2006, at 9:44:48
In reply to Re: This is my first time taking anything » Aim, posted by CEK on March 28, 2006, at 9:05:47
> I too was just like you with the Effexor. It took away my irritabiliy and stressors seemed not to bother me so much. Effexor was the first antidepressant I had ever taken. When I got up to 75mg I felt really good but it made me crave food all the time and even though I did not want to gain weight I was like" Hey, I feel so good, lets go get pizza and ice cream!" I'd say heck with it and eat it anyway. It also was hard to think on the Effexor. That was good in the sence that I was not able to dwell on my problems, but bad if I needed to learn how to do something. I also got very nausiated on 75mg and found if I only took 37.5 I would not have the nausia or feel like I wanted to eat all the time. I didn't feel so elated on 37.5, but I got enough effect to be able to handle things better. Four months after starting it we started to go through the process of buying our first house, which was very stressful and I felt like I needed more than the 75mg because the stress and anxiety was getting so bad. My doctor upped the dose to 150mg to see if that would help. On 150mg, I couldn't even remember what I ate for breakfast by lunch time and I gained 5lbs a week for 2months. I could not get satisfied when I ate and never felt full. My doctor started to ween me off the medicine slowly and added Buspar to help when I told her what kind of side effects I was having. This was my experience and everyone is different so you might not go through this. They say that higher doses are suppose to be very helpfull for people that are bad off, but if 37.5 was working for you then I wouldn't change it. I wouldn't want to risk loosing my brain function. If you feel good why tamper with it.
When I started I too was only on 75mg, and yes some of the anxiety were still hanging around. I spoke to my Dr. and he up to only 112.5 mg which seems to helped alot. He didn't want to up it to 150 mg he felt that was too much for my attacks. The anxiety have slowed alot it just picked up alittle these past couple of weeks, I am waiting to hear from a job interview I did a few weeks ago. But all in all I feel pretty good.
Posted by unknown_usr on March 29, 2006, at 11:06:16
In reply to FINALLY, AN END TO EFFEXOR!!! PLUS NEW HELP!!!, posted by Dr. Pritt on March 20, 2006, at 15:16:55
I just started this Effexor stuff. I have been taking Welbutrin 150mg for a long time, but its success has been minimal, leaving me feeling foggy. Before that, it was Prozack which made me robotic. Before that Norpramine, which also had minimal results.
The passed 2 days I have been on 37.5 mg of Effexor and 150 mg of Welbutrin XL. The plan is to take a week at 37.5 with the Welbutrin. Go up to 75 for two weeks and take the Welbutrin every other day, and then go to 150 and drop the Welbutrin altogether.
This seems like a logical plan. But now I hear about the horrors of quitting this med. I am scared. I am also having funky side-effects from this stuff, but nothing unexpected. Like I experienced my first ever bout of insomnia last night, but I'm not surprised since both Effexor and Welbutrin have insomnia as a possible side-effect. I also feel like my heart is racing a little, but I think that's from the coffee and lack of sleep.
Is it worth the risk of withdrawal problems to take this? Does it work well?
Posted by amberlee on March 29, 2006, at 11:15:06
In reply to OK now I am afraid, posted by unknown_usr on March 29, 2006, at 11:06:16
I'm so happy I found this site!!! I have spent many many years on Effexor and I thought I was the only one in the world who had brain zaps!! Thank God for you all!!! They are the worst...I don't have a good doc so I have to kinda figure this out on my own. My Effexor was upped in Jan because of a severe bout with depression. I am now trying to go back to my regular dosage, but hte withdrawals drive me mad. I was on 75ml and then I started taking an extra 37.5 a day....I wanna go back to 75ml, but even trying to decrease by 37.5ml gives my brain zaps!! Anyone got any ideas how to avoid or lessen the severity!!!Thanks
Posted by demon_child_cin-666 on March 29, 2006, at 13:53:13
In reply to OK now I am afraid, posted by unknown_usr on March 29, 2006, at 11:05:46
I was also on Wellbutrin and Effexor, when my doctor put me on the effexor he increased the wellbutrin. The effexor did not end up working for me but I am still on the wellbutrin. Not everyone has a hard time getting off of effexor. I didn't, I stopped taking it when I ended up in the hospital because it was making my mania spin out of control. For me it was safer to just stop taking it than to try and ween myself off. I wanted to hurt myself on it and during the withdrawal the thought never even crossed my mind.
If your scared tell your doctor that you want to increase it very slowly. Maybe wait 4-6 weeks before you do the increase, instead of 1 week. Everyone reacts differently going onto or coming off of any med. It's ok (even good) to be scared, it will keep you more alert to the changes in your body.
> I just started this Effexor stuff. I have been taking Welbutrin 150mg for a long time, but its success has been minimal, leaving me feeling foggy. Before that, it was Prozack which made me robotic. Before that Norpramine, which also had minimal results.
>
> The passed 2 days I have been on 37.5 mg of Effexor and 150 mg of Welbutrin XL. The plan is to take a week at 37.5 with the Welbutrin. Go up to 75 for two weeks and take the Welbutrin every other day, and then go to 150 and drop the Welbutrin altogether.
>
> This seems like a logical plan. But now I hear about the horrors of quitting this med. I am scared. I am also having funky side-effects from this stuff, but nothing unexpected. Like I experienced my first ever bout of insomnia last night, but I'm not surprised since both Effexor and Welbutrin have insomnia as a possible side-effect. I also feel like my heart is racing a little, but I think that's from the coffee and lack of sleep.
>
> Is it worth the risk of withdrawal problems to take this? Does it work well?
>
Posted by detroitpistons on March 29, 2006, at 14:47:00
In reply to OK now I am afraid, posted by unknown_usr on March 29, 2006, at 11:06:16
> Is it worth the risk of withdrawal problems to take this? Does it work well?
Hi,
Don't be scared off by the horror stories. Keep in mind that there are also plenty of people who have come off of Effexor without incident, but you don't hear about those people. Don't let this kind of stuff hold you back from a possibly effective treatment.
Like anything else, you have to weigh the pros and cons. In my case, I had to start taking Effexor again. It was either that or constant misery, no appetite, etc. Effexor has been a great help to lots of people, especially for some who SSRI's don't work for. I don't know how severely depressed you are, so ultimately you have to be the judge.
Some of the SSRI's have easier withdrawals (Paxil is the next worst thing to Effexor though), so you may want to try something like Lexapro. I weaned myself off of Lexapro, however, it still took months to do it, and at the end, I was still having to take 2.5 mg (a tiny dose) every 4 days in order to avoid the symptoms. Lexapro is probably easier than Effexor, but none of these drugs are easy to come off of for most people.
However, you said you didn't like Prozac because it made you feel robotic. Different SSRI's like Lexapro will very likely have a similar effect on you.
>Like I experienced my first ever bout of insomnia last night, but I'm not surprised since both Effexor and Welbutrin have insomnia as a possible side-effect.
While you're starting up on Effexor, insomnia is not uncommon. If it's really bad, your doctor can give you something temporarily to help you sleep. I also have a rapid heartbeat while starting Effexor, and it raises my blood pressure, but not by much.
I think you will eventually find a good solution. Just don't stress yourself out too much with the things you read on the internet.
Posted by jacobs on March 29, 2006, at 22:31:06
In reply to Re: OK now I am afraid, posted by amberlee on March 29, 2006, at 11:15:06
hi i just dropped from 75 to 37.5. but the way i did it was start opening the pills and start taking about 15 to 20 beads out at a time. like the first 3 days i removed 20 beads then the next 3 days i removed 20 more beads till i have gotten down to 37.5(there are about 100 beads in a 37.5)i tried to just drop like my dr said from 75 to 37.5, and the withdraws were just to hard. so havent had it to bad doing it this way. i'm working my way off this med. it worked when i needed it but for me the side effects were not worth it for me. but i think it is just different for everyone, got friends who swear by it. and like i said it worked when i needed it. just got to take it slow getting off it.
Posted by LisaH817 on March 30, 2006, at 16:38:25
In reply to Re: OK now I am afraid, posted by amberlee on March 29, 2006, at 11:15:06
> I'm so happy I found this site!!! I have spent many many years on Effexor and I thought I was the only one in the world who had brain zaps!! Thank God for you all!!! They are the worst...I don't have a good doc so I have to kinda figure this out on my own. My Effexor was upped in Jan because of a severe bout with depression. I am now trying to go back to my regular dosage, but hte withdrawals drive me mad. I was on 75ml and then I started taking an extra 37.5 a day....I wanna go back to 75ml, but even trying to decrease by 37.5ml gives my brain zaps!! Anyone got any ideas how to avoid or lessen the severity!!!Thanks
I was on 150 mg a day and a week ago dropped to 112.5 mg a day. The very first day, I woke up early and had a headache and feeling like I was having withdrawl effects. I took my next dose and started to feel better within about an hour. Every day since it's been getting better. It's been a week now and today I feel pretty good. I have taken some benedryl some days and this other medication I have that's a tranquilizer on occassion that have helped.
Posted by tizza on March 30, 2006, at 23:35:41
In reply to Re: OK now I am afraid, posted by LisaH817 on March 30, 2006, at 16:38:25
benadryl does help a little to get you through the really rough patches, all the best Paul
Posted by CWN266 on April 2, 2006, at 17:46:24
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
My doctor took me off Effexor (37.5mg x 3 daily) on Tuesday of last week, March 28th. I have had the worst 5 days you can imagine. Brain zaps, dizziness, and headaches are the problems. I am able to spend about 2 hours up, and then back to bed for 2 hours. My appetite is fine. I also take 300mg of Wellbutrin daily. I won't go back on this monster. Good luck, my fingers are crossed for you.
Posted by renecoston on April 3, 2006, at 14:17:15
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dosage?, posted by lg on November 7, 1999, at 19:11:05
I was given Effexor XR by my doc (in the trial packs) and started it - taking it for 8 days total. I stopped only because I found information online that said it was worse than Paxil to wean off of - and I went through living hell trying to stop taking Paxil.
I want to find out more on Effexor XR before taking it. It was doing wonders for me during the short time I was taking it. I didn't want to sit on my butt all day like usual, as a matter of fact I was constantly looking for more to do and never felt more energized! I know they say it takes like up to 8 weeks to work, but I saw a difference in 2-3 days!
Can anyone give me some cold hard facts about this stuff? I want to know what you take it for and what it has done for you...and if anyone knows first-hand what it is like to stop taking it, I'd love to hear it!
Posted by Aim on April 4, 2006, at 13:20:30
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dosage?, posted by renecoston on April 3, 2006, at 14:17:15
I have had much success so far. I take effexor xr for depression. I have maintained on 37.5 mg for about 1 1/2 to 2 months now and still feel really good. The only bad thing is I have noticed weight gain. My weight does fluctuate so I am uncertain if it is directly due to the effexor or my eating habits. Anyway, life is no longer gloomy for me and I have mroe energy than before. Effexor did not change my "laziness" and the fact that I enjoy plopping in front of the tv, but now if there isnt anything "good" on I look for something else to do, (unlike before).
I have never been on anything else, nor have I tried to get off the effexor yet. Reading these entries scared me at first too. I decided to take it slow and allow my body to tell me if my dose was adequate. My dr at first did not agree with the 37.5 mg and wanted to increase me to 75mg, but I held out and I am glad I did. Good luck with it all!
Posted by Manicpanic on April 4, 2006, at 18:30:42
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dosage?, posted by Aim on April 4, 2006, at 13:20:30
Hi everyone,
I am new to this thread and have read most of the messages here.
I have dealt with depression and anxiety for most of my life; since I was sixteen. I an now 36 years old and have tried Xanax Alprozalam,
which worked wonders for me for years until I changed doctor's and found out that Xanax is very old and an addictive type of drug. I should have never been on it for 5 years straight.
He put me on Zoloft which caused horrible side effects such as impotence, incredible happiness
which was uncontrollable. I would find myself laughing and giggling for no apparent reason!
Friends and family always asked "what the hell are you laughing about and giggling under your breath all the time for?
I felt stupid afterwards because 15 minutes later I would be so docile and unresponsive that people thought I was strange.
Anyways, After ten years of battling all this I finally took my doctor's advise and visited a
Pyschaitrist. He prescribed me Effexor XR at 37.5mg. I felt the effects immediately! The first few days were amazing! Calm, relaxed, thinking clear and speaking properly. But after a week a started experiencing something my doctor never heard of. It was the opposite of impotence. I had a constant erection and heightened sexual urges for 4 days! Also the sexual activities mu wife and I engaged in went on forever because I could not ejaculate until an hour into it. Not that my wife was complaining though! But it was very frustrating for me because the erection would be back an hour later. It was very hard to sleep with and go through my normal daily duties.
I explained this to my doctor and he felt that perhaps it wasn't working properly due to the dose. He started me on 75mg then on 112.5 mg a day and I have been on this dosage for 3 weeks.
Everthing is fine now, My social interaction is still not there yet. I still find myself avoiding certain social gathering with friends outside of their home or mine.
I feel generally happier and have started to enjoy the things I lost so much interest in before. The anxiety attacks are nonexistant and
I am sleeping better. My energy level is still not there since Exxefor still makes me feel very Lethargic sometimes.
I wanted to quit it after the first month but I am glad I stuck with it because I am now feeling the advantages of it.
Hopefully It carries on this way and I don't need to change drugs again.
a day.
Posted by demon_child_cin-666 on April 4, 2006, at 18:40:38
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dosage?, posted by Aim on April 4, 2006, at 13:20:30
Good for you!!!!!! I'm glad you stood up for yourself, and that you are having so much success!!!! For the weight gain, I suggest armchair aerobics...from one couch potato to another. :) During the commercials you pick a muscle group, and concentrating on those muscles do some slow motions to make them work. You may not lose weight, but after a little while you will notice a difference. Keep up the good work!!
> I have had much success so far. I take effexor xr for depression. I have maintained on 37.5 mg for about 1 1/2 to 2 months now and still feel really good. The only bad thing is I have noticed weight gain. My weight does fluctuate so I am uncertain if it is directly due to the effexor or my eating habits. Anyway, life is no longer gloomy for me and I have mroe energy than before. Effexor did not change my "laziness" and the fact that I enjoy plopping in front of the tv, but now if there isnt anything "good" on I look for something else to do, (unlike before).
>
> I have never been on anything else, nor have I tried to get off the effexor yet. Reading these entries scared me at first too. I decided to take it slow and allow my body to tell me if my dose was adequate. My dr at first did not agree with the 37.5 mg and wanted to increase me to 75mg, but I held out and I am glad I did. Good luck with it all!
Posted by texasangel32 on April 4, 2006, at 23:08:20
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dos » Aim, posted by demon_child_cin-666 on April 4, 2006, at 18:40:38
I have been on effexor xr 75 mg's for 1 week now, and has anyone out there on this medication seemed to have lost taste?I cant taste anything anymore,I have lost my appetite (which is a good thing) but was curious to see if anyone has the symptom as well..I also feel very withdrawn in my own world, is this normal?
Posted by texasangel32 on April 4, 2006, at 23:09:05
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dos » Aim, posted by demon_child_cin-666 on April 4, 2006, at 18:40:38
I have been on effexor xr 75 mg's for 1 week now, and has anyone out there on this medication seemed to have lost taste?I cant taste anything anymore,I have lost my appetite (which is a good thing) but was curious to see if anyone has the symptom as well..I also feel very withdrawn in my own world, is this normal?
Posted by CEK on April 5, 2006, at 0:14:23
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dos, posted by texasangel32 on April 4, 2006, at 23:08:20
I never felt this way on Effexor. Just the opposite. Food tasted so darn good! Too good. Hang in there, it might get better. Sometimes it takes a while. Good luck, CEK
Posted by beaubeau on April 5, 2006, at 0:16:21
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dos, posted by texasangel32 on April 4, 2006, at 23:09:05
hey! I've been on effexor 75mg for 2 months... in my case,, all the adverse effects, the lost interests in appetite, sex, and nausea were gone after a month. there's one thing still bothers me, the sleepiness...but if i were busy i could fight it off...besides this everything's been great!
Posted by nana on April 5, 2006, at 12:04:53
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dos, posted by texasangel32 on April 4, 2006, at 23:09:05
Hello, I also found on 75mg that alot of time I was in my own world and had lost the intense feelings I use to have. I have cut back to 37.5 in the morning and if it is a real stressful day I can take another 37.5 in the afternoon. But lately I have been able to maintain on just one dose. Life is good and I am enjoying it. Hang in there. It is different for everybody.
Posted by beaubeau on April 5, 2006, at 12:44:32
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dos, posted by nana on April 5, 2006, at 12:04:53
hey...i have been on 75mg for 2 months...everything's great now...i've come passed the adverse effects!! ANYWAY I'll be going to beijing for a yr NEXT WEEk..everything's going so well that i totally forgot about EFFEXOR!!! what am i gonna do for the prescription!!! i have an apt with my femily doc next monday...but a yr prescription? i dont think so...and as far as i know there's no the same effexor xr in beijing...what am i gonna do? has anyone accountered similar situation?
Posted by digger on April 6, 2006, at 10:43:41
In reply to Re: starting effexor... keep posting.. success/dos, posted by beaubeau on April 5, 2006, at 12:44:32
This is my first post to this subject but I have been taking Effexor XR (75mg) for about 2 mos. I started with the half dose for a couple of weeks and didn't really have any effects good or bad. I maybe did feel a little less anxious but could possible attribute that to an initial placebo effect (It was the first time I was taking anything for depression in 15 years so I was very conscious of my mood and myself.
The first 2-3 days after increasing the dosage were rough. The first night I could not fall asleep or when I did would immediately be awakened by a nightmare of people screaming at me.
Since those first few days I have been doing great...No more paranoia and greatly reduced anxiety and depression. The only side effect that remains is difficulty reaching a climax (cmming).
I feel as though the elation has diminished but I don't think I need a stronger dose. I probably have just leveled out now after the initial euphoria of having reprieve from the depression.
Posted by Creed on April 7, 2006, at 8:38:34
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
Hi everyone. I just want to tell you about my short time with Effexor XR. I felt like it was working for me within the first week but that could have been the placebo effect! Every side effect that I have is tolerable except for the heart palpatations. I went back to the doctor and asked him if I could stay at 37.5 until the palpatations subside a little more. He agreed. How long will the palpatations last?? The other side effects from taking Effexor are: I found myself talking alot and fast (I'm normally a pretty quiet person), my feet are constantly on the move, insomnia, heart palpatations and my pupils are dialated. I have read many of the posts and no one has said anything about thier pupils being dialated?? Is this normal??
Thank, Creed
Posted by digger on April 7, 2006, at 9:56:17
In reply to My experience with Effexor XR, posted by Creed on April 7, 2006, at 8:38:34
I've been taking Effexor XR (75) for about 10 weeks. After becoming acclimated to it, the only side effect I still have is the difficulty reaching a climax. I occationally have some nightmares and restless sleep remeniscent of the nightmares I had when I first started the higher dosage. (just last night as a matter of fact)
Overall I seem to be having an easier time of it than I am reading about on this thread. My relationships with wife and friends have improved dramatically. Greatly reduced depression, anxiety and paranoia. I am a little concerned now about what it will be like if I ever try to discontiue E -XR though. My doctor lead me to believe I might be able to do so after about one year of treatment. But he did not warn me of any difficulty in slowly reducing until the treatment is elliminated....I am reading through this thread for info from people who have had similar results as I am who have since discontinued treatment.
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