![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 24 of 24. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by tygereyes on November 12, 2005, at 20:24:08
Can MAOIs ever be used safely with cocaine/crack?
Posted by snapper on November 13, 2005, at 1:51:35
In reply to Parnate and cocaine, posted by tygereyes on November 12, 2005, at 20:24:08
WHY? DO YOU HAVE A DEATH WISH OR JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU CAN HAVE A SEVERE CVA.?
Posted by willyee on November 13, 2005, at 4:05:48
In reply to Parnate and cocaine, posted by tygereyes on November 12, 2005, at 20:24:08
This question is totaly absurd.My brother lost his family and life to cocaine.
We are here trying to help each other through LEGAL and SAFE means,you have tons of sites where you can ask those kind of questions,Dr.bob is this permitted here? Id hope not,im personaly offended.
Posted by blackcat23 on November 13, 2005, at 14:07:40
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by willyee on November 13, 2005, at 4:05:48
From what I understand, using cocaine while on an MAOI can/will cause a severe spike in blood pressure and is quite dangerous. If you find that Parnate isn't activating enough, it's safer to ask your doctor if there's a stimilant med that you could augment the Parnate with. Best wishes.
Posted by Bobby on November 13, 2005, at 15:03:56
In reply to Parnate and cocaine, posted by tygereyes on November 12, 2005, at 20:24:08
cocaine and crack are not safe with anything--not even with itself---been there.
Posted by linkadge on November 13, 2005, at 15:38:49
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by Bobby on November 13, 2005, at 15:03:56
Thats like crack on crack.
Linkadge
Posted by becksA on November 14, 2005, at 20:44:12
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by linkadge on November 13, 2005, at 15:38:49
people, that's frustrating to me when people don't answer the question...if you disagree with the poster's lifestyle choices, do not answer the question. they didnt ask your opinion.
Posted by tygereyes on November 14, 2005, at 21:45:39
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by becksA on November 14, 2005, at 20:44:12
> people, that's frustrating to me when people don't answer the question...if you disagree with the poster's lifestyle choices, do not answer the question. they didnt ask your opinion.
THANK YOU.
It is difficult for me to understand the stigma against cocaine on this board by a bunch of speed freaks who take Adderall and MAOIs.
Posted by willyee on November 14, 2005, at 23:43:56
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by tygereyes on November 14, 2005, at 21:45:39
> > people, that's frustrating to me when people don't answer the question...if you disagree with the poster's lifestyle choices, do not answer the question. they didnt ask your opinion.
>
> THANK YOU.
>
> It is difficult for me to understand the stigma against cocaine on this board by a bunch of speed freaks who take Adderall and MAOIs
I dont need to get into the technicality of coke vs maois or amhet......all i know is i knever put on my wifes shoes in an attempt to go get coke,or stole my lil bros game boy games to get it.Whether or not u feel there is a difference your entitled to your opinion,but coke is in no way legal,so its not an option to anyone here so it sould not be spoken on a board which is intended to discuss OPTIONS for depression.
There are plenty of resources for what you ask,many many,let me just plays devils advocate and say wheres the problem,ok today a coke question,tommorrow another,then maybe a crack one.
Do you think it does any good to have questions of coke crack meth herion ecstasy etc here on the same group ?
I know we come near that line a lot,but your question straight buried the line.I am a big advocate of ghb,from time to time ill mention it here,but if u go to google groups/ghb a ghb group there is where i ask extremly detailed questions on how to take it,combinations ,purity etc........i dont bring that here cause its simply inappriate.
i dont care whether its like that i gave my opinion,i did,and i hope we keep questions like that away,again if someone needs an answer to such there are many resources for them,this simply should not be one of them,come on crack with parnate,what next hey group will it be ok to drop my weekly x after taking prozac,or do you think this herion sh*t will interfere with klonopin,it just doesent seem approaite,hate me love me just how i feel.
I am no angel,i knowginly dabble in riskly drugs in desperation for help,but i find suitable resources to inquire about them.
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 16, 2005, at 0:45:56
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by tygereyes on November 14, 2005, at 21:45:39
> a bunch of speed freaks who take Adderall and MAOIs.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Jedi on November 18, 2005, at 23:37:51
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by tygereyes on November 14, 2005, at 21:45:39
>
> It is difficult for me to understand the stigma against cocaine on this board by a bunch of speed freaks who take Adderall and MAOIs.I have been taking an MAOI (phenelzine) for many years so that I can live. There is no reason to compare medications that save people from dying with cocaine.
Jedi
Posted by Bryco on November 30, 2005, at 1:36:46
In reply to MAOIs and cocaine » tygereyes, posted by Jedi on November 18, 2005, at 23:37:51
I also think 'we' should respond correctly to the question, it's better to inform the subject on the matter then to leave him to try it himself and find out he's dead two weeks after.
I guess parnate will increase cocaine effects and will make it last longer.
Offcourse this is not very healthy...
maybe better try sinemet or levodopa?
Posted by okydoky on January 21, 2008, at 16:57:33
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine, posted by Bryco on November 30, 2005, at 1:36:46
Interesting forme
Years ago I was a coke addict. Self medicating depression. Doc put me on Parnate. I was in rehab within about a month and back on parnate soon after not coke. Now about 15 years later i have cognitive problems. ANyone think it could have been the combination?
Posted by EERR11CC on February 19, 2012, at 6:29:33
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine, posted by Bryco on November 30, 2005, at 1:36:46
What works works. If you can function and love thanks to some form of anti-depressant than you are successfully using that AD. From what I understand chewing coca leaves is an ancient and safe practice.
No idea if you can take MAOI's with cocaine, if you're dead set on it start low and go slow.
Posted by Maisey on February 19, 2012, at 11:16:31
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine, posted by EERR11CC on February 19, 2012, at 6:29:33
I don't know how anyone can use cocaine or even marijuana for that matter. Did you not hear about the two men that kidnapped and killed a woman in Montana after taking cocaine, claiming the drug led them to the devil? With even pot, unless you grow it yourself, it can be laced with who knows what. And, you're going to mix it with a MAOI of all things?? You're not even supposed to mix an MAOI with cough syrup!
I would prepare yourself to spend the rest of your life behind bars or prepare for death, because there are a lot more people carrying guns now than you think - people who won't hesitate to use them if they feel threatened. I'm seriously thinking of buying a handgun myself b/c of more and more people either doing or recommending stupid stuff.... Just something to keep in mind.
Posted by SLS on February 19, 2012, at 13:12:09
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine, posted by Maisey on February 19, 2012, at 11:16:31
> more and more people either doing or recommending stupid stuff....
Stupid or not, severe, unremitting depression is a desperate condition that leads to desperate acts.
- Scott
Posted by JohnLA on February 19, 2012, at 13:28:45
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine » Maisey, posted by SLS on February 19, 2012, at 13:12:09
friggin' a right scott...
wish i could use the f-bomb to make my point.
hmmm...desperate to let them shock us even. how desperate is that for relief? so easy to judge when someone knows not of the pain somebody is in.
when i was teaching (art history) i could not understand how vincent van gogh (or anyone) could kill himself. i would read some of the beautiful letters he would right to his brother theo to my students. one line of his stood out; 'the sadness never ends.' i never understood that line until i got depression.
ps i wonder how ketamine and cocaine would mix? ;)
Posted by shot_away on February 22, 2012, at 15:22:41
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine, posted by EERR11CC on February 19, 2012, at 6:29:33
MAOIs DO NOT have any impact on most stimulants. I've used (whilst on isocarboxazid & phenelzine) cocain to snort, crack, amphetamines, ritalin, mephedrome, caffien, MDMA, MDEA, MDA. Ephadrine gave me hypertensive crisis so be aware!
Posted by shot_away on February 22, 2012, at 15:25:55
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by snapper on November 13, 2005, at 1:51:35
> WHY? DO YOU HAVE A DEATH WISH OR JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU CAN HAVE A SEVERE CVA.?
>You talk like an arogant novice my friend
Posted by shot_away on February 22, 2012, at 15:27:57
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by willyee on November 13, 2005, at 4:05:48
> This question is totaly absurd.My brother lost his family and life to cocaine.
>
> We are here trying to help each other through LEGAL and SAFE means,you have tons of sites where you can ask those kind of questions,Dr.bob is this permitted here? Id hope not,im personaly offended.Again, total arogance. A simple question was asked. dont like it? Then shut up!
Posted by shot_away on February 22, 2012, at 15:32:25
In reply to Re: Parnate and cocaine, posted by willyee on November 14, 2005, at 23:43:56
> > > people, that's frustrating to me when people don't answer the question...if you disagree with the poster's lifestyle choices, do not answer the question. they didnt ask your opinion.
> >
> > THANK YOU.
> >
> > It is difficult for me to understand the stigma against cocaine on this board by a bunch of speed freaks who take Adderall and MAOIs
>
>
> I dont need to get into the technicality of coke vs maois or amhet......all i know is i knever put on my wifes shoes in an attempt to go get coke,or stole my lil bros game boy games to get it.
>
> Whether or not u feel there is a difference your entitled to your opinion,but coke is in no way legal,so its not an option to anyone here so it sould not be spoken on a board which is intended to discuss OPTIONS for depression.
>
> There are plenty of resources for what you ask,many many,let me just plays devils advocate and say wheres the problem,ok today a coke question,tommorrow another,then maybe a crack one.
>
> Do you think it does any good to have questions of coke crack meth herion ecstasy etc here on the same group ?
>
>
> I know we come near that line a lot,but your question straight buried the line.
>
> I am a big advocate of ghb,from time to time ill mention it here,but if u go to google groups/ghb a ghb group there is where i ask extremly detailed questions on how to take it,combinations ,purity etc........i dont bring that here cause its simply inappriate.
>
> i dont care whether its like that i gave my opinion,i did,and i hope we keep questions like that away,again if someone needs an answer to such there are many resources for them,this simply should not be one of them,come on crack with parnate,what next hey group will it be ok to drop my weekly x after taking prozac,or do you think this herion sh*t will interfere with klonopin,it just doesent seem approaite,hate me love me just how i feel.
>
> I am no angel,i knowginly dabble in riskly drugs in desperation for help,but i find suitable resources to inquire about them.
>
>This ISD NOT a question of addiction AT ALL! Its a very simple question. nobody has to anwer it! if you do not like the question then go answer somebody elses!!! Nothing is wrong with this question in my honest opinion. So if u want to let off steam, dont do it on the vulnerable, go else where!
Posted by sigismund on February 23, 2012, at 0:03:04
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine, posted by shot_away on February 22, 2012, at 15:22:41
Jeez, I once took maybe 5mg methylamphetamine when on Parnate 10mg and while I was OK my BP shot up and I had a headache.
Posted by shot_away on February 23, 2012, at 7:44:01
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine » shot_away, posted by sigismund on February 23, 2012, at 0:03:04
> Jeez, I once took maybe 5mg methylamphetamine when on Parnate 10mg and while I was OK my BP shot up and I had a headache.
Admittedly, I have never been on Parnate. But Parnate can give hyprstensive crisis for no apparent reason, out of the blue. No, i wouldn't mess with Parnate. But the hydrazine derivatives seem safer when taken with stimulants.
Posted by Maisey on February 23, 2012, at 13:17:22
In reply to Re: MAOIs and cocaine » Maisey, posted by SLS on February 19, 2012, at 13:12:09
I've felt plenty desperate. I wouldn't be here if I did not have mental health issues. I've also made bad decisions with my health - I just recently purchased generic Lexapro overseas because I'm so desperate to feel relief. I just took it last night and again today, and feel badly. So, don't judge me when you have no idea how I feel or have felt. That doesn't mean I'm going to stand back and be quiet when I see someone making a bad choice - I do think it is a bad, bad decision to mix up a cocktail of drugs like that, and I do not know why anyone would unless it was a suicide attempt, which I would never promote. It is something that not only puts you at risk, but innocent people. If I can stop someone from maknig a big mistake, I'm going to do it rather than be a coward, or worse, further that activity.
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Medication | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.