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Posted by spriggy on September 17, 2005, at 16:33:39
What exactly would constitute one being referred to as "crazy?"
Is there a specific behavior, diagnosis, genetic code that would make that an appropriate claim?
Okay, maybe the real question is, am *I* crazy?
Posted by linkadge on September 17, 2005, at 16:52:05
In reply to what constitutes crazy?, posted by spriggy on September 17, 2005, at 16:33:39
I don't think that crazy is in the DSM or anything.
Its not really an appropriate term to use.
Linkadge
Posted by lynn970 on September 17, 2005, at 17:48:25
In reply to Re: what constitutes crazy?, posted by linkadge on September 17, 2005, at 16:52:05
What is DSM? Spriggy, you are not crazy. Do not let anyone or anything try to make you think that you are crazy. You might have a chemical imbalance or your childhood may have had an affect on you, but you are not crazy. YOu WILL get better. You will look back at this one day and say, "Wow, Praise God! I am fine."
Posted by med_empowered on September 17, 2005, at 17:54:48
In reply to Re: what constitutes crazy?, posted by lynn970 on September 17, 2005, at 17:48:25
saying someone is "crazy" is basically a mean way of saying they're totally out of touch with reality and prevailing norms. Its really a mean, imprecise term; for example, someone who simply gets angry over small things or starts crying suddenly because of intense stress could be considered "crazy," as could someone who is seen talking to themselves or has a nervous tick or what have you. "Crazy" is usually just expressing disapproval, but in such a way that you're saying the person you disapprove of isn't necessarily evil/immoral or stupid or whatever, but actually out of touch, somehow disconnected from everything and everyone else. THe "crazy" concept really has no place in psychology, psychiatry, or counselling; ideally, everyone should avoid using the term.
Posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2005, at 17:59:10
In reply to Re: what constitutes crazy?, posted by med_empowered on September 17, 2005, at 17:54:48
Spriggy what's up my friend. Of all the people I know I know you're not crazy. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by rjlockhart98 on September 17, 2005, at 22:58:32
In reply to Re: what constitutes crazy?, posted by Phillipa on September 17, 2005, at 17:59:10
Crazy is me in the dictonary (i wish)
Crazy it think can either feel like your crazy when SEVERE ANXIETY comes it completely overwhelms your reality. Now "real" loss of reality, is like thinking people are out to get you, paranoid, having symbolic thinking like things mean something behind it. (I research alot what is crazy becuase i always worry that i have been going to go insane)
I have had begged for CAT scans, MRI scans, to see if im normal. Doctor please!!
Spriggy i think for some reason we have the same thinking if im crazy. Well i dont know, but i just know i do.
I always go by a belief "dont exagerate thoughts to their dephts of deepness"
Take care of yourself.
Matt
Posted by crazy teresa on September 18, 2005, at 1:36:04
In reply to what constitutes crazy?, posted by spriggy on September 17, 2005, at 16:33:39
Merriam-Webster, link so thoughtfully provided by the bobster, lists insane. I heard once being insane meant you could not distinguish dreams from reality.
Sometimes I feel like I'm crazy, but it's really more of a problem that no one around me has any idea of how to understand me. The grief, the loss, the pain, the loneliness, the depth of it all, the part where your head is screaming to yourself, "STOP IT, STOP IT RIGHT NOW!" but there's absolutely nothing you can do to change the way you're feeling/acting/being.
In my experience, talking with (intimately discussing) someone who's lived through what you're dealing with--the more similar the better-- can help you feel more sane. Having your feelings validated REALLY helps.
With His love,
crazy teresa
Posted by med_empowered on September 18, 2005, at 1:47:54
In reply to Re: what constitutes crazy? » spriggy, posted by crazy teresa on September 18, 2005, at 1:36:04
I've found that "crazy"--whether applied by others, or to yourself regarding your own experiences--is an isolating label...it makes you feel isolated from humanity. When I talk to people going through problems like mine, even if they're not exactly the same, I kind of realize that this isn't *crazy* or *insane*; for better or for worse, intense, soul-crushing spiritual/emotional pain and existential angst are a very, very big part of the human experience (though more so for some than for others...but, a surprising number of people are on the receiving end of a lot of anguish). I find that avoiding labels--bipolar, social phobia, etc.--when I'm outside the docs office really helps. There's a component of my issues, for me at least, that can be eased a bit by medication and therapy when necessary, but there's also a larger part that has to be understood and respected as being not necessarily pathological but simply troubling and painful...this part, the larger part of my problems, is something that I can share with others and which allows us all to connect to one another. Its also the part that pushes me to write as a form of self-expression; if I cant find an outlet for the driving, forceful un-ease, dissatisfaction, and pain that sometimes fills me, then it really will destroy me. Anyway, I guess I'm saying (sorry this is so long, btw) that being *crazy* is really just a sign of being *human* and being *alive*; I believe the doors once sang a line (lifted from a major poet) to the effect that "some are born to sweet delight/ some are born to endless night". I don't think its that extreme; I think we can all find happiness and meaning in our lives (I seriously recommend Victor Frankel's logotherapy work for more on this), but I do think that there comes a point at which we must acknowledge that life is more of a struggle for some people than for others; whatever the reason, it just takes some of us a bit more to stay afloat (or even stay alive) than it does other people.
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