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Posted by Paulbwell on August 16, 2005, at 19:23:28
Rohnpnol was banned in 1996 because it uas considered a "date rape drug"-laughable considering ANY potent benzos administered with alcohol is the same. Dahmer used Halcion with booze to incapactite his victoms, yet halcion and other potent Benzos are still available.
Rohypnol is Flunitrazapam a Benzo-hypnotic in the same class as Valium Xanax etc. Rohypnol causes sedation, muscle relaxation, anxiety relief, and sleep and is used in 160 countries for more than 25 years with arecord of safety of any of thoes mentioned. Like ALL benzos it causes a certain amount of amnesia, thou somewhat more than most, it's very safe in overdose althouht combined with booze is considerably more potent-like ALL benzos.
Scarey media inflated stories tell people that it's 10 times stronger than Valium, giving the average viewer it's widely potent, without explaining to them that Ativan, halcion, Klonopin, and Xanax, the effective dose is the same, 0.5-2mgs.
Rohypnol simply became a media clichay of a date-rape drug, despite the fact that ANY benzo can be, administered with other CNS depressants usually booze or GHB.
It's import for personal use was permitted until 1996, when US customs banned it's use completly and the DEA moved to place it into C1 catergory.
What a F*cking joke.
Posted by med_empowered on August 16, 2005, at 21:23:53
In reply to Rohhpnol-Unfair ban?-Date rape?, posted by Paulbwell on August 16, 2005, at 19:23:28
I dont really think we're missing much in the US by not having Rohypnol--it was never really pushed very much in the US market anyway, so the loss is minimal. However, I do think the ban was ridiculous. I think politicians wanted to be seen as women's advocates, they wanted to be seen like they were doing *something* to stop sexual assault,and so they used the media to instill fear about a particular drug and then made a calculated move to appear socially conscious and concerned in banning it. LOTS of things can be used to sedate people--including alcohol all by itself. If the politicos had actually wanted to *do* something about rape, which would have required some actual thought and effort on their part, they could have addressed factors that make rape so common--like toxic gender stereotypes that push men to act like "studs" and view women primarily as sex partners, rather than as *people*. They could also have made rape easier to prosecute (lots of cases go un-reported, and lots more go un-prosecuted in large part because, even with a rape kit, etc. rape is *extremely* difficult to prosecute--defense attorneys tend to imply that the women "really wanted it" and, for whatever reason, fabricated the "rape story," and all too often...juries buy it). They could have invested $$$ into quality sex ed programs, in which children and teenagers could be taught that *NO* really does mean *NO*, not "maybe" or "keep trying," and that not listening to a "NO" is not only criminal, but immoral and utterly reprehensible. But...the politicos didn't do any of those things, or anything else constructive, either. Instead, some politicians got together and decided to boost their ratings by passing a pretty much pointless, meaningless piece of anti-drug legislation that made them appear "tough on crime". Meanwhile, rape remains an alarmingly common occurence, and those who choose to take their cases to trial are still accussed of being promiscuous or "secretly wanting it" or "asking for it" or, worst of all, of flat out making up the rape accusation for some personal reason. I don't feel like I'm missing out by not being allowed to take Rohypnol, but I do think women are being shafted (yet again) by self-serving politicians.
Posted by jay on August 16, 2005, at 22:30:36
In reply to Rohhpnol-Unfair ban?-Date rape?, posted by Paulbwell on August 16, 2005, at 19:23:28
Ya, I agree with you much so. The only reason it stuck in my mind is because it was the drug Kurt Cobain first tried to purposely o.d. on.
Jay
Posted by Paulbwell on August 16, 2005, at 23:19:34
In reply to Re: Rohhpnol-Unfair ban?-Date rape? » Paulbwell, posted by jay on August 16, 2005, at 22:30:36
> Ya, I agree with you much so. The only reason it stuck in my mind is because it was the drug Kurt Cobain first tried to purposely o.d. on.
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> JayPoor Kurt, Royhpnol is the pill Kurt took with a Champagne chaser in a suicide attempt in Italy, however the pooor chap foud an other more lethal way out.
R.I,P, Kurt. God bless
Posted by ed_uk on August 17, 2005, at 4:22:12
In reply to Rohhpnol-Unfair ban?-Date rape?, posted by Paulbwell on August 16, 2005, at 19:23:28
Hi Paul,
Flunitrazepam was never banned in the UK - but it was discontinued (in the UK) not long ago because it was so rarely prescribed.
Pharmacologically, it's very similar to other benzos.
Supposedly, flunitrazepam itself is colorless, and tasteless - easy to pop in a drink. I don't know the tastes of other benzos though - nor do I know what Rohypnol tablets taste like, with all the inactive ingredients etc. Roche puts a lot of dye in its Rohypnol tablets. Generics are available with no dye though.
There's certainly been a lot of hysteria surrounding Rohypnol.
Kind regards
~ed
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