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Posted by Jeroen on June 11, 2005, at 6:51:40
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 5, 2005, at 11:39:56
ok second week on zyprexa 20 mg, minimal to no improvement in eye blinking
i feel like sh*t on zyprexa
Posted by Phillipa on June 11, 2005, at 17:26:44
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad, posted by Jeroen on June 11, 2005, at 6:51:40
Haven't you told the doctor about how you feel about seroquel? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on June 11, 2005, at 18:07:19
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad, posted by Jeroen on June 11, 2005, at 6:51:40
Hi J,
I really think it's time to switch to Seroquel. Perhaps you could discuss it with your doctor next week :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 6:05:48
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 11, 2005, at 18:07:19
im not sure asking seroquel, even it helped MUCH unlike any other anti psychotic, my paranoid taughts were gone
taking 400 mg will turn me into a zombie, i already tryed that
why cant the make abilify out of this? with minimal sedation!!!!
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 6:16:03
In reply to Re: im on zyprexa 20 mg and feel bad » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 11, 2005, at 18:07:19
its been 2 week on 20 mg of zyprexa
my doc sais i need to be atleast 1 month on it for its effect
after that if zyprexa dont work for me i will ask for Seroquel
i felt ok already the first days on seroquel, zyprexa DOESNT
should i try the schizophrenia dosage of seroquel or low dose 100 mg?
ive read 400 mg of seroquel can mask TD, i know someone whos TD reversed at this dosage
please can you tell me what i should do?
Posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:09:24
In reply to Zyprexa TRIAL, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 6:16:03
Hi J!
>taking 400 mg will turn me into a zombie, i already tryed that.......
I know........but you suddenly took 400mg out of the blue! If you work your way up to a higher dose you might never get such bad side effects. Anyway, you might not need as much as 400mg :-)
>my doc sais i need to be atleast 1 month on it for its effect.......
OK, perhaps you should wait 2 more weeks on Zyprexa. If it doesn't help, you could ask for Seroquel.
>should i try the schizophrenia dosage of seroquel or low dose 100 mg?
Start at a low dose and gradually increase. When you reach a dose which is treating your symptoms with minimal side effects - stop increasing!
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 7:25:43
In reply to Re: Zyprexa TRIAL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:09:24
i dont think my doctor wants to increase dosage by dosage, he will immediatelly build upto 400 mg so ill be a zombiew
Posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:54:08
In reply to Re: Zyprexa TRIAL, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 7:25:43
Hi J,
>i dont think my doctor wants to increase dosage by dosage, he will immediatelly build upto 400 mg so ill be a zombie........
You could tell him about how good you felt when you gradually built up the dose before. Also, you could tell him how bad you felt when you took 400mg without building up.
Anyway, even if your doc increases the dose rapidly, the drowsiness will probably reduce after a few weeks :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 10:42:07
In reply to Re: Zyprexa TRIAL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 7:54:08
There has never been a definitive, validated and widely accepted treatment for TD. Dozens of drugs have been tested over the past 30 years with mixed results at best. The atypical antipsychotic clozapine has been reported to reverse persistent TD after 6-12 months, possibly through gradual "down-regulation" of supersensitive dopamine D2 receptors. Some preliminary reports suggest that other atypical antipsychotics may also help reverse TD.
Posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 11:03:30
In reply to reverse TD with clozaril, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 10:42:07
Hi J!
I expect that Seroquel will be just as good as Clozaril for your TD :-) I definitely think you should give Seroquel a second chance before considering Clozaril. Clozaril is more sedating than Seroquel, regular blood tests are needed and serious side effects are more common.
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 11:44:38
In reply to Re: reverse TD with clozaril » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 11:03:30
im just scared to get psychotic on seroquel
i heared people say this
its a shame Abilify, Zyprexa, Risperdal, geodon (evil) didnt help me at all...
why?
Posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 15:18:15
In reply to Re: reverse TD with clozaril, posted by Jeroen on June 12, 2005, at 11:44:38
Hi J,
>why?
I don't know, sometimes drugs in the same class have differences that are not well understood.
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on June 12, 2005, at 16:27:23
In reply to Re: reverse TD with clozaril » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 12, 2005, at 15:18:15
Jeroen, I agree with Ed. If you tell the doctor how the high dose seroquel made you feel and that lower doses didn't cause this he will probably Rx it this way. Wait on the Clozaril. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on June 14, 2005, at 11:57:56
In reply to Re: reverse TD with clozaril, posted by Phillipa on June 12, 2005, at 16:27:23
my heart racing, i was at a store,
im 3 weeks on 20mg zyprexa with no improvement at all.
im going to ask a doctor for advice on starting the seroquel
Posted by ed_uk on June 14, 2005, at 14:39:22
In reply to i had another attack again, posted by Jeroen on June 14, 2005, at 11:57:56
Hi J,
It sounds like you had another panic (anxiety) attack. Tranxene can be helpful for panic attacks but you might still have them occasionally. Get checked out by your doctor for other causes of a racing heart. I hope your psych doctor will let you try Seroquel :-)
Kind regards,
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on June 14, 2005, at 18:33:48
In reply to Panic » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 14, 2005, at 14:39:22
Guess you're out of the hospital. i hope he'll let you try it too. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 2:28:38
In reply to Re: Panic, posted by Phillipa on June 14, 2005, at 18:33:48
just came out of hospital for weekend home
i discussed seroquel with my doctor, we will propably change
i am 4 weeks on zyprexa with low improvement in blinking and my mental disorder is worsei taught zyprexa would make me feel good :(
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 2:58:47
In reply to Re: Panic, posted by Phillipa on June 14, 2005, at 18:33:48
im also taking lecithin for 9 days now, my eye muscle twitches havent stopped
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 9:55:01
In reply to Re: SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 9:50:53
i am stuck with a question, someone told me my pupils of my eye are big
ive read something geodon is causing this, well im off the drug and I ThINK I HAVE IT, BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME
any ideas?
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 10:07:36
In reply to my eyes, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 9:55:01
i ment pupil dilation in my previous post
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 10:18:29
In reply to Re: my eyes - update, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 10:07:36
ive just read on a website that medication can make someone psychotic. read here again GEODON CAUSED IT WITH A PERSON!!!!!
http://www.pmulcahy.com/misc_pages/my_thoughts_on_mental_illness.html
seroquel makes me feel good but what about the psychotic thing i experienced with it? propably because i took it only once a day
The Geodon made me psychotic. Hallucinations were more severe than ever, paranoia was extreme, and with what little was left of my sanity, I stopped the medication cold turkey, and refused to see the doctor. As the paranoia subsided, I eventually saw Dr. Penny again, and he put me on what I am on now, a combination of Risperdal and Celexa. The Risperdal is sedating only to a slightly lesser degree than the Loxitane, and I generally sleep 12-14 hours a day. The Celexa caused gas and cramps the first month I took it, but then went away. My weight (I lost the additional 50 pounds within 3 months after stopping the Valproic Acid), I put on 9 pounds, but now my weight has stabilized.
Posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 10:43:14
In reply to my eyes, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 9:55:01
Hi J,
>ive read something geodon is causing this, well im off the drug and I ThINK I HAVE IT, BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD ME
You haven't taken any Geodon for a long time. I don't think its the cause. I suppose it's a possibility though. I don't know...
~Ed
Posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 10:45:45
In reply to URGENT - GEODON V.S SEROQUEL, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 10:18:29
Hi J,
>seroquel makes me feel good but what about the psychotic thing i experienced with it? propably because i took it only once a day
Did it cause hallucinations, delusions or paranoia?
~Ed
Posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 11:01:35
In reply to Re: URGENT - GEODON V.S SEROQUEL » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on June 18, 2005, at 10:45:45
hallucinations, but only at the start taking it
but im scared man, this aint funny anymore. if seroquel makes me psychotic instead of good then my doctor will put me in a closed department at the hospital i think
lets see how it ends...
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 18, 2005, at 11:14:35
In reply to DAY 9 LECITHIN, posted by Jeroen on June 18, 2005, at 2:58:47
> im also taking lecithin for 9 days now
Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding lecithin to Psycho-Babble Alternative. Here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20050612/msgs/514898.html
Thanks,
Bob
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