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Posted by linkadge on May 30, 2005, at 19:28:57
I feel like I am going to have a seizure.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on May 30, 2005, at 19:44:24
In reply to Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on May 30, 2005, at 19:28:57
Why? What's going on? Are you seeing an Aura? How long has it been since you took any meds? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by 4WD on May 30, 2005, at 21:31:29
In reply to Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on May 30, 2005, at 19:28:57
> I feel like I am going to have a seizure.
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> Linkadge
How long since you took a benzo? Did you taper slowly?Marsha
Posted by rjlockhart98 on May 30, 2005, at 22:39:22
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by 4WD on May 30, 2005, at 21:31:29
Sit back calmly, and say "systems shut down" i have done with Wellbutrin when i had a siezure when i took 600mg XL.
It feels like something very wierd nad bad will happen, sort of a "head rush". Sit calm. Close your eyes and try to slow down your own impulses.
Do you have any type of anti-convultant?
This is when i was 17, but i took Phenytoin 500mg after that which was my dad's medication at the time.
Ok, Magnesium 250mg, you can buy at the store HAS been known to slow nerve impulses. You can buy this at the grocery store
Dont get to rushed reading this, read it slow becuase to much reation to it can set it off.
If the tingligness starts going down your body, call 911 NOW.
PLEASE take care
Matt
Posted by linkadge on May 31, 2005, at 15:56:56
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by rjlockhart98 on May 30, 2005, at 22:39:22
My whole body sits here and tingles all day long. As well when I look in the mirror, my eyes appear vibrate.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on May 31, 2005, at 16:16:56
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on May 31, 2005, at 15:56:56
> My whole body sits here and tingles all day long. As well when I look in the mirror, my eyes appear vibrate.
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> Linkadge
Which antipsychotics have you tried?Sometimes I think a drug like Zyprexa or Risperdal might help you.
- Scott
Posted by crazychickuk on May 31, 2005, at 18:34:59
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure » linkadge, posted by SLS on May 31, 2005, at 16:16:56
Looks up Lhermittes sign
my physclogist told me this is what i am getting... its the neorons (sp) in our brains ..
Posted by linkadge on May 31, 2005, at 19:46:55
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by crazychickuk on May 31, 2005, at 18:34:59
I've been on zyprexa, and seroqel before.
Sure, I might give them another whirl, but I have never felt as worthless as I did on zyprexa. I just felt utterly worthless, thats the only way I can describe it. Felt like I couldn't do anything. Doubted my abilities to even hold a spoon properly. Risperdal was worse that zyprexa in that regard, but both where very hard to tollerate.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on May 31, 2005, at 19:47:50
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on May 31, 2005, at 19:46:55
The only thing I'd take right now is a low dose of depakote. But my doctor won't prescribe it.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on June 1, 2005, at 6:55:10
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on May 31, 2005, at 19:47:50
Hi Linkadge.
> The only thing I'd take right now is a low dose of depakote. But my doctor won't prescribe it.
I wish I could use what little intelligence God has left me with to figure out how to cure you. Your condition sounds rather complex and may require creative use of what we have to work with. I know I have suggested this in the past, but you might consider some sort of counselling. I am not so much concerned with your childhood inequities, but, rather, what a mess such a potent illness has left you in. Some psychotherapy might help clear your head and undo some of the damage depression has perpetrated.
Why are you interested in valproate? Do you feel it has an effect on your clinical picture or is it to be a neuroprotector/neurotrophic? What dosages do you feel are effective for this purpose?
Lyme Disease?
I wish I could fix you.
I wish you could fix me.
Maybe, one day...
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on June 1, 2005, at 15:56:07
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure » linkadge, posted by SLS on June 1, 2005, at 6:55:10
I really don't think I have any disease. I don't think I ever had any disease. I think I am still going through withdrawl from these medications.
I think that depakote has been helpful to deal with the rebound in excitory neurotrasnmission from AD withdrawl.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on June 1, 2005, at 17:56:49
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on June 1, 2005, at 15:56:07
Hi Linkadge.
> I really don't think I have any disease. I don't think I ever had any disease. I think I am still going through withdrawl from these medications.
Sorry my friend, but I disagree with your conclusions based upon the things you have written in the past. You are not the same person now as you have been when you are at your best. You seem to enter bad states and good states episodically. Most of your good states seem to coincide with the efficacy of the treatment you are employing at the time. Although you might be vulnerable to a placebo effect, that's how it appears to me.
> I think that depakote has been helpful to deal with the rebound in excitory neurotrasnmission from AD withdrawl.
You stole my idea.
:-)
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on June 1, 2005, at 21:35:40
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure » linkadge, posted by SLS on June 1, 2005, at 17:56:49
I am sorry, I just cannot believe that.
I am fairly certain that these medications have permanantly dammaged my brain.
Perhaps, when I can walk in a staight line again,
I will asess my mood assues as being anything other than drug induced.Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on June 2, 2005, at 0:28:14
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on June 1, 2005, at 21:35:40
Link, Did you get the lengthy Thread I sent you today? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by SLS on June 2, 2005, at 8:38:18
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on June 1, 2005, at 21:35:40
Hi Linkadge.
> I am sorry, I just cannot believe that.
Linkadge, I'm sure by now you know that anything I suggest to you comes only from caring. Please don't be offended or feel somehow accused. If I appear firm on some issues at times, it is to act perhaps as a devil's advocate.> I am fairly certain that these medications have permanently dammaged my brain.
The word "damage" carries with it a sense of physical destruction. We both know that there are some drugs that indeed do things that create differences in morphology and physiology that are irreversible and affect profoundly brain function. I don't find that antidepressants fit well into such a category. I think it is important, however, to recognize that what antidepressants can do is to produce long lasting changes in the receptor-second messenger-genetic complex such that subsequent exposures to the same drug might not offer the same compensatory events that confer therapeutic effect. The brain, unfortunately, becomes accommodated to the action of antidepressants with repeated exposures. Whether or not this can be considered "damage" is a matter of semantics. It is what it is.
> Perhaps, when I can walk in a staight line again,
My depression affects profoundly my physical coordination. I can't walk a straight line either. I am constantly bumping into things. This symptom developed before I ever took medication. These things improve as the depression improves unless ataxia is a side effect of the medication (as can be with Lamictal, for instance).
> I will asess my mood assues as being anything other than drug induced.
I hope you are not placing global importance on your ability to walk a straight line as to dictate your decision. There are just too many other things that you present with to take into consideration.
If you truly believe that your brain is damaged by drugs and refuse to return to them, and yet are still motivated to make the most out of the life you were given, it probably makes sense to seek counseling to learn how to go about it. If you do return to medication or some other somatic treatment, you might continue to profit from counseling anyway. I have.
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on June 2, 2005, at 17:49:02
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure » linkadge, posted by SLS on June 2, 2005, at 8:38:18
I am in the process of finding an appropriate counseller.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on June 2, 2005, at 17:54:56
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure » linkadge, posted by SLS on June 2, 2005, at 8:38:18
I also think there is a trend towards failure of the drug to initiate second messenger transcripts when the drugs are taken for any prolonged period of time, regardless of weather the drug was discontinued or not.
Depression is adaptive.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on June 2, 2005, at 20:55:20
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on June 2, 2005, at 17:54:56
> I also think there is a trend towards failure of the drug to initiate second messenger transcripts when the drugs are taken for any prolonged period of time, regardless of weather the drug was discontinued or not.
This is quite possible. Although it seems that no single antidepressant has been spared this feature, the SSRIs as a class might carry a greater liability in this regard. SNRIs like the tricyclics and Effexor poop-out less often.
> Depression is adaptive.
It sounds like a pathogen.
Regardless of the physiological processes involved, I think that one's best chance of having an antidepressant continue to work is to remove as much depressive thinking and psychosocial stress as is possible. To allow these things to persist and remain chronic after remission is achieved is to place "depressive pressure" on the brain that at some point might break through the medication and precipitate a relapse.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on June 2, 2005, at 20:58:38
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on June 2, 2005, at 17:49:02
> I am in the process of finding an appropriate counseller.
>
> Linkadge
:-)Good luck. I hope you glean more from counselling than you have from medication. It would be so cool to be able to throw all of your drugs in the garbage.
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on June 3, 2005, at 6:26:08
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure » linkadge, posted by SLS on June 2, 2005, at 20:58:38
I think the right drugs are more important than no drugs.
Linkadge
Posted by SLS on June 3, 2005, at 7:16:07
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure, posted by linkadge on June 3, 2005, at 6:26:08
> I think the right drugs are more important than no drugs.
There's the catch...
- Scott
Posted by phillipa on June 3, 2005, at 21:45:28
In reply to Re: Feel like I'm going to have a seizure » linkadge, posted by SLS on June 1, 2005, at 6:55:10
This is the end of the thread.
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