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Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE

Posted by sdb on May 27, 2005, at 14:35:50

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » darkhorse, posted by ed_uk on May 27, 2005, at 12:57:19

Hi ed_uk!

I also wish you good exams and a lot of courage.
Exams are part of our society, human compassion is best. Sorry, I have overseen that before. Hopefully not too late.

Kind regards

sdb

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb

Posted by ed_uk on May 27, 2005, at 15:21:08

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 27, 2005, at 14:35:50

Hi sdb!

>I also wish you good exams and a lot of courage.

Thank you :-) I had an exam today, it wasn't too bad. Are you at University? If so, what subject?

Kind regards,
Ed.

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE

Posted by sdb on May 27, 2005, at 15:55:10

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb, posted by ed_uk on May 27, 2005, at 15:21:08

I am going to be MD.

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb

Posted by ed_uk on May 27, 2005, at 16:10:37

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 27, 2005, at 15:55:10

I always wanted to be a doctor. I gave up on my dream several years ago. Now I'm doing pharmacy which I don't like, it's boring as hell. How can you cope with doing medicine if you suffer from anxiety? I don't understand. I would need to be on 10mg Ativan a day to cope with the stress. Sorry, I'm bitter.

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb

Posted by ed_uk on May 27, 2005, at 16:23:03

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 27, 2005, at 15:55:10

>I am going to be MD.

Hi sdb,

Sorry, I just read my last post and it sounded rather rude- that was not my intention. A lot of babblers seem to be studying medicine. It really gets to me because it's something I can't do. I should probably stop asking people what they are studying! It would be better if I didn't know. If anyone is reading this and you are studying medcine, please don't tell me. It will make me depressed. It's illogical but true.

The difference between pharmacy and medicine: if you're doing medicine you get (almost) infinite opportunities; if you're doing pharmacy you get none.

Kind regards,
Ed.

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb

Posted by ed_uk on May 27, 2005, at 16:35:28

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 27, 2005, at 15:55:10

I've made a fool of myself now :-( I just got a bit emotional. I am selfish. I should have congratulated you but I was thinking about myself. OK, I'm gonna shut up now....

Kind regards,
Ed.

PS. You'll be a great doc btw- you will understand the patient's point of view. You can be my doc lol!

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb

Posted by ed_uk on May 27, 2005, at 18:37:06

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 27, 2005, at 15:55:10

I hope I haven't offended you.............I have issues RE 'this subject' :-S

Yours,
Ed.

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE

Posted by sdb on May 28, 2005, at 2:02:41

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb, posted by ed_uk on May 27, 2005, at 18:37:06

I am bp. In good phases I feel optimistic and I feel strong in bad phases I have melancholic sometimes depressed negative feelings, anxiety and I withdraw. Sport (jogging) is a good thing and it helps and I do it often. But it cant cure you. I dont know what to do later but there is always the possibility to get a job in research, administration perhaps hospital. I suppose its good to think rational. If I won't feel any pleasure with what I do, I will change immediately. Sometimes life is hard but I try to think that there are other, even more suffering people. If there is some spare time I read books or travel, walking is also beatiful.

kind regards

sdb

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE

Posted by sdb on May 28, 2005, at 2:13:50

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 28, 2005, at 2:02:41

By the way, you said "I should have congratulated". You have not to. It does not depend what you do. Every individual has a worthful role in society, otherwise our society can not function. So truly, everthing is equal.

 

Back to the questions to darkhorse, ed_uk

Posted by sdb on May 28, 2005, at 6:05:27

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 28, 2005, at 2:13:50

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050527/msgs/503663.html

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb

Posted by ed_uk on May 28, 2005, at 10:24:27

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 28, 2005, at 2:13:50

Hi sdb,

I'm sorry for hijacking the thread. I hope you're not mad at me now.

> there is always the possibility to get a job in research

You should invent some new anti-anxiety drugs!

Kind regards,
Ed.

 

Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE

Posted by sdb on May 28, 2005, at 13:46:41

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE » sdb, posted by ed_uk on May 28, 2005, at 10:24:27

Hi ed,

I am absolutely not mad. If I decide go in to research I will try to help suffering people.
Bye the way, I had a pretty difficult childhood and could not walk (physically disabled) during three years.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050521/msgs/500782.html

If you are cultural interested there is film about a bipolar, homosexual pianist. It is very interesting to see it. He said in the film (he gave seldom interviews): "You should accept your faith this is psychologically the easiest". I have analyzed the film perhaps three times.

Sviatoslav Richter "The enigma"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004CXNY/drbobsvirtenp-21

There is another artist Glenn Gould. He was addicted to almost every substance. I suppose he suffered social avoidance disorder and anxiety disorders. He once stated: "Solitude is the way of happiness".

This is his playing performance (Goldberg Variations DVD):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005014I/drbobsvirtenp-21

This is his life "Thirty-Two Short Films About Glenn Gould" (played by an actor DVD):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000544LY/drbobsvirtenp-21

Artists and interesting persons are always in some way disordered. But this give you consolation.

 

Redirect: film about a bipolar, homosexual pianist

Posted by Dr. Bob on May 29, 2005, at 11:42:56

In reply to Re: prazepam (centrax) one more please to DARKHORSE, posted by sdb on May 28, 2005, at 13:46:41

> If you are cultural interested there is film about a bipolar, homosexual pianist.

Sorry to interrupt, but I'd like to redirect follow-ups regarding films and music to Psycho-Babble Books. Here's a link:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/books/20050501/msgs/504689.html

Thanks,

Bob

 

Back to the subject prazepam, bromazepam...ed, dho

Posted by sdb on May 29, 2005, at 13:42:12

In reply to Redirect: film about a bipolar, homosexual pianist, posted by Dr. Bob on May 29, 2005, at 11:42:56

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050527/msgs/503663.html

 

DarkHorse! » darkhorse

Posted by Mr.Scott on May 29, 2005, at 20:31:03

In reply to Re: Has somebody ever taken prazepam (Centrax)? » sdb, posted by darkhorse on May 4, 2005, at 9:39:26


I am sorry that my vocal frustrations with benzodiazepines affected you negatively! You see I am a control freak, and I hate the idea of being on something I can't just stop especially when I suspect it may be causing or worsening my fatigue or depression. In spite I still take .75mg of clonazepam daily because I can't tolerate much of the other meds.

In posting I only seek discussion and hopefully one day answers, but I never pretend to have any. Certainly not for the massess! Sometimes i can be insensitive and for this I am sorry. I'm trying to work on that. Everyone is different, and I am only me. One flawed dude!

I'm glad I saw your post, and again I apologize.

Scott

 

Re: Has somebody ever taken prazepam (Centrax)? » SLS

Posted by Mr.Scott on May 29, 2005, at 20:38:26

In reply to Re: Has somebody ever taken prazepam (Centrax)?, posted by SLS on May 23, 2005, at 10:09:20

Genius!

You would think Pfizer would see the financial value in this and re-market centrax in the US. Originally it was almost not put on schedule 4 at all, but at the last minute was added because it's a benzodiazepine. I know a marketing exec for pfizer and I'm going to mention exactly what you just said. He's not just another drug rep either. I wonder what he will say?

Scott

 

Re: DarkHorse! Actually meant for Ed-UK..Sorry! (nm) » Mr.Scott

Posted by Mr.Scott on May 29, 2005, at 20:41:24

In reply to DarkHorse! » darkhorse, posted by Mr.Scott on May 29, 2005, at 20:31:03

 

Re: DarkHorse! Actually meant for Ed-UK..Sorry! » Mr.Scott

Posted by ed_uk on May 30, 2005, at 6:53:16

In reply to Re: DarkHorse! Actually meant for Ed-UK..Sorry! (nm) » Mr.Scott, posted by Mr.Scott on May 29, 2005, at 20:41:24

Hi Scott!

I don't take a benzo, I think your post was for someone else!

Kind regards,
Ed.

 

Re: DarkHorse! Actually meant for Ed-UK..Sorry! » ed_uk

Posted by Mr.Scott on May 30, 2005, at 7:00:38

In reply to Re: DarkHorse! Actually meant for Ed-UK..Sorry! » Mr.Scott, posted by ed_uk on May 30, 2005, at 6:53:16

Sorry! Hard to follow these threads sometimes. I know someone was offended! Apologies to whomever it was.

Scott

 

Where is darkhorse? - back to my questions...

Posted by sdb on May 31, 2005, at 4:32:03

In reply to Re: DarkHorse! Actually meant for Ed-UK..Sorry! » ed_uk, posted by Mr.Scott on May 30, 2005, at 7:00:38

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050527/msgs/503663.html

 

Re:I'm here!.. (nm) » sdb

Posted by darkhorse on May 31, 2005, at 4:36:21

In reply to Where is darkhorse? - back to my questions..., posted by sdb on May 31, 2005, at 4:32:03

 

Great you are here darkhorse!

Posted by sdb on May 31, 2005, at 5:00:48

In reply to Re:I'm here!.. (nm) » sdb, posted by darkhorse on May 31, 2005, at 4:36:21

Look please to my questions.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20050527/msgs/503663.html

With prazepam I feel a remarkable effect with prazepam only after approx. 10 days... 10mg-20mg.

In the evening I will be here again!

Bye

 

Re: prazepam,bromazepam to darkhorse, ed_uk, everybod » sdb

Posted by ed_uk on May 31, 2005, at 16:07:43

In reply to prazepam,bromazepam to darkhorse, ed_uk, everybod, posted by sdb on May 27, 2005, at 12:13:01

It's a shame that bromazepam (Lexotan) isn't available in the UK anymore......

Kind regards,
Ed.

 

Hi darkhorse! Sdb needs your benzo expertise! » darkhorse

Posted by ed_uk on May 31, 2005, at 17:00:49

In reply to Re:I'm here!.. (nm) » sdb, posted by darkhorse on May 31, 2005, at 4:36:21

PS. I just discovered that there's a Lexotan CR, I never knew that.....

Yours,
Ed.

 

Thienodiazepines » darkhorse

Posted by ed_uk on May 31, 2005, at 17:27:42

In reply to Re:I'm here!.. (nm) » sdb, posted by darkhorse on May 31, 2005, at 4:36:21

Hi DH,

I was wondering.... have you ever tried a thienodiazepine eg. etizolam, brotizolam or clotiazepam??? How did you find it/them?? Similar to a 'normal' benzo???

Eur Neuropsychopharmacol. 1999 Dec;9 Suppl 6:S413-9.

The use and development of anxiolytics in Japan.

Yamawaki S.

Department of Psychiatry and Neurosciences, Hiroshima University School of Medicine, Japan.

More than half of the out-patients in Japanese hospitals receive anxiolytics or hypnotics for basic symptomatic management. Benzodiazepines (BZDs) are the most frequently prescribed by psychiatrists and by internists for the treatment of anxiety symptoms (mainly generalised anxiety disorder, psychosomatic diseases and autonomic dystonia). Although numerous BZDs and their analogues were introduced into the Japanese market during the last three decades, thienodiazepine derivatives have the predominant market share, in contrast to the US and the UK. Approved doses are also lower. The lack of buspirone and SSRIs in the market may contribute to the widespread prescription of BZDs in Japan. Several newer anxiolytic candidates, such as BZD receptor partial agonists and 5-HT1A receptor agonists, are currently in various phases of clinical research in Japan. However, the designs of clinical trials, particularly diagnostic precision, need to be revised.

Kind regards,
Ed.


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