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Posted by crazychickuk on April 30, 2005, at 18:10:51
I am depressed obviousley but i cant cry, i do get panicky over losing my mind other phyiscal symptoms are no bother, i am so paranoid that theres someone watching me all the time, paranoid ppl are out to get me, paranoid someone is following me down my stairs ( i live alone cept my 5yr old) paranoid someone is upstairs, paranoid that what if the tele talks to me, paranoid that i have some kind of a severe mental illness so bad that i will lose my mind, paranoid dead ppl r trying to get into my head, i know none of these are true but cant shift it.
I feel detached unreal (for mnths now) my eyes r blurry as if they aint working proply, as if im losing my bladder control (im not) i have no motivation, laffing is a big task, i feel weak and bad news makes me even weaker i can not handle it.
i can be sat there watching something on tele and it feels as if my brain is switching off, like it shakes then i panick, my eyes goes side to side as if im having a seizure ( maybe i need glasses?)
i havent been on meds sinze stopping zispin sept last yr as they changed the form and i didnt get on with it..
im afraid to go to docs they might put me in hospital and they will give me more meds that just dont agree with me at all, i have never been able to get on with any. i see a private physcologist who says its severe anxiety? what about physcotic depression?
anyone understand what im talking about? anyone know the answer?
i cant touch or feel what i should love !! i shouldnt be here i cant even cry ffs!! feels like im losing my sanity :-(
Posted by bart on April 30, 2005, at 19:14:25
In reply to ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ?, posted by crazychickuk on April 30, 2005, at 18:10:51
very strange. I would encourage you to at least make an appointment with a doc or counselor. That's certainly no way to live. good luck and take it easy
Posted by linkadge on April 30, 2005, at 19:27:28
In reply to Re: ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ?, posted by bart on April 30, 2005, at 19:14:25
Sometimes when anxiety occurs in the absence of appropriate stimuli, we look for something to attribute it to. If the anxiety continues, we tend to attribute it to increasingly intangable things.
I don't think you're psychotic, I think that you have really bad anxiety with no apparent cause.
Time released vitamin C can be very good for paranoid thinking, but I don't know if this is a long term answer by any means.
I know you are very prudent when it comes to meds, so I think a wholistic approach would be best if it can be done.
I wonder what a low dose of depakote would do for your situation ??
Linkadge
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on April 30, 2005, at 19:27:49
In reply to ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ?, posted by crazychickuk on April 30, 2005, at 18:10:51
What you are describing is very common among people who experience anxiety. And even if it is indicative of a psychotic depression, that doesn't mean that you need to be hospitalized. In fact, I'd say that hospitalization for a condition is much less likely when you start treating it sooner rather than later.
Also, you need to talk openly and honestly w/ your psychologist about what is going on w/ you. Talk about the reasons you'd like to see a pdoc and the reasons that you are afraid to. If you are worried that the pdoc will get the wrong impression of you and decide that you are crazy, you can have your psychologist call or send a letter to describe what s/he sees going on w/ you and what diagosis s/he thinks you should be treated for.
Hope that this helps. Hand in there and please don't let yourself suffer alone!
EE
Posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2005, at 21:22:30
In reply to Re: ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ?, posted by Emily Elizabeth on April 30, 2005, at 19:27:49
The valium would help if you would just take it and not panic at what you think it is doing. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Racer on April 30, 2005, at 21:54:53
In reply to ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ?, posted by crazychickuk on April 30, 2005, at 18:10:51
HoneyBunny, here's a reality check for you:
If you were psychotic, you would not know that those worries weren't real. You would be telling us that dead people really were getting into your head, or whatever your fear was. The fact that you are aware that what you are afraid of is not real tells me that you are not losing your mind, you are not psychotic, you are not any crazier than anyone who suffers from severe anxiety.
I do hope that that's something you can hold on to when the anxiety gets really bad.
Now, Donna, it's wonderful that you're seeing a psychologist. I think that's the best way for you to learn to manage your condition long term -- BUT (you knew that was coming, didn't you?)
But I think that you really will need medications, at least right now.
There's good news, though, compared to last time: this time around, you have a psychologist who can help you get through the hardest parts, can help you work out what is and is not a serious side effect, etc. And your psychologist can help you communicate with the doctor who prescribes the medications, so you won't be on your own there. That last part, I think, is probably the most important. Instead of a doctor saying, "Well, Missy, you don't know because you're mentally ill..." now the psychologist can say to him, "Hey, you treat my client with some respect: she's already severely anxious, and you make it worse by pressuring her and ignoring what she says!" That's a great thing.
You know, if you remember, that I was going through a hell with not wanting to try any new meds, remember? My new doctor, though, is great: he actually listens to me! Whoohoo! Guess he went to a different med school... That makes such a difference, let me tell you. Maybe having a therapist who can help with communication will be helpful.
Be well, dear.
Posted by D minor on April 30, 2005, at 22:41:28
In reply to ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ?, posted by crazychickuk on April 30, 2005, at 18:10:51
I understand at least a little. When I was severly depressed I couldn't cry. I felt completely numb. I would say don't be afraid to see a doc. They can help.
Goodluck,
dm
Posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2005, at 22:43:52
In reply to Re: ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ?, posted by D minor on April 30, 2005, at 22:41:28
I can't cry either. Does this mean I'm severely depressed? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by crazychickuk on May 1, 2005, at 19:09:36
In reply to Re: ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ? » D minor, posted by Phillipa on April 30, 2005, at 22:43:52
I feel so messed up, like i got all the worst mental illnesses out there, feel like im holding onto sanity .. am i phcycic? am i skitso? am i experiencing physcosis? am i going to lose my mimd? why cant i cry? why dont i have no emotion? why am i terrified of antidepressants? ( yes none works and i climb the walles) why isnt valium (only benzo doc prescribes here) calming me?
i let my daughter go today my mum has had her all weekend she took her home i just sat there staring into space i couldnt be bothered to speak and she just took her back home and slammed the door on the way out with sarcy comments!!
this is so bad isnt it? what is wrong with me?
why am i fearing everything all the time, why isnt anything looking clear to me anymore? why do i stay in bed all the time and when im up just wanna go to sleep? why does my brain feel as if its shaking? so many more questions just cant think straight ...
worried Donna xx
Posted by Phillipa on May 1, 2005, at 20:06:18
In reply to Re: ITS JUST SOOOOO HORRIBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by crazychickuk on May 1, 2005, at 19:09:36
Greg's putting you in the computer right now. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by loudandclear on May 2, 2005, at 0:10:30
In reply to Re: ITS JUST SOOOOO HORRIBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! » crazychickuk, posted by Phillipa on May 1, 2005, at 20:06:18
I was experiencing VERY similar symptoms a few months back ( a few might remember). I felt like i was going crazy, i lost it for a little while. I slipped it to what i can best describe as a horrible acid trip. Reality was so twisted, i felt that i was going to die. I felt that I was being swallowed up by my own self, and that life as i once knew it was lost forever.
This was happening because a I was withdrawling from Zoloft. I was having panic attacks daily, and when i finally got help I was put on a high dose of Adivan. And Zoloft was back up. So now, 2 months later I feel much better. I'm not sure you situation, but if you feel as i did, you need to get some help. I had the same sorta paranoid dellusions as you. I thought the same sorta things. and while I'm not all to happy about the fact that I'm taking medication for this, I glad that I'm outta that period.
Hope you feel better soon.
d
Posted by wendy0006 on May 4, 2005, at 15:34:35
In reply to ANYONE UNDERSTAND PLSE ?, posted by crazychickuk on April 30, 2005, at 18:10:51
> I am depressed obviousley but i cant cry, i do get panicky over losing my mind other phyiscal symptoms are no bother, i am so paranoid that theres someone watching me all the time, paranoid ppl are out to get me, paranoid someone is following me down my stairs ( i live alone cept my 5yr old) paranoid someone is upstairs, paranoid that what if the tele talks to me, paranoid that i have some kind of a severe mental illness so bad that i will lose my mind, paranoid dead ppl r trying to get into my head, i know none of these are true but cant shift it.
>
> I feel detached unreal (for mnths now) my eyes r blurry as if they aint working proply, as if im losing my bladder control (im not) i have no motivation, laffing is a big task, i feel weak and bad news makes me even weaker i can not handle it.
>
> i can be sat there watching something on tele and it feels as if my brain is switching off, like it shakes then i panick, my eyes goes side to side as if im having a seizure ( maybe i need glasses?)
>
> i havent been on meds sinze stopping zispin sept last yr as they changed the form and i didnt get on with it..
>
> im afraid to go to docs they might put me in hospital and they will give me more meds that just dont agree with me at all, i have never been able to get on with any. i see a private physcologist who says its severe anxiety? what about physcotic depression?
>
> anyone understand what im talking about? anyone know the answer?
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> i cant touch or feel what i should love !! i shouldnt be here i cant even cry ffs!! feels like im losing my sanity :-(i'm sorry you feel so bad. I guess you're in the uk, but most psych drs here will only put you in the hospital if they think you are a danger to yourself or someone else - so will hospitalize only if you say you're suicidal and have an actual plan.
You should see a psych dr immediately - you most likely need an anti-psychotic to control your irrational thoughts, an anti-depressant to elevate your mood - maybe a mood stabilizer. But I would think the anti-psychotic would help you the most - it has helped me (some) with paranoia, magical thinking, and weird thoughts.
good luck, wendy
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