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Posted by Rjlockhart98 on April 18, 2005, at 20:45:32
In reply to Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by paulbwell on April 18, 2005, at 20:40:13
Dexedrine
more charged up
Posted by paulbwell on April 18, 2005, at 20:53:25
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by Rjlockhart98 on April 18, 2005, at 20:45:32
Really, works stronger?
Posted by vivi on April 18, 2005, at 21:05:04
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!! » Rjlockhart98, posted by paulbwell on April 18, 2005, at 20:53:25
> Really, works stronger?
Dex for me because Ritalin made me too moody.
Posted by Phillipa on April 18, 2005, at 22:27:38
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by vivi on April 18, 2005, at 21:05:04
Welcome home Ritch! Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by alohashirt on April 19, 2005, at 0:35:32
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by Phillipa on April 18, 2005, at 22:27:38
Ritalin because it is more consistent and has no food effect.
Dexedrine because it can give cleaer thinking.
Posted by Sarah T. on April 19, 2005, at 0:53:57
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by alohashirt on April 19, 2005, at 0:35:32
Posted by The_Resistance on April 19, 2005, at 11:52:55
In reply to Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by paulbwell on April 18, 2005, at 20:40:13
I have been on Dexedrine, I have never taken Ritalin, so I can't compare them.
The doc who prescribed me the Dex, deffinetly prefered Dexedrine.
Dexedrine has a longer half life than Ritalin, which is I think one of the critical differences.
Dexedrine doesn't usualy cause the crash that Ritalin does!
Posted by scottlaen on April 19, 2005, at 12:54:53
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by The_Resistance on April 19, 2005, at 11:52:55
Is concerta included in this survey?
Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.
Posted by vivi on April 19, 2005, at 19:43:21
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by scottlaen on April 19, 2005, at 12:54:53
> Is concerta included in this survey?
> Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.
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> AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.Would you say Concerta is better than Dex?
Posted by paulbwell on April 19, 2005, at 20:59:30
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by vivi on April 19, 2005, at 19:43:21
> > Is concerta included in this survey?
> > Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.
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> > AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.
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> Would you say Concerta is better than Dex?
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>So Amphetamines are Stromger even at half the equivelent dose 10mg ritalin is weaker than 5mg Dex because of Dexes double whammy action?
And how do you restore response to ritalin that poops out?-I disolve Rit under my tongue-can you with Dex?
Posted by paulbwell on April 20, 2005, at 14:13:51
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!! » vivi, posted by paulbwell on April 19, 2005, at 20:59:30
Pros?
Cons?
Posted by vivi on April 20, 2005, at 17:43:04
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!! » vivi, posted by paulbwell on April 19, 2005, at 20:59:30
> > > Is concerta included in this survey?
> > > Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.
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> > > AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.
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> > Would you say Concerta is better than Dex?
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> So Amphetamines are Stromger even at half the equivelent dose 10mg ritalin is weaker than 5mg Dex because of Dexes double whammy action?
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> And how do you restore response to ritalin that poops out?-I disolve Rit under my tongue-can you with Dex?
No, the 15mg Dex I take are Spanules. I can take up to 2 a day.
Posted by paulbwell on April 20, 2005, at 22:44:29
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by vivi on April 20, 2005, at 17:43:04
> > > > Is concerta included in this survey?
> > > > Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.
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> > > > AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.
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> > > Would you say Concerta is better than Dex?
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> > So Amphetamines are Stromger even at half the equivelent dose 10mg ritalin is weaker than 5mg Dex because of Dexes double whammy action?
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> > And how do you restore response to ritalin that poops out?-I disolve Rit under my tongue-can you with Dex?
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> No, the 15mg Dex I take are Spanules. I can take up to 2 a day.
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What do you take Dex for if I may ask?
Posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 6:31:29
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by paulbwell on April 20, 2005, at 22:44:29
> > > > > Is concerta included in this survey?
> > > > > Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.
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> > > > > AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.
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> > > > Would you say Concerta is better than Dex?
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> > > So Amphetamines are Stromger even at half the equivelent dose 10mg ritalin is weaker than 5mg Dex because of Dexes double whammy action?
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> > > And how do you restore response to ritalin that poops out?-I disolve Rit under my tongue-can you with Dex?
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> > No, the 15mg Dex I take are Spanules. I can take up to 2 a day.
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> What do you take Dex for if I may ask?
> You have asked me this before froma previous post. ADD. What do you take Rit for?
Posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 13:53:42
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 6:31:29
> > > > > > Is concerta included in this survey?
> > > > > > Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.
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> > > > > > AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.
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> > > > > Would you say Concerta is better than Dex?
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> > > > So Amphetamines are Stromger even at half the equivelent dose 10mg ritalin is weaker than 5mg Dex because of Dexes double whammy action?
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> > > > And how do you restore response to ritalin that poops out?-I disolve Rit under my tongue-can you with Dex?
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> > > No, the 15mg Dex I take are Spanules. I can take up to 2 a day.
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> > What do you take Dex for if I may ask?
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> > You have asked me this before froma previous post. ADD. What do you take Rit for?
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> Opps Rit affects my memory, as you see
ADHDKindly P
Posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 17:33:11
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!! » vivi, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 13:53:42
> > > > > > > Is concerta included in this survey?
> > > > > > > Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.
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> > > > > > > AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.
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> > > > > > Would you say Concerta is better than Dex?
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> > > > > So Amphetamines are Stromger even at half the equivelent dose 10mg ritalin is weaker than 5mg Dex because of Dexes double whammy action?
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> > > > > And how do you restore response to ritalin that poops out?-I disolve Rit under my tongue-can you with Dex?
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> > > > No, the 15mg Dex I take are Spanules. I can take up to 2 a day.
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> > > What do you take Dex for if I may ask?
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> > > You have asked me this before froma previous post. ADD. What do you take Rit for?
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> > Opps Rit affects my memory, as you see
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> Kindly P
>No problem:) I actually saw my M.D. today and he is switching me to Adderall 20 mg XR because the Dex takes awhile before it starts working. My doc thinks maybe the Adderall XR might start working faster and work as long as the Dex. I have also had a problem getting the Dex filled because the Pharmacy I go to doesn't always have the amount of Dex prescribed in stock. Have you tried Dex or Adderall?
Viv
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Posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 18:25:34
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by vivi on April 21, 2005, at 17:33:11
> > > > > > > > Is concerta included in this survey?
> > > > > > > > Bottom line is that Dexadrine is an amphetamine and Ritalin is a stimulant. Typically amphetamines are thought as stronger than stimulants (even though amphetamines ARE stimulants), however, there are major issues when it comes to absorbing amphetamines if you eat fatty foods, citric acid (vitamin c), so they can be less reliable.
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> > > > > > > > AS for the crash with Dex vs Rit, I would say the Rit crash is worse, but if you are using concerta, then the story changes because of the unique way the pill releases the medication throughout the day.
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> > > > > > > Would you say Concerta is better than Dex?
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> > > > > > So Amphetamines are Stromger even at half the equivelent dose 10mg ritalin is weaker than 5mg Dex because of Dexes double whammy action?
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> > > > > > And how do you restore response to ritalin that poops out?-I disolve Rit under my tongue-can you with Dex?
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> > > > > No, the 15mg Dex I take are Spanules. I can take up to 2 a day.
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> > > > What do you take Dex for if I may ask?
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> > > > You have asked me this before froma previous post. ADD. What do you take Rit for?
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> > > Opps Rit affects my memory, as you see
> > ADHD
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> > Kindly P
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> >No problem:) I actually saw my M.D. today and he is switching me to Adderall 20 mg XR because the Dex takes awhile before it starts working. My doc thinks maybe the Adderall XR might start working faster and work as long as the Dex. I have also had a problem getting the Dex filled because the Pharmacy I go to doesn't always have the amount of Dex prescribed in stock. Have you tried Dex or Adderall?
> Viv
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Hi Ya,Adderall isn't available downunder,
I have never tried Dex, only IR and SR Rit, IR is more predictable but shorter acting.
Posted by Mr.Scott on April 21, 2005, at 20:36:48
In reply to Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by paulbwell on April 18, 2005, at 20:40:13
In my experience (for depression)...Ritalin is edgier. Dex is smoother. Ritalin is more crash heavy when it wears off each day. Both WILL poop for depression eventually and Dex is harder to stop for some reason.
Posted by theo on April 22, 2005, at 8:52:35
In reply to Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by paulbwell on April 18, 2005, at 20:40:13
I would try Concerta first. If it doesn't work, move on to the amphetamines.
I've been taking Concerta for about 15 days now and it is smooth. It also doesn't effect my appetite and vitamins don't effect it.
I also skipped a day and it was no big deal.
Posted by mikerush on April 22, 2005, at 11:18:51
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!! » paulbwell, posted by theo on April 22, 2005, at 8:52:35
I have tried both and Dexedrine helped me much more than Ritalin. Dex also lasts longer and keeps my ADD at bay.
Posted by alohashirt on April 22, 2005, at 23:19:50
In reply to What do you mean by food effect? (nm) » alohashirt, posted by Sarah T. on April 19, 2005, at 0:53:57
The absorption of dexedrine highly affected by food (amount and acidity, fruit juice being a killer) the same doesn't apply to ritalin family of drugs.
Posted by alohashirt on April 22, 2005, at 23:23:23
In reply to Re: Ritalin Vs Dexedrine Survey!!, posted by Paulbwell on April 21, 2005, at 18:25:34
I found that Adderall made me edgier and had a greater effect on my blood pressure and that dexedrine was smoother.
Posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 16:58:50
In reply to Adderall Vs Dexedrine, posted by alohashirt on April 22, 2005, at 23:23:23
Posted by geno on May 8, 2005, at 1:20:43
In reply to Dexedrine wins then? Adderall second? (nm), posted by Paulbwell on April 23, 2005, at 16:58:50
Im My opinion , which it seems there are alot of factors and such when each drug effects everyone different. But, Iv tried ADDERALLXR, Dex spanuals, Concerta , Ritalin LA, Welbutrin.
ADDERALL IR , currently what I take, Is like top of the latter, and 5 notches down may be dexedrine IR, NOt spanuals, becaause I believe Dex spanuals and XR meds dont effect me well. Maybe Dex IR or dextrostat may work better? I never taken it, but Ritalin was like a rollicoaster ride, and I needed more Klonopin, and there was less focus and positive feeling. Concerta, Actually was not bad. But I did take it in an altered way which i wont get into , has to do with coating.
I wondedr what the Pharmaceutical Methamphetamine would be like? Too addictive or potent, or what. IM an addict but my addiction stems mostly from ADD, and the ADDERALL has helped my addiction in so many ways, and I do not abuse it. I may take an extra dose, NOT together , but instead of going to bed , ill stay up and do more work, but fortunately Im not abusing it, because i dont think any other med I ever tried helped this much.
Klonopin and xanax are to me not addictive, but withdrawl is bad, so you cant stop it, and I use it for breakthrough anxiety from stimulants or just an anxiety ridden day, but ADDerall does calm me more to focus , but I have mental energy like I constantly want to organize my files, Do computer work, read, etc. But not too much social going out type of a thing, but My life is organized 100 percent now.
I disagree with some people that dont beleive that an addict should take stimulants when they are diagnosed with ADD, which causes the person to abuse drugs and alcohol to begin with! THis is actually words from a DR. AMEN who is a scientific researcher and neuroscientist who does Brain Scans and can actually View ADD, I believe it shows colors in areas of the brain lacking certain chemicals or such, but its amazing , I would like to have this done.
IM going to post about this and see if anyone has read his book.
Posted by alohashirt on May 9, 2005, at 22:03:33
In reply to Re: Dexedrine wins then? Adderall second?, posted by geno on May 8, 2005, at 1:20:43
I have heard some very skeptical comments on Amen's work but who knows - maybe he sees things that other doctors aren't yet ready to see. I believe that patioents at his clinic do not actually get Amen himself looking at the scans but rather his acolytes.I agree that prior addiction shouldn't disqualify one from therapeutic use of stimulants. I remember in college causing consternation amongst some friends whne after trying some amphetamine I went straight hiome to work on an essay as my friends continued to party. For some people with ADHD "recreational drug use" is really a crude attempt at self-mediciation.
> Im My opinion , which it seems there are alot of factors and such when each drug effects everyone different. But, Iv tried ADDERALLXR, Dex spanuals, Concerta , Ritalin LA, Welbutrin.
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> ADDERALL IR , currently what I take, Is like top of the latter, and 5 notches down may be dexedrine IR, NOt spanuals, becaause I believe Dex spanuals and XR meds dont effect me well. Maybe Dex IR or dextrostat may work better? I never taken it, but Ritalin was like a rollicoaster ride, and I needed more Klonopin, and there was less focus and positive feeling. Concerta, Actually was not bad. But I did take it in an altered way which i wont get into , has to do with coating.
>
> I wondedr what the Pharmaceutical Methamphetamine would be like? Too addictive or potent, or what. IM an addict but my addiction stems mostly from ADD, and the ADDERALL has helped my addiction in so many ways, and I do not abuse it. I may take an extra dose, NOT together , but instead of going to bed , ill stay up and do more work, but fortunately Im not abusing it, because i dont think any other med I ever tried helped this much.
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> Klonopin and xanax are to me not addictive, but withdrawl is bad, so you cant stop it, and I use it for breakthrough anxiety from stimulants or just an anxiety ridden day, but ADDerall does calm me more to focus , but I have mental energy like I constantly want to organize my files, Do computer work, read, etc. But not too much social going out type of a thing, but My life is organized 100 percent now.
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> I disagree with some people that dont beleive that an addict should take stimulants when they are diagnosed with ADD, which causes the person to abuse drugs and alcohol to begin with! THis is actually words from a DR. AMEN who is a scientific researcher and neuroscientist who does Brain Scans and can actually View ADD, I believe it shows colors in areas of the brain lacking certain chemicals or such, but its amazing , I would like to have this done.
>
> IM going to post about this and see if anyone has read his book.
>
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