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Posted by knicknack55 on March 16, 2005, at 10:18:04
Anyone else feel like this sometimes? It makes me kind of mad that I need 3 (yes, 3) antidepressants to function, and I'm still not even there yet totally. Although, I do feel much better, I will say, but sheesh. I'm taking Zoloft, trazodone to help me sleep, and wellbutrin. I can't take a full 'therapeutic' dose of zoloft, which is why I'm also on Wellbutrin. I currently can't switch antidepressants to find one that works better, either, as I'm about to be let go because of my depression. I don't want to rock the boat too much since things are somewhat better right now. :(
Does anyone else get angry about their need for medicines to make them okay? I know I just get so mad sometimes, why can't I just deal with things on my own, you know? But whenever I try that, surprise surprise, I end up back in the big black ditch that I seem to be fated to wallow in.
It's a weird feeling to be simultaneously excited that I'm feeling more like 'myself' again, and angry that it takes all this medicine to accomplish it.
Posted by jay on March 16, 2005, at 10:59:41
In reply to I feel like I'm turning into an antidepressant, posted by knicknack55 on March 16, 2005, at 10:18:04
> Anyone else feel like this sometimes? It makes me kind of mad that I need 3 (yes, 3) antidepressants to function, and I'm still not even there yet totally. Although, I do feel much better, I will say, but sheesh. I'm taking Zoloft, trazodone to help me sleep, and wellbutrin. I can't take a full 'therapeutic' dose of zoloft, which is why I'm also on Wellbutrin. I currently can't switch antidepressants to find one that works better, either, as I'm about to be let go because of my depression. I don't want to rock the boat too much since things are somewhat better right now. :(
>
> Does anyone else get angry about their need for medicines to make them okay? I know I just get so mad sometimes, why can't I just deal with things on my own, you know? But whenever I try that, surprise surprise, I end up back in the big black ditch that I seem to be fated to wallow in.
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> It's a weird feeling to be simultaneously excited that I'm feeling more like 'myself' again, and angry that it takes all this medicine to accomplish it.
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>I know what you mean..it's tough after many, many years. The tough part too is you are still reminded you are "ill", and we all fear falling down that deep, dark hole. Just take one day at a time, and if your meds are helping, stick with them no matter what. Some side effects to seem to go away after years of use, and I think it takes atleast a year for your self to *really* know if an antidepressant works...and you have gone past that period, so I'd say stick with it.
I have the same problems with my meds too, but what other choice do we have? I think we are the brave ones who spend time finding and then sticking with a med or meds. IMHO....Jay
Posted by Ritch on March 16, 2005, at 11:06:42
In reply to I feel like I'm turning into an antidepressant, posted by knicknack55 on March 16, 2005, at 10:18:04
Sometimes, I think it is just the sheer *numbers* of different medications that are taken that are bothersome. There have been times in the recent past where I was on five psych meds simultaneously, PLUS other meds for other things (allergy, reflux, etc.). It *would* be nice to just take ONE medication, or even TWO psych medications at whatever dose. One thing I find that's a real hassle, is when you have to see ANOTHER doctor. You list all these meds and it almost scares them to treat you for anything else (it seems to me at times anyhow).
Posted by hffcookie on March 16, 2005, at 12:50:01
In reply to I feel like I'm turning into an antidepressant, posted by knicknack55 on March 16, 2005, at 10:18:04
I understand how frustrated you feel, I'm finding I feel the same. I am now on 4 drugs having just added 2 new ones this month after 2 years of Effexor and Adderall and it just makes my head spin. Sometimes feeling like the drugs are bigger than me makes me depressed! Hopefully the resulting emotional stability and clarity are worth it. Best of luck to you and take care.
holly
> Anyone else feel like this sometimes? It makes me kind of mad that I need 3 (yes, 3) antidepressants to function, and I'm still not even there yet totally. Although, I do feel much better, I will say, but sheesh. I'm taking Zoloft, trazodone to help me sleep, and wellbutrin. I can't take a full 'therapeutic' dose of zoloft, which is why I'm also on Wellbutrin. I currently can't switch antidepressants to find one that works better, either, as I'm about to be let go because of my depression. I don't want to rock the boat too much since things are somewhat better right now. :(
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> Does anyone else get angry about their need for medicines to make them okay? I know I just get so mad sometimes, why can't I just deal with things on my own, you know? But whenever I try that, surprise surprise, I end up back in the big black ditch that I seem to be fated to wallow in.
>
> It's a weird feeling to be simultaneously excited that I'm feeling more like 'myself' again, and angry that it takes all this medicine to accomplish it.
Posted by Chris O on March 16, 2005, at 13:20:25
In reply to I feel like I'm turning into an antidepressant, posted by knicknack55 on March 16, 2005, at 10:18:04
Knicknack:
I totally relate to what you are saying. It just ticks me off to no end that I can't feel "normal" or "balanced" without taking some kind of pharmaceutical. And then, even with that, I never feel quite right. For me, my anger turns onto my parents and my family, which I know directly caused my brain to be this way. I don't know how productive it is. But I sure can empathize with what you're feeling.
Grrr...
Chris> Anyone else feel like this sometimes? It makes me kind of mad that I need 3 (yes, 3) antidepressants to function, and I'm still not even there yet totally. Although, I do feel much better, I will say, but sheesh. I'm taking Zoloft, trazodone to help me sleep, and wellbutrin. I can't take a full 'therapeutic' dose of zoloft, which is why I'm also on Wellbutrin. I currently can't switch antidepressants to find one that works better, either, as I'm about to be let go because of my depression. I don't want to rock the boat too much since things are somewhat better right now. :(
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> Does anyone else get angry about their need for medicines to make them okay? I know I just get so mad sometimes, why can't I just deal with things on my own, you know? But whenever I try that, surprise surprise, I end up back in the big black ditch that I seem to be fated to wallow in.
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> It's a weird feeling to be simultaneously excited that I'm feeling more like 'myself' again, and angry that it takes all this medicine to accomplish it.
Posted by Phillipa on March 16, 2005, at 20:32:30
In reply to Yes, I totally relate to your anger » knicknack55, posted by Chris O on March 16, 2005, at 13:20:25
When I worked in the hospital a pt came in on one med, then a second was added, then another to counteract the side effects of the other. And on and on until there was a list of at least l0! Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on March 17, 2005, at 19:18:00
In reply to I feel like I'm turning into an antidepressant, posted by knicknack55 on March 16, 2005, at 10:18:04
I am jealous that you have something that works. I have been on everything that is available and they stop working.
I am not functioning right now.
I am no more angry that I have to antidepressant than if I was diabetic and had to take insulin.
I am angry that I have treatment resistant depression. I am angry that no can help me.
And now that anger is slowly turning into apathy.
So count your blessings that you have found a cocktail that works.
Maxime
Posted by cache-monkey on March 18, 2005, at 13:57:36
In reply to Re: no I don't, posted by Maxime on March 17, 2005, at 19:18:00
Hi Maxime,
It sounds like things are really rough for you right now. But, I'm wondering if you've considered ECT. I know for many it's a scary idea, but I've heard that it can actually be quite effective for treatment-resistent depression.
Best,
cache-monkey> I am jealous that you have something that works. I have been on everything that is available and they stop working.
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> I am not functioning right now.
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> I am no more angry that I have to antidepressant than if I was diabetic and had to take insulin.
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> I am angry that I have treatment resistant depression. I am angry that no can help me.
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> And now that anger is slowly turning into apathy.
>
> So count your blessings that you have found a cocktail that works.
>
> Maxime
Posted by maxime on March 18, 2005, at 20:23:02
In reply to Re: no I don't » Maxime, posted by cache-monkey on March 18, 2005, at 13:57:36
No I will never have ECT. It destroys brain tissue and this is how is was discovered.
The story of electric shock* began in 1938, when Italian psychiatrist Ugo Cerletti visited a Rome slaughterhouse to see what could be learned from the method that was employed to butcher hogs. In Cerletti's own words, "As soon as the hogs were clamped by the [electric] tongs, they fell unconscious, stiffened, then after a few seconds they were shaken by convulsions.... During this period of unconsciousness (epileptic coma), the butcher stabbed and bled the animals without difficulty....
Ernest Hemingway, Nobel Prize-winning author who killed himself after complaining that psychiatric electric shocks had ruined his career by destroying his memory. "Well, what is the sense of ruining my head and erasing my memory, which is my capital, and putting me out of business? It was a brilliant cure but we lost the patient."
I agree with Hemingway.
There is always memory loss with ECT. You never know how much until you have it, and I will not take that chance.
I know you mean well CM, but ECT is not an option for me. I will kill myself first.
Maxime
> Hi Maxime,
>
> It sounds like things are really rough for you right now. But, I'm wondering if you've considered ECT. I know for many it's a scary idea, but I've heard that it can actually be quite effective for treatment-resistent depression.
>
> Best,
> cache-monkey
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> > I am jealous that you have something that works. I have been on everything that is available and they stop working.
> >
> > I am not functioning right now.
> >
> > I am no more angry that I have to antidepressant than if I was diabetic and had to take insulin.
> >
> > I am angry that I have treatment resistant depression. I am angry that no can help me.
> >
> > And now that anger is slowly turning into apathy.
> >
> > So count your blessings that you have found a cocktail that works.
> >
> > Maxime
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>
Posted by cache-monkey on March 19, 2005, at 13:35:02
In reply to Re: no I don't » cache-monkey, posted by maxime on March 18, 2005, at 20:23:02
Wow. Truth be told, I didn't know that much about ECT, and have just heard it touted as an option of last resort. I can see now why it is the last resort, and totally understand your objections/misgivings.
Hope the DBS comes through for you.
Best,
cache-monkey> No I will never have ECT. It destroys brain tissue and this is how is was discovered.
>
> The story of electric shock* began in 1938, when Italian psychiatrist Ugo Cerletti visited a Rome slaughterhouse to see what could be learned from the method that was employed to butcher hogs. In Cerletti's own words, "As soon as the hogs were clamped by the [electric] tongs, they fell unconscious, stiffened, then after a few seconds they were shaken by convulsions.... During this period of unconsciousness (epileptic coma), the butcher stabbed and bled the animals without difficulty....
>
> Ernest Hemingway, Nobel Prize-winning author who killed himself after complaining that psychiatric electric shocks had ruined his career by destroying his memory. "Well, what is the sense of ruining my head and erasing my memory, which is my capital, and putting me out of business? It was a brilliant cure but we lost the patient."
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> I agree with Hemingway.
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> There is always memory loss with ECT. You never know how much until you have it, and I will not take that chance.
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> I know you mean well CM, but ECT is not an option for me. I will kill myself first.
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> Maxime
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> > Hi Maxime,
> >
> > It sounds like things are really rough for you right now. But, I'm wondering if you've considered ECT. I know for many it's a scary idea, but I've heard that it can actually be quite effective for treatment-resistent depression.
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> > Best,
> > cache-monkey
> >
> > > I am jealous that you have something that works. I have been on everything that is available and they stop working.
> > >
> > > I am not functioning right now.
> > >
> > > I am no more angry that I have to antidepressant than if I was diabetic and had to take insulin.
> > >
> > > I am angry that I have treatment resistant depression. I am angry that no can help me.
> > >
> > > And now that anger is slowly turning into apathy.
> > >
> > > So count your blessings that you have found a cocktail that works.
> > >
> > > Maxime
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