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Posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 9:04:10
In reply to Re: TO SLS IMPORTANT » Jeroen, posted by Phillipa on March 11, 2005, at 19:27:48
Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye problem, can it improve much more after weeks therafter or is the limit reached the first 3 weeks?
any theorys?
low dose 5 - 10 mg
i will also take amantadine for weight gain
Posted by SLS on March 12, 2005, at 14:19:03
In reply to Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro, posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 9:04:10
Hi Jeroen
> i will also take amantadine for weight gainWho's idea was this?
I know of someone whom had great success preventing Zyprexa weight gain using amantadine.
- Scott
Posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 14:25:14
In reply to Re: Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro » Jeroen, posted by SLS on March 12, 2005, at 14:19:03
http://www.psycheducation.org/depression/meds/amantadine.htm
i am going to do it, if i dont have serious side effects
Posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2005, at 15:14:02
In reply to Re: Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro, posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 14:25:14
Jeroen, I'm glad to know you are under a pdocs care. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2005, at 15:44:37
In reply to Re: Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro, posted by Jeroen on March 12, 2005, at 14:25:14
Good luck J!
Ed.
Posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2005, at 17:02:28
In reply to Re: Zyprexa after 3 weeks - 40% improvement in eye pro, posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2005, at 15:44:37
Hello,
The nicotine patch can sometimes relieve tics, it has been used to treat Tourette's syndrome. I wonder whether it might help Jeroen.
Ed.
Posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2005, at 17:10:15
In reply to Re: Nicotine, posted by ed_uk on March 12, 2005, at 17:02:28
Hi Ed! I didn't know this. It's worth a try though isn't it? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 9:57:42
In reply to Re: Nicotine » ed_uk, posted by Phillipa on March 12, 2005, at 17:10:15
lol nicotine for tardive dyskinesia, when i smoke the eye blinking spasms are getting worse
anyway, iv been a week of Seroquel and i am still withdrawing, mmm i had this psychotic panic attack still week after withdrawing,
remember i only took 75 mg at night nothing in the morning, and it started on day 6 on 75 mg in 3 PM afternoon
even a week off i had same problems, i think ur right it might been taking the dosage not right
i had the same thing with GEODON if i missed one dose i get hardcore anxiety and my heart beating like crazy
mmm ed can you answer this question, what would usually happen when i dont take seroquel twice a day?could this be the problem because i didnt took it twice a day? and i already in the afternoon suffering from withdrawal symptoms like i have now a week later totally of it?
if thats the case the seroquel might cure me. but im not sure of cure of my eye problem
Posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 10:53:48
In reply to TO ED UK - QUESTION, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 9:57:42
Hi J,
>lol nicotine for tardive dyskinesia, when i smoke the eye blinking spasms are getting worse
:-( I don't suppose a nicotine patch would help then. Anyway, this could be a good opportunity to quit smoking!!
>remember i only took 75 mg at night nothing in the morning, and it started on day 6 on 75 mg in 3 PM afternoon
The panic attack could have been a withdrawal symptom, at 3pm it was a long time since your last dose, the amount of Seroquel in your brain would have been low when you had the attack.
Tell me this....
Was the panic attack that you had while you were taking Seroquel similar to the one that you had after you'd stopped Seroquel?
>could this be the problem because i didnt took it twice a day?
It could be, if you want to try Seroquel again you could take it every 12 hours, twice daily. For example, you could take your morning dose at 8am and your evening dose at 8pm.
Seroquel has a short half-life (about 6 to 7 hours). You might need to take it three times a day!
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 11:03:06
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 10:53:48
< Was the panic attack that you had while you were taking Seroquel similar to the one that you had after you'd stopped Seroquel?
yes, also i experienced things in slow motion, like door opening, very scary really
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 11:03:55
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 11:03:06
but im on zyprexa atm, 5 mg, after 10 days i will increase my dosage to 10 mg
Posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 11:33:23
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 11:03:55
Hi J!
You sound better today, calmer :-)
>but im on zyprexa atm, 5 mg, after 10 days i will increase my dosage to 10 mg
Good luck! I really hope it works out. If not, you can always return to Seroquel. Leponex could be useful if Seroquel doesn't work out.
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 12:05:26
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 11:33:23
thanks
Posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 16:02:06
In reply to Re: TO ED UK - QUESTION, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 12:05:26
im always thinking of killing myself in a few monts from now on, if the zyprexa doesnt cure my eye problem i want to die...
tardive dyskinesia develops after months even not years even from HALDOL, i know someone who had eye blinking after like 12 years of usethe GEODON madness gave it after 3 weeks 20 mg twice a day,
this is absolute madness
I AM SO DUMB, i DONT LIKE MYSELF ANYMORE
i want a new life, and a new body, i am suffering very long time now and enough is enough!!!!!!!!
god dont want me to have happyness, have a girlfriend etc, im so f*cked up.
Posted by Phillipa on March 13, 2005, at 16:28:26
In reply to im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 16:02:06
Jeroen, Try and calm down. You will be okay. Take your meds as the doctor ordered. Try some deep breathing. You have been doing very well the last few days, listening to Scott, and Ed. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 0:04:14
In reply to im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont, posted by Jeroen on March 13, 2005, at 16:02:06
> im always thinking of killing myself in a few monts from now on, if the zyprexa doesnt cure my eye problem i want to die...
Sorry, Jeroen, but you have already committed to waiting until 2006. :-)
I am not making light of your frustration and pain. I am pointing out how labile one's feelings can be regarding suicide. Please do not act on a momentary impulse to perform an act that is forever irreversible.
Q: What is the purpose of life?
A: Life is its own purpose.
C: You have purpose.
Hang in there. You are doing a good job being persistent in advocating for your attainment of health. Setbacks are often inevitable.
- Scott
Posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 5:35:40
In reply to Re: im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont » Jeroen, posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 0:04:14
i still have panick attacks from seroquel withdrawal
Posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 6:20:10
In reply to Re: im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont, posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 5:35:40
> i still have panick attacks from seroquel withdrawal
You know how some people suggest to take one day at a time? That's good advice, but sometimes doesn't take into consideration those times that are the most intensely painful. For those, you might have to take one moment at a time. To get through even one hour might be a momentous achievement.
I don't know what else to say to you at the moment, except that you could perhaps discuss with your doctor the use of Klonopin. Make sure you tell your doctor about everything you are thinking, feeling, and experiencing.
Take care of yourself.
- Scott
Posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 7:25:41
In reply to Re: im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont » Jeroen, posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 6:20:10
SLS i dont understand what you are saying..
Posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 12:42:57
In reply to SLS, posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 7:25:41
i am still withdrawing from seroquel is been 1 week and 3 days now, i still feel high off it, when should it be out of my system?
Posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 15:38:50
In reply to Re: im always thinking of killing myself in a few mont » Jeroen, posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 6:20:10
hi, i want to take amantadine to prevent zyprexa weight gain, for my eeyes
but read this man, i dont want to get fat on the zyprexa but i dont want this to happen to me
I AM SO TIRED ED, SOOOOOO TIRED!!!! after reading this!!!!!
Posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 22:03:25
In reply to SLS, posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 7:25:41
> SLS i dont understand what you are saying..
I guess what I was trying to say is that you are doing a magnificent job of working towards getting well and not giving up.
Klonopin might help you. Ask your doctor about it.
Best wishes.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on March 14, 2005, at 22:07:31
In reply to Re: SLS » Jeroen, posted by SLS on March 14, 2005, at 22:03:25
Yes Jeroen, Keep up the good work. Scott, and Ed know what they are talking about. You will get good advice from people who care about you, I care about you too. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on March 15, 2005, at 10:05:35
In reply to TO EDUK URGENT AMANTADINE!!!!!, posted by Jeroen on March 14, 2005, at 15:38:50
Hi J,
>i am still withdrawing from seroquel is been 1 week and 3 days now, i still feel high off it, when should it be out of my system?
What do you mean when you say you feel high? Don't forget to answer LOL.
>but read this man, i dont want to get fat on the zyprexa but i dont want this to happen to me
Have you ever gained weight on an antipsychotic in the past? Perhaps you wouldn't gain much weight on Zyprexa, not everybody does, although weight gain in a very common side effect.
If you do gain a lot of weight, you could try orlistat, a drug which reduces the amount of fat that your body absorbs when you eat. Serious side effects are very unlikely with orlistat, although it *will* cause diarrhea if you eat too much fatty food! You have to control yourself and eat healthily!
As you know, amantadine can cause depression and psychosis in some people. For other people, amantadine acts as an antidepressant. When you took amantadine before it seemed to make you feel better, perhaps it acts as an antidepressant for you :-)
Weigh yourself regularly while you're on Zyprexa, unless you're gaining tonnes of weight you won't need a weight-loss drug. Try to eat a healthy diet, ask your mother to buy lots of fruit and vegetables!
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on March 15, 2005, at 10:29:47
In reply to Re: Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on March 15, 2005, at 10:05:35
i cant stop eating on zyprexa, this drug gives me diabetes for sure no doubt. i was planning taking amantadine with it because ive read it stops the weight gain, but ive read it causes psychosis..
ii felt its anti depressant effect, but i was thinking lot of good things while on it, like there is a cure for everything, i hope it wasnt psychotic, still i had side effects from it, im just worried that it will cause psychosis in me, that would be making my life from nightmare into hell.
yes i felt high on seroquel, my friend also took it and felt stoned
this is the first drug i respond to, but i dunno what to do now, is amantadine safe with zyprexa?
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