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Posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 18:11:01
My husband is always telling me to try old medications I have that I was taken off of to see if they might work again. I've also now had to play pdoc until I see the new one on Monday. So I've added some meds and started cutting down on another {zoloft} to see if it's adding to my anxiety. Has anyone else done this? And do you always tell the pdoc what you're doing or wait until you see the results? Just wondering. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Glydin on February 10, 2005, at 18:28:37
In reply to Would You Tell The Truth?, posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 18:11:01
It is up to you, but I think it's difficult for a doc to treat you if you aren't honest about what you're doing.
While I think it's important to be well informed and advocate for yourself, I feel a prescribing person should be someone you can be honest with and have them work with you as a team going toward your goal.
I think it's ill advised for even a doc to treat themselves.
Posted by Impermanence on February 10, 2005, at 18:34:59
In reply to Would You Tell The Truth?, posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 18:11:01
I think it's great you're intelligent and experienced enough to self medicate and understand your meds. Society has done a good job over the years of feeding the illusion to the duller masses that the "individual" without a PhD must always have help and permission from so called "professionals" before ingesting a chemical to find peace of mind, which in many cases is absurd.
You've been around a while, you know your meds, you know how you feel, you have all the information you will ever need at your fingertips, it's your body, your choice, you're no fool. More power to you I say.
Posted by Sebastian on February 10, 2005, at 18:37:05
In reply to Re: Would You Tell The Truth? » Phillipa, posted by Impermanence on February 10, 2005, at 18:34:59
Once you have the prescription it is yours.
Posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 19:05:10
In reply to Would You Tell The Truth?, posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 18:11:01
I would never not tell a pdoc what I've been doing, but I really have no choice until I know I have found an individual who has my best interests at heart and not the drug companies. I guess part of this comes as a consequense of now knowing the pdoc you saw most of the 8yrs you were severely anxious and depressed had been "run out of three cities" and was under investigation by Federal Agents for medical fraud, and illegal distribution of controlled substances. This is a man I worshipped and thought of him as a Father. It's a really hard thing to get over. Now it's so hard to trust any of them especially since the last one put you into W/D, and wouldn't listen. It took a neurologist to validate what I already knew, that I was indeed in W/D, and his Rx and permission to go back on Chloral Hydrate for now. I am having a hard time getting over it and my husband has always advocated trying my own thing. Then when I tell him what I'm going to change he is unsure that is what I should do. If I know it won't hurt me and it worked in the past, I can't see the harm. And yes I will definately tell the new pdoc on Monday. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by med_empowered on February 10, 2005, at 19:39:14
In reply to Re: Would You Tell The Truth?, posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 19:05:10
hey! The experimentation thing doesn't bother some docs, and really, really bothers others. One I had would always irritate b/c I'd try something...for example, I took Ambien or Sonata (I forget which one) with seroquel b/c the seroquel gave me hellish nightmares which an add-on sedative seemed to relieve. My doc's response? Don't do that. Fast forward 2 weeks--I'm not sleeping well, I'm having nightmares...what does the doc recommend? Ambien+Seroquel. I was floored.
Posted by Glydin on February 10, 2005, at 19:47:14
In reply to Re: Would You Tell The Truth?, posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 19:05:10
I'm really sorry for what you have been through with your history with your past pdoc. I hope the doc you see on Monday will be a good fit and someone you can work with.
I have been fortunate and have had a great doc who has always listened to me. I tend to see situations from that standpoint and it is how I think things should go. I also realize, while I know my history, my trials, my responses, I have a VERY difficult time being objective about my situation. This is a product of my anxiety disorder. I'm one that requires objective and, hopefully, knowledgeable, insight.
Again, best of luck to you.
Posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 19:53:56
In reply to Re: Would You Tell The Truth? » Phillipa, posted by Glydin on February 10, 2005, at 19:47:14
Med_empowered; That's funny! Maybe if you had said hummmm I'm having these awful nightmares that I think the seroquel is causing, I wonder if something like ambien would work to stop them? Then say No that's stupid that would never work. A little of "reverse" psychology. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on February 10, 2005, at 20:10:31
In reply to Would You Tell The Truth?, posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 18:11:01
I would tell the truth because otherwise they can't evaluate you properly. At the same time, I wouldn't start taking ANYTHING else if I were you. You should wait until Monday. It's not that far off especially considering how long you have been suffering for. Tell you husband to stop playing the role of pdoc <grin>.
Maxime
> My husband is always telling me to try old medications I have that I was taken off of to see if they might work again. I've also now had to play pdoc until I see the new one on Monday. So I've added some meds and started cutting down on another {zoloft} to see if it's adding to my anxiety. Has anyone else done this? And do you always tell the pdoc what you're doing or wait until you see the results? Just wondering. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 20:39:22
In reply to Re: Would You Tell The Truth?, posted by Maxime on February 10, 2005, at 20:10:31
I basically just put myself on what they started my detox with. I never told them I wanted to get off the current sleep meds I was on. She basically told me "They're not working for you anymore". Just because I wake up during the night and can't get back to sleep. This is not a new problem, and I have always gotten up to go to the bathroom and then can't fall back to sleep. She was of the "school" that anything that is a benzo or old is "bad". I did cut the zoloft down to 25mg as I felt this was adding to my anxiety and W/D side effects. She had just put my Son on zoloft for PTSD, and he is a big guy. She started him on 25mg and he says he feels wierd. So, I wondered if this was too much for me to handle yet. Thanks, Maxime. You're always there with support! Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by gromit on February 11, 2005, at 16:10:08
In reply to Re: Would You Tell The Truth? » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on February 10, 2005, at 20:39:22
I told my GP about my trial with depakote and she asked why the heck I had kept taking it. Since then I have a new perspective on drugs and doctors, my pdoc is the doctor but he's not my god. I never lie to him but I might tell him after the fact and he's usually ok with it. If it starts getting bad I call him ASAP though.
Rick
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