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Posted by ed_uk on January 14, 2005, at 13:24:06
In reply to Re: AP's and panic disorder? » banga, posted by Ritch on January 14, 2005, at 13:11:44
Can we keep my dopamine receptors unblocked please??! I like dopamine!
Ed.
Posted by banga on January 14, 2005, at 18:39:20
In reply to Re: I hate Thorazine!! » Ritch, posted by ed_uk on January 14, 2005, at 13:22:47
Well, I guess you won't touch that stuff anymore! OMG that is awful. Glad you made it out of that!
Posted by banga on January 16, 2005, at 15:54:13
In reply to Re: I hate Thorazine!! » ed_uk, posted by banga on January 14, 2005, at 18:39:20
I actually wonder whether it happens in this way:
Initial response can be antianxiety. for Geodon, this would make great sense--it hits 5HT2a big time, more than anything else. I saw pie charts (and silly me I didnt write down the site!)of the APs and how strongly they each act on various sites.
But in another site, I noted that akathisia onset can be in 3 days--or 60 days. So when blood concentrations hit a certain level, akathisia set in--and with the agitation comes awful anxiety.I also read three studies which suggested that people who are suicidal have overly active 5HT2a sites. So why would it be a mystery to scientists if an SSRI can lead to suicidal tinking--but activating 5HT2a? no? Or are there other considerations? Of course three studies doesn't prove it, but surely they aren't to be just dismissed? Ill try to write out the link to one of the 5HT2a studies I had the presence of mind to print out:
http://www.psych.uic.edu/research/serotonin_receptors.htm
Posted by Jeroen on January 20, 2005, at 9:07:04
In reply to Re: anxiety and APs and 5HT2a, posted by banga on January 16, 2005, at 15:54:13
it gave me HARDCORE ANXIETY, HEADACHES FROM HELL, SEDATION FROM HELL, WEIGHT GAIN FROM HELL, AND OH YES BEFORE I FORGOT IT GAVE ME TARDIVE DYSKINESIA, MY EYES ARE MAKING UNCONTROLLED MOVEMENTS,
IM LIKE 5 MONTHS OFF THIS DRUG FROM SATAN
Posted by KaraS on January 20, 2005, at 11:22:48
In reply to GEODON IS VERY BAD!!, posted by Jeroen on January 20, 2005, at 9:07:04
> it gave me HARDCORE ANXIETY, HEADACHES FROM HELL, SEDATION FROM HELL, WEIGHT GAIN FROM HELL, AND OH YES BEFORE I FORGOT IT GAVE ME TARDIVE DYSKINESIA, MY EYES ARE MAKING UNCONTROLLED MOVEMENTS,
>
> IM LIKE 5 MONTHS OFF THIS DRUG FROM SATAN
Do you mind if I ask you what kind of dosage you took? Was it a low or high dose? I think of you when I hear about Geodon. Has your problem with your eyes gotten any better? I hope and pray that it will.
Posted by Jeroen on January 20, 2005, at 11:32:22
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!! » Jeroen, posted by KaraS on January 20, 2005, at 11:22:48
i took GEODON minimal dosage for short period
GEODON 20 MG twice a day for 3 weeks no longer
Posted by Sebastian on January 20, 2005, at 18:56:05
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!!, posted by Jeroen on January 20, 2005, at 11:32:22
Do your eyes still blink? You said you almost forgot to mention that.
Posted by Jeroen on January 20, 2005, at 19:58:07
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!!, posted by Sebastian on January 20, 2005, at 18:56:05
yes they do, they also make uncontrolled movements,
its all on geodon side effects profile it sais UNCONTROLLED EYE MOVEMENTS, what they dont mention it is possible you have it for the rest of your life!
i know for someone this drug is god blessed, but for me its satan drug!
Posted by KaraS on January 20, 2005, at 23:21:58
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!!, posted by Jeroen on January 20, 2005, at 11:32:22
> i took GEODON minimal dosage for short period
>
> GEODON 20 MG twice a day for 3 weeks no longer
>
>That's amazing. I'll definitely stay away from it. Had you taken any other atypicals before?
Posted by Terry on January 21, 2005, at 9:34:07
In reply to GEODON IS VERY BAD!!, posted by Jeroen on January 20, 2005, at 9:07:04
> it gave me HARDCORE ANXIETY, HEADACHES FROM HELL, SEDATION FROM HELL, WEIGHT GAIN FROM HELL, AND OH YES BEFORE I FORGOT IT GAVE ME TARDIVE DYSKINESIA, MY EYES ARE MAKING UNCONTROLLED MOVEMENTS,
>
> IM LIKE 5 MONTHS OFF THIS DRUG FROM SATANI had the same experience with HARDCORE ANXIETY with Geodon. It threw me, from chronic moderate depression, into major depression. It was torture being alive. I also had horrible withdrawals once I went off. I felt like I was in HELL for about six months afterward. For me Geodon was truely THE DRUG FROM SATAN.
Terry
Posted by sdjeff on January 23, 2005, at 0:58:06
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!! Me too! » Jeroen, posted by Terry on January 21, 2005, at 9:34:07
I also had a horrible time with Geodon. Major anxiety and paranoia were the worst. I believe I had a psychotic break. Took months to get over it. I took it for 4 days. Ugh.
Other people do well on it. I sure as sh*t didn't.
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 10:46:50
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!! Me too!, posted by sdjeff on January 23, 2005, at 0:58:06
your lucky you didnt took this longer, like few weeks, might got yourself a nice tardive dyskinesia
this drug is the worst ive ever taken
Posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 10:58:49
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!! Me too!, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 10:46:50
Hi Jeroen,
Have you decided to have Botox?
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:05:18
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!! » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 10:58:49
im going to try medicines first, anti psychotic
the psy doc sais it drastic solution, it will be my last resort if nothing else works.. i will give it a try
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:19:45
In reply to Re: GEODON IS VERY BAD!! » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 10:58:49
hi, i am taking amantadine 100 mg, after 4 days i feel better really, more energy, happyer
none of those anti psychotics i ever taken even abilify gave me a better feeling... whats going on here?
ive read amatandine has anti depressant effect, well it sure has on me really
Posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 11:47:11
In reply to TO ED_UK, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:19:45
Hi Jeroen,
Which antipsychotic are you going to try next? Clozapine (Clozaril/Leponex)?
>i feel better really, more energy, happyer
I really glad it's helping :-) I've also read that amantadine can have an antidepressant effect. The related drug memantine (Ebixa/Namenda) is apparantly being tested to see whether it will work as an antidepressant.
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:51:15
In reply to Re: Amantadine as an antidepressant » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 11:47:11
zyprexa 5 mg, im going to take it for 2 months
maybe it will solve my eye problemif that doesnt work, ill talk about my doctor about clozaril (im pretty scared about this medicine)
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:55:39
In reply to Re: Amantadine as an antidepressant, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:51:15
hi, do you think 5 mg zyprexa will solve the eye problem? should i take 30 mg zyprexa?
i was almost blind when taking zyprexa 10 mg for 2 weeks, aggressive blinking
after 3 weeks i noticed my blinking was bit less but i discontinued the drug for the nasty weight gain
Posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 12:14:13
In reply to NEW POST FOR ED_UK, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 11:55:39
Hi Jeroen,
It is possible that Zyprexa might reduce the blinking but it is also possible that it might make it worse.
I think you should try taking 2.5 or 5mg Zyprexa. 30mg is a very high dose.
Will you be going to see an ophthalmologist soon?
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 12:15:34
In reply to Re: To Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 23, 2005, at 12:14:13
i already did they suggested botox but i want to try it otherwise now
Posted by ed_uk on January 24, 2005, at 9:25:41
In reply to Re: To Jeroen, posted by Jeroen on January 23, 2005, at 12:15:34
Hi,
OK, keep me up to date on how you're doing :-)
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 24, 2005, at 14:12:12
In reply to Re: To Jeroen » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 24, 2005, at 9:25:41
i was wondering, i once took Seroquel but the sedation was high i was a zombie the next day
also i got taught my cat made me sick, it was her fault, i dont have these taughts when i am unmedicated
Please i need your help
Posted by Jeroen on January 24, 2005, at 18:13:18
In reply to TO ED_UK NEW, posted by Jeroen on January 24, 2005, at 14:12:12
hi, i just read TD is treatable or reversible with clozaril in general,
also a doctor sais it is reversable within 4 months, my 4 months are almost at an end... i need to do this dont you think? its my last hope to get rid of this...
im affraid to try Clozaril, but if its the only thing that might reverse my tardive dyskinesia
sorry about the urgent matter, but in a few days im going to discuss this with my psy doc...
Posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 9:36:22
In reply to TO ED_UK NEW, posted by Jeroen on January 24, 2005, at 14:12:12
Hello,
>a doctor sais it is reversable within 4 months, my 4 months are almost at an end... i need to do this dont you think? its my last hope to get rid of this...
No, it is not your last hope. What the doctor probably meant was that if TD is going to improve without treatment, it is most likely to do so within the first four months. TD can be successfully treated at any time.
>im affraid to try Clozaril, but if its the only thing that might reverse my tardive dyskinesia
Clozapine is not the only treatment, there are other treatments that we have discussed.
>also i got taught my cat made me sick, it was her fault, i dont have these taughts when i am unmedicated
Are you having strange thoughts? It could be the amantadine, sometimes amantadine worsens psychotic symptoms. Make sure that you tell your new psych doctor that you are taking amantadine.
Best Regards,
Ed.
Posted by Jeroen on January 25, 2005, at 10:33:14
In reply to Re: Clozapine » Jeroen, posted by ed_uk on January 25, 2005, at 9:36:22
the only taught with amantadine was i felt much much better after a week on it, but i did had some taught maybe it was bit euphoria, that i will get cured of my problems, and in the future they can cure everybody perfectly, that theres an answer for everything, i felt good while having these taughts
amantadine caused these taughts... im affraid i will get psychosis of these taughts.. thats whats actually bothering me from the amantadine
seroquel did gave me strange taughts, i heared some people telling you can get psychotic when taking seroquel, im PRETTY sure i got it from that taughts that my cat made me sick and its her fault is not a normal taught, i usually think lot of my cat because of care of her, so these taught are PROOF that its bad!!! i REALLY DONT KNOW ANYMORE!!!!will Clozaril can make me also psychotic?
i dont want that, im VERY affraid!
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