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Posted by corafree on January 5, 2005, at 17:10:27
In reply to I found another link worth reading...., posted by dancingstar on January 5, 2005, at 17:01:25
Was that, "I'm a whole, different kind of problem. It's not at all the same thing. Don't forget that I was never physically depressed and given an antidepressant", that you said above?
What did you mean by physically depressed or did you just assume something about me? Did a doctor force Eff-XR down your throat? I think most people here get the message. Do you have nothing else to do but watch for people having trouble on an AD? I've babblemailed you often and you ignore me. Yes, you've made me feel inferior, whether you are willing to admit it on psycho-babble or not. It is not considerate and is very invalidating. Thank You cf
Posted by dancingstar on January 5, 2005, at 17:23:42
In reply to Re: I found another link worth reading.... » dancingstar, posted by corafree on January 5, 2005, at 17:10:27
I don't use babblemail.
What I mean is that I have taken a lot of heat for telling people what to do. I don't want to suggest that if you are seeing a psychologist or a psychiatrist, that you shouln't listen to them. Some of us were prescribed Effexor-XR by doctors for either mild depression or not for depression at all without being told that there were any side effects. Our doctors also didn't know that there were any problems associated with taking the drug.
You sounded sad in your post is all that I meant. I just didn't want you to be sad. I'm sorry, Corafree, that I don't have time to answer really personal stuff. It is true that I am concerned with the health and safety of people taking Effexor. I don't have enough time and energy to handle that and my own life and take on more than this, too. I sincerely apologize to you if I did anything to hurt your feelings, I didn't mean to in any way. I'm wiped and so out of time. Some have even asked why I'm not concerned about other drugs. Gee, well, I am not involved with other drugs or the whole world. I only know about limited experience. This company misrepresented the harm done by its product. That's all I know. I am really sorry if I did anything wrong or to hurt you or anyone else. It's just information. Do with it whatever you want. It is all there for everyone to read and come to your own conclusions.
Posted by dancingstar on January 5, 2005, at 17:29:02
In reply to Re: I found another link worth reading.... » dancingstar, posted by corafree on January 5, 2005, at 17:10:27
one last thing. I agree with you about one thing, CF, I'm sick to death of posting. God willing, any second now I won't have to do this even one more time, not here or anywhere else. It will be front-page news and plastered all over the television.
Posted by S. Bartel on January 5, 2005, at 17:32:39
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR?, posted by Jeff Guider on December 31, 2004, at 13:51:45
> ive been on it for 5 days at 37.5.....supposed to go up to 75mg tomorrow.......not sure what to do
I took it for 7 years.
Posted by corafree on January 5, 2005, at 19:05:27
In reply to Re: I found another link worth reading...., posted by dancingstar on January 5, 2005, at 17:29:02
Dancingstar - You are signed up to receive babblemail; Dr. Bob may should have let you know, if you were not reeiving it. You might watch to change that. Thank you for explaining. It feel it's important you mention your illness in relation to the treatment you rec'd (Eff-XR.) I agree with one thing, I was wrong to imply that you would take a pill w/o question. It is good to be a self-advocate, and I've learned that here. best wishes back at 'ya, cf
one last thing. I agree with you about one thing, CF, I'm sick to death of posting. God willing, any second now I won't have to do this even one more time, not here or anywhere else. It will be front-page news and plastered all over the television.
Posted by S. Bartel on January 5, 2005, at 19:21:28
In reply to I AM SORRY I EVER TOOK EFFEXOR » FaithT, posted by dancingstar on January 3, 2005, at 10:57:05
I agree with everything Dancingstar says and more.
All I can say is to have regular blood tests that show any changes in liver function. I believe the longer you take it the more damage it does. I thought it was a wonder drug too. I took it for 7 years and was in too much of a fog to realize that all the things going wrong with my body was caused by effexor-xr. Actually I did'nt even care. Nothing bothered me, I accomplished nothing except sleep and lots of it. I have been off it now for about 10 or 11 weeks. Still have side effects that will never go away, but my thinking is clear and I have energy that I have not had in years. The worst of the side effects is irreversible liver disease that will kill me.
I do want effexor taken off the market so others don't have to go through what I have gone through. I am very angry at Wyeth and the FDA for putting such a dangerous drug on the market. That's the way I feel.
Posted by corafree on January 5, 2005, at 19:40:37
In reply to Re: I AM SORRY I EVER TOOK EFFEXOR » dancingstar, posted by S. Bartel on January 5, 2005, at 19:21:28
Sammi - There is no 'wonder drug' ... only drugs that will make you wonder! I pray there is some cell reparation w/ good care; unfortunately many substances are detrimental to the liver. You are not destined to die from liver failure. People with hepatitis pass away from heart or lung probs, for example. Pls share how currently doing on Elavil; would very much appreciate. cf
Posted by corafree on January 5, 2005, at 20:07:35
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR? -t, posted by jubilee on January 2, 2005, at 12:03:35
I've had a hard time w/ forgiveness, and your idea has given me a new frontier to start from. I guess I never really did get 'mad' enough at the 'offenders'. I really, really appreciate this info. tks cf
Posted by dancingstar on January 5, 2005, at 20:35:00
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR...yes.(long), posted by not2late4u on January 3, 2005, at 0:10:52
> Hi Faith~ My insurance wont allow my gp treat depression/anxiety or any "mental health" disorder either. So thats one reason why I went a psychiatrist and my older sister made a good point anyways, they are the ones who are the most knowledgable in "mental health" and those types of medications. I have been on effexor for about 2- 2 1/2 years, prior to that paxil for about 1 1/2 years. I liked effexor better than paxil. Renee
Some of you will be happy to know that I can't do this much longer cause I am just plain too tired, but since I am providing information, I thought that you all might like to have this also:http://www.crazymeds.org/effexor.html
Happy reading...or I should say, read in good health.
Blessings,
Bebe
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 5, 2005, at 22:00:22
In reply to Re: I found another link worth reading.... » dancingstar, posted by corafree on January 5, 2005, at 17:10:27
> you are truly unfair in the things that you are posting to these people on this board, in answering every question with scare tactics. That is just not right, and unfair to the poster.
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> FaithT> I sincerely disagree with the facts as you present them, but I respect your right to post them. It seems as though you don't feel that I have the same right simply because you disagree with me.
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> dancingstar> your mission is blinded by your pain and anger
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> not2late4u> those that try to suppress the right of others to find out
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> dancingstar> Do you have nothing else to do but watch for people having trouble on an AD?
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> corafreePlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by S. Bartel on January 5, 2005, at 22:15:17
In reply to Re: I AM SORRY I EVER TOOK EFFEXOR » S. Bartel, posted by corafree on January 5, 2005, at 19:40:37
CF
I no longer take any drugs. Not even elavil. I only used it to help the withdrawls from effexor.
Posted by dancingstar on January 5, 2005, at 22:26:38
In reply to Re: please be civil » FaithT » dancingstar » Renee » corafree, posted by Dr. Bob on January 5, 2005, at 22:00:22
I'm sorry, Dr. Bob.
You are right. The whole thing got out of hand. I will try to be more thoughtful before I post and less passionate.
Thank you for your message board; it is a great service that you provide to I can't begin to imagine how many people that never post at all, but just read what is written here.
Posted by corafree on January 6, 2005, at 5:34:18
In reply to Re: please be civil » FaithT » dancingstar » Renee » corafree, posted by Dr. Bob on January 5, 2005, at 22:00:22
Again, in the proper place, I apologize. No excuses. What I said was wrong. Tks Bob
Posted by ckc on January 6, 2005, at 13:22:23
In reply to Re: I AM GRATEFUL for Effexor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! » ckc, posted by Phillipa on January 4, 2005, at 16:22:41
I want to thank all of you who replied to my post. This the first time I have been on any type of chat line and it has proven to be very helpful. As a result of reading many posts, My pdoc and I worked out a plan where I will stay on the 75mg for now and see how I feel before jumping right to the 150. He readily told me that there are some people who have a really hard time with withdrawal. Hearing that made me realize any reduction we make will be slow. Thanks again for the support. ckc
Posted by dancingstar on January 6, 2005, at 13:27:19
In reply to Re: I AM GRATEFUL for Effexor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! » Phillipa, posted by ckc on January 6, 2005, at 13:22:23
I'm glad you had a chance to read some information and then speak with your doctor about it. That way you can feel like you are taking good care of your health. Good luck to you!!
Bebe
Posted by jubilee on January 6, 2005, at 15:24:20
In reply to Re: I AM GRATEFUL for Effexor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! » Phillipa, posted by ckc on January 6, 2005, at 13:22:23
I can't resit responing to you another day as your subject of thankfulnes keeps coming upon my e mail.
Sometimes we take chances because we feel we have no other choices , and effexor really does kill people , destroy s your vision, as it has nine and my memory *ss when I found the side affect site for a petition on banning effexor I found I suffered four years all from the effexor and all I didnt get was the high blood presure in which you will have to go off cold turkey without choice if that happens to you.
Slow? My dr's idea of slow was 6 weeks and I was on 300 mgs for 4 years. I would have died if I hadnt started out with a large amout to withdraw from. I took 5 months and that felt too slow and actually quiting and dealing with the nausea was the pits not to mention there seems to be the problem with making you highly agitated (worse than comming off herion) and your blow up easy and crying uncontrolsbly easily.I so hope you will talk to your dr about an older anti depressant , anything but paxil and effexor , which is all about comming up with new things and money , unfortunatly, but there are many to choose from that have worked well for others for years . Dr's like to keep changing everybodys drugs because I believe they buy stock in these new drugs and the pill pushes always get in to see the dr's first. Ever notice that. And they start out real expensive for all the research to create these drugs. Effexor was a good anti depressant and its the only one that works on two different parts of the brain which is why they cant replace it with anything and you must withdraw. If your Dr really knew about effexor he never would have put you on it. I was an insomniac as long as I was on it and had hypermania. I can only share my experience with you and pray it gives you more to make a choice with. God Bless you in your decision and remember its your body , not the doc's that its going into. Jubilee
Posted by jubilee on January 6, 2005, at 15:32:31
In reply to Re: I AM GRATEFUL for Effexor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by jubilee on January 6, 2005, at 15:24:20
Ive been off it a week now and I just started the iching here and there. Drives ya nuts. Jubilee
Posted by S. Bartel on January 6, 2005, at 20:15:37
In reply to Re: I AM GRATEFUL for Effexor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by jubilee on January 6, 2005, at 15:32:31
> Ive been off it a week now and I just started the iching here and there. Drives ya nuts. Jubilee
It's strange that my itching and breaking out came after I was on effexor-xr about 3 or 4 years.
It went away about 4 weeks after I quit taking it.
Sammi
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 6, 2005, at 22:57:52
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by dancingstar on January 5, 2005, at 22:26:38
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 6, 2005, at 22:58:39
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by corafree on January 6, 2005, at 5:34:18
Posted by ckc on January 7, 2005, at 10:55:04
In reply to Re: I AM GRATEFUL for Effexor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by jubilee on January 6, 2005, at 15:24:20
Jubilee, I truly appreciate your concern. I was supposed to increase yesterday but called my pdoc and voiced my concern. We agreed to keep the same dosage until I see him next week. My PCP started me on it; my pdoc was away. At that point I was on the brink of suicide and was not asking any questions, just barely functioning. Looking back, if I had refused I am sure I would have been committed and given it anyway, who knows at what dose. Thanks also to Bebe. CKC
Posted by dancingstar on January 7, 2005, at 11:09:22
In reply to Re: I AM GRATEFUL for Effexor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by ckc on January 7, 2005, at 10:55:04
ckc,
I do hope you feel better soon!! I'm beginning to understand what's going on with Effexor if only because I've been studying it now for a while. I think it's possible that if you are missing certain things in your body that are making you depressed, Effexor won't be as hard on your system, physically, as it will be on people who take it without needing to take it for a physical as opposed to an emotional reason.
Does this make any sense? I'll post a link for you that I found to help you with some of your decisions down the line. It may not be the wrong drug for everyone, but it is absolutely the wrong drug for some people, and it would sure help it doctors didn't prescribe it to those of us that shouldn't be taking it in the first place. Even then, keeping the dosage as low as possible seems to be the way to go.
Best of luck to you in everything, and I wish you tons and tons of happiness!!!
http://www.crazymeds.org/effexor.html
Posted by Gia on January 7, 2005, at 11:12:39
In reply to Re: I AM GRATEFUL for Effexor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, posted by ckc on January 7, 2005, at 10:55:04
I was pretty bad before I started taking Effexor, on the brink of suicide, in hospital, seeing doctors. I tried Paxil, Prozac, Celexa and nothing seemed to work for I even tried to commit suicide by taking my whole bottle of Paxil but I think that was just a cry for help. Effexor has been great for me. I have not had many side effects and I finally know what is it like to feel happy and content, the first time since I was a kid I think, I think this drug is good for those who really need it.
Posted by willow918 on January 7, 2005, at 13:52:48
In reply to Re: Anyone had success on Effexor XR...yes.(long), posted by dancingstar on January 5, 2005, at 20:35:00
I have read through the most recent posts here and wanted to state that I have had fantastic results with Effexor. In fact, I recently increased my dosage from 75mg per day to 150mg. The reason for the increase was due to the onset of sever depression, crying and just the feeling of helplessness...my PCP listened intently and when she told me she wanted to increase the dosage I hesitated but then agreed. I am so glad I did as within about a week or so I began to feel the veil of darkness lift. Today I feel like a new woman...one with a purpose once again.
I agree that Effexor...and I feel neither is Paxil or any of the other antidepressants aren't for everyone. This is where you need to report problems to your physician so something else can be prescribed that will work for you.
Good Luck to all.
Posted by dancingstar on January 7, 2005, at 13:58:22
In reply to Excellent Results, posted by willow918 on January 7, 2005, at 13:52:48
By contrast, I was taking 75mg of Effexor and became extremely weepy and depressed. I, too, consulted my internist and we decided that I should increase the dosage to 150 mg. After about three weeks, I became more depressed, more fatigued, and gained more weight.
That is how I began to get a clue that Effexor was the cause and not the solution. I would never have known otherwise.
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