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Posted by linkadge on December 26, 2004, at 19:49:49
Anyone try the combination of effexor and depakote ??
Linkadge
Posted by crazychickuk on December 26, 2004, at 20:19:13
In reply to anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by linkadge on December 26, 2004, at 19:49:49
links thats the worst med to try with the way ur feeling ...
can u sign into hospital to get off all meds ur on and just stick to benzo/antileptic such as depotake?
im thinking of you .... i know the feelings up there :-(
hey r u still using ur home made tms machine thingy? do u trhink that could be ading to ur probs?
Posted by linkadge on December 27, 2004, at 9:22:45
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by crazychickuk on December 26, 2004, at 20:19:13
Havn't used the machine in a little while now.
I can't get off the meds. I tried last semester and ended up in the hospital. I waiseted $4000 in tuition and books and stuff. I can't take that risk again. I worked all summer to have the chance to go to school, I can't mess around with my meds again.Linkadge
Posted by crazychickuk on December 27, 2004, at 10:47:31
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by linkadge on December 27, 2004, at 9:22:45
What exactly are you taking?
Posted by linkadge on December 27, 2004, at 16:19:54
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by crazychickuk on December 27, 2004, at 10:47:31
Celexa 10mg, lithium 600mg, and depakote 125mg.
However, I have only really been taking the celexa, since the lithium, and depakote bring me very down.
Linadge
Posted by crazychickuk on December 27, 2004, at 18:55:17
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by linkadge on December 27, 2004, at 16:19:54
Are you gonna come of the celexa? can u get hold of the liquid and just lose 1 mg a mnth or something? i would take the depotake low dose if u can that may help with the buzzing twitching etc etc
Posted by linkadge on December 28, 2004, at 12:09:06
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by crazychickuk on December 27, 2004, at 18:55:17
Crazychick, I don't mean to sound disrespecfull, but I am very suicidal at the moment. Although I am suffering horrable side effects I don't wish on anybody, I can't just taper off. Thats what put me in the hospital for a 3 weeks with even worse suicidal thoughts and impulses.
I need something else to keep the suicidal impulses away. The depakote may help the side effects but it doesn't help my depression, infact it makes it worse.
Linkadge
Posted by crazychickuk on December 28, 2004, at 12:40:10
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by linkadge on December 28, 2004, at 12:09:06
O i am sorry links ... i knew you were bad thought it was cus of the celexa ...
Have you by any chance tryed an maoi ?
Posted by jujube on December 28, 2004, at 13:09:31
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by linkadge on December 28, 2004, at 12:09:06
Link,
I hate to hear how much you are suffering. You are always so kind and helpful to others on the board, and it breaks my heart that you are not finding any relief.
When do you next see your pdoc? Have you got a list of alternative meds ready to discuss with him/her? Perhaps you and your pdoc should be considering a TCA. If I am remembering correctly, you had been thinking about asking for a TCA a little while ago. Perhaps a TCA and a new mood stabilizer (Lamictal? which I think also has some AD properties) would provide better relief and be more effective.
On another note, do you plan to return to school next semester (January) or will you be waiting until the new school year in the fall?
Hang in there Link. I will be thinking about you.
Take care.
Tamara
> Crazychick, I don't mean to sound disrespecfull, but I am very suicidal at the moment. Although I am suffering horrable side effects I don't wish on anybody, I can't just taper off. Thats what put me in the hospital for a 3 weeks with even worse suicidal thoughts and impulses.
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Posted by linkadge on December 28, 2004, at 14:45:41
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ?? » linkadge, posted by jujube on December 28, 2004, at 13:09:31
Didn't mean to sound harsh crazychick. The celexa *is* causing a lot of problems but I can't deny that it is also helping my depression to a certain degree, and I would be worse off (emotionally) without it. Side effect wise I'd like to throw it away and never come back.
Tamera, I will be returning to school in a few days. I'm just praying that the new docotor I see will be understanding, and not an arrogent dweeb who needs to take some of his own medicine.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on December 28, 2004, at 14:46:58
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ?? » linkadge, posted by jujube on December 28, 2004, at 13:09:31
The last pdoc I waited suicidaly 4 months for said "He didn't prescribe TCA's". Well isn't that convenient ?
Linkadge
Posted by jujube on December 28, 2004, at 15:03:27
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by linkadge on December 28, 2004, at 14:46:58
> The last pdoc I waited suicidaly 4 months for said "He didn't prescribe TCA's". Well isn't that convenient ?
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> LinkadgeThat's ridiculous! Are you going to be seeing a new pdoc now? If you are, hopefully it will be one that is a better prescriber and one that works to identify a med or combination of meds that will work well for the person he/she is treating rather than only using meds that he/she is comfortable with. What do you have in mind in terms of meds? Also, try to book a series of appointments after your appointment so you don't have to wait months for follow-up. If you don't need to the appointment(s), you can always cancel, but at least you will have something booked in advance if you do need to see the doc. The pdoc that I see seems averse to augmenting and prescribing more than one med with different actions at the same time. Although he did keep me on Celexa when he put me on Anafranil, which is strange since both are SRIs. When I see him again in the new year, I am going to have to be more insistent (which tends to be out of character for me) and ask for something more stimulating (either nortriptyline or Provigil to add to Celexa).
Well, I do wish you all the best upon your return to school. You obviously have the brains and ambition to do well, so try not to be too hard on yourself. Perhaps going back to school will be somewhat therapeutic for you, and will take your mind off some of your worries for a while.
Take care and be good to yourself.
Tamara
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Posted by linkadge on December 28, 2004, at 20:46:30
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ?? » linkadge, posted by jujube on December 28, 2004, at 15:03:27
I hope he will let me try lithium and a TCA (low dose) (perhaps amitryptaline, doxepine, or clomipramine)
Linkadge
Posted by jujube on December 28, 2004, at 20:55:13
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by linkadge on December 28, 2004, at 20:46:30
I thought you had been having cognition problems with the lithium? Are you not considering nortriptyline as a possible TCA?
I hope your pdoc lets you try your options too. Try to be firm, and put forward all the compelling and valid arguments you have for the options you have identified.
Good luck. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Tamara
> I hope he will let me try lithium and a TCA (low dose) (perhaps amitryptaline, doxepine, or clomipramine)
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Posted by linkadge on December 29, 2004, at 10:48:17
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ?? » linkadge, posted by jujube on December 28, 2004, at 20:55:13
I want to keep the lithium as low as possable.
Linkadge
Posted by dancingstar on December 31, 2004, at 17:26:32
In reply to Re: anyone tried effexor and depakote ??, posted by linkadge on December 29, 2004, at 10:48:17
Sorry Link, that you are having such a tough time. Things are so screwed up. I am so angry with these drug companies for hurting so many of us, but I do think that these drugs were supposed to be for the people that really need them, like you do. If only they could limit their greed and properly use their products.
I know a pdoc that specializes in younger people in my part of the world. He is probably good, but I don't know if that would help you at all. I hope you feel better soon. -Bebe
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